Extracting closed captioning from DVD with CCExtractor?

[ecc]

I have yet to get CCExtractor to work with a DVD. I am splitting a multi-episode DVD to two single layer discs and I want the closed captioning as subs since they don't seem to keep as CC's when I import the titles into Authoring Works. I tried VSRip and it gave me several srt files that I had to then open in word and get rid of the multipe "ÿ" it added to the beginning of every other line and then open it with Subtitle Workshop to convert from .srt to .srt since Authoring Works wouldn't open the original. Then I found while I was checking the sync that chunks of dialogue were missing throughout and the lines following those missing pieces were milliseconds out of sync.

I've tried to drag and drop the VOB files into CCExtractor and it doesn't output anything and I have no idea what the error is. The activity log only displays the version history every time I hit "Start". I tried inputting the VOB files themselves, just the IFO file, the entire VIDEO_TS folder. I've even demuxed and dropped the .m2v files inside. The guide on the program's site only uses .TS files as an example. The "Last Message" box says "This help screen was shown because there--" and the rest is cut off by the preview window.

I'm sure the program is made for people who want to convert their digital TV recordings to DVD but the description says that it is supposed to extract subs from DVD as well.

[ccguy]

CCExtractor needs the .VOBs.

Anyway, could you cut the command line you are using? (if you are using the Windows GUI you can cut it from the box at the bottom).

Regarding DVDs, CCExtractor works fine as long as they are closed captioned (NOT subtitled, they are different things).

[ecc]

C:\program files\ccextractor.0.53.windows.binaries\ccextractorwin.exe --gui_mode_reports -out=srt [+input files]

[ecc]

It's working now. This time I dragged all of the VOB files, not just the titleset ones and it's processing them.

I ripped each of the two feature length episodes seperately (using Main Movie mode) and thought that perhaps that was the cause since the two episodes are separate titles but in the same VTS but I just dragged all for the second episode into CCExtractor and it is going pretty fast. I'll have to redo the first title since I authored that one already but the DVD was pretty basic.

Sorry about the frustrated tone before.

[june8]

CCExtractor needs the .VOBs.

Anyway, could you cut the command line you are using? (if you are using the Windows GUI you can cut it from the box at the bottom).

Regarding DVDs, CCExtractor works fine as long as they are closed captioned (NOT subtitled, they are different things).

Hi
I have exactly the same problem.
what do you mean by cut the command line? I'm using Windows gui. (version 0.53). What i have cut it from the box at the bottom?

Thanks

[cfsmp3]

I have exactly the same problem.
what do you mean by cut the command line? I'm using Windows gui. (version 0.53). What i have cut it from the box at the bottom?

Yes. Also, what DVD (title) are you try to process?

ccextractor is a closed captions tool - it's not a DVD subtitles tool. If the DVD have closed captions (most TV shows do) it will work.

Generally speaking, only DVDs sold in region 1 (USA, Canada) have a chance.

[usually_quiet]

I have yet to get CCExtractor to work with a DVD. I am splitting a multi-episode DVD to two single layer discs and I want the closed captioning as subs since they don't seem to keep as CC's when I import the titles into Authoring Works .

Have you tried playing the CCs using your TV's analog CC function? That's the only reliable way to tell whether or not they are present. Unless you are re-encoding the video for some reason, TMPGEnc Authoring Works will not destroy CCs themselves, though it may interfere with your ability to play them back under some circumstances.

There are two flags in the IFO for each video title that need to be set for CCs to be displayed using the CC function offered by software video players and some stand-alone DVD players. Frequently authoring aps do not detect the presence of CCs and set the flags accordingly. IFOEdit can be used to correct the problem. Just open the IFO for each video title, check both CC flags, and save. (Each title needs to be saved separately.)

[obs]

That IFOEdit trick didn't work for me.

TMPGEnc Authoring Works 4 and DVD Author 3 removed the CCs when I tried. All I did, when testing, was author a "DVD" by extracting one video title from a DVD that had three (ie. three episodes of a show I recorded from TV to DVD Recorder). I didn't make any cuts or do anything that would require re-encoding. Then I applied the IFOEdit trick. I can now select CCs in PowerDVD 7, but there are no actual captions showing.

I don't know how DVD Author 1 could keep the CCs, but 3 and 4 cannot (haven't tried version 2).

[usually_quiet]

I used an old version of TDA in 2005, but I only used it to author. It did not affect closed captions at that time. Based on what I have been reading in the forums here, something has changed since I used it. There's another discussion on the topic here: https://forum.videohelp.com/topic367042.html which has some info on other verions that preserve closed captions.

It's possible to strip closed captions without re-encoding. Closed captions are stored in the MPEG-2 user data, which can be removed without doing any re-encoding. There's a tool called ReStream that can be used to to do that as well as correct the aspect ratio for the video (and a few other things) all without re-encoding.

[obs]

Thanks for the info.

I might try VideoReDo, but I'm kind of set in my way using TMPGEnc DVD Author, and I already have some menu templates made for the TV shows I want to archive .

To be honest, having CCs isn't really important to me, but it would be nice if they were there, just in case you can't make out the odd word that someone says.


edit// Tried VideoReDo. The interface sucks, or maybe I am just not used to it. I like on DVD Author how I can fast scan by right clicking on the thumbnails strip. Guess I will have to live without CCs.

[gambitz]

Yes I realize this is an old post. However I want to state that VideoReDO is a great APP.

When I record tv shows or movies on my Media Centre, I run it thru VideoReDO to create a DVD with CC included. The MCE create DVD doesnt include CC. Stupid M$

Another cool feature with VideoReDo is that it can automatically edit out commerical parts. This is great.

Primary reason I went with VideoReDo is for the CC support.

CCExtractor has been upated very recently. It seems simple enough to use and works really well. Any new apps out there since the last post at 2009?

[java200]

Crazy long journey. All I wanted was to watch a movie with CC on my iPad. Bought the DVD (which has cc), downloaded to my hard drive using DVD Decrypter; then used Handbrake to convert it. Got it onto the iPad -- no CC. Based on this thread I downloaded VideoReDo but now I'm really lost. Not a techie at all. Just want my CC. Can someone help by telling me what I need to do?

[usually_quiet]

Crazy long journey. All I wanted was to watch a movie with CC on my iPad. Bought the DVD (which has cc), downloaded to my hard drive using DVD Decrypter; then used Handbrake to convert it. Got it onto the iPad -- no CC. Based on this thread I downloaded VideoReDo but now I'm really lost. Not a techie at all. Just want my CC. Can someone help by telling me what I need to do?

Closed captions from DVD MPEG-2 streams are carried in the GOP user data. When video is encoded to a different video format or simply re-encoded to the same format, the closed caption data isn't preserved. As far as I know H.264 doesn't really have a standard method for carrying CCs in the user data as exists for DVD MPEG-2. However, it should be possible to create a .mpg file containing the movie from your ripped DVD files with VOB2MPG, then extract CCs from the .mpg files as an .srt files using CCExtractor GUI. After that, you will need to convert the .srt to a soft subtitle format that the iPad can read (although I don't know what Windows tool to use for that) or use Handbrake to encode them into the video as hard subtitles, which are a permanent part of the picture.

[Edit]I forgot something. .srt subtitles need to be converted into bitmap form (VOBSUB) or SSA subtitles before Handbrake can add them as hard subtitles.

Here's a guide for adding soft subtitles for the iPad using Handbrake. http://techtouche.com/how-to-add-soft-coded-subtitles-on-ipad-iphone-with-handbrake/

[cal_tony]

VidCoder will handle subtitle quite well when converting DVDs to H264 MKVs. It will convert a CC to srt and include it. It can insert an external srt and can also include the DVD idx/sub in the new mkv.

VidCoder lists just below SOURCE:

Video:

Audio:

Subtitles: [with an Edit box] hit the edit and multiple options appear.

Tony

[java200]

Thanks! Wish me luck....

[java200]

OK, I got lost with ccextractor but had better luck with VidCoder. One movie came out great, with CC. The others did not. I was trying to convert the subtitles from Downton Abbey, PBS original UK edition, ntsc, English SDH subtitles. The video and sound are great but no CC, no subtitles. Any suggestions, please?

[cal_tony]

Some of my DVDs that have CCs do not show up as having them so I usually run on of the Vobs thru CCExtractorGUI just to make sure theyr'e there. If they're part of the vobs I might runt all the vobs thru CCExtractorGUI and create a srt and than look at it to make sure it looks good.

Once I have the srt I can use VidCoder to include the CC and Ill also keep the srt as an external srt. All my players will accept srts if they have the same name as the video.

Tony

[usually_quiet]

OK, I got lost with ccextractor but had better luck with VidCoder. One movie came out great, with CC. The others did not. I was trying to convert the subtitles from Downton Abbey, PBS original UK edition, ntsc, English SDH subtitles. The video and sound are great but no CC, no subtitles. Any suggestions, please?

The US versions of TV shows are much more likely to contain closed captions, since N. American style closed captions are not used for broadcast TV in most other parts of the world..

Regular DVD subtitles are in .sup (subpicture) format. It is possible to convert a .sup file to vobsub format via SubtitleCreator and add as hard subtitles, but some quality is lost in the process.

.srt subtitles can sometimes be obtained from the Internet. Subscene is one source I have seen others recommend.