MPEG Stream Clip and Quicktime Alternate

[alhenderson]

Evening All,

Last week, I installed the Quicktime Alternate 1.81 in order to get the MPEG 2 playback functionality in MPEG Stream Clip. This worked fine and all was well. Yesterday I ran up iTunes and it complained that my quicktime was out of date, so I upgraded to version 2.8.0 of the alternate quicktime - something the MPEG Stream Clip help file says should be OK. Now, when I load a file into MPEG Stream Clip, it tells me that my MPEG2 Playback component needs to be updated.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks,
Al.

[poisondeathray]

I use QTPro, but I think Mpeg Streamclip requires that exact version 1.81

from the authors website:
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-win.html

THE LATEST VERSION OF QUICKTIME ALTERNATIVE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH MPEG STREAMCLIP; PLEASE DOWNLOAD QUICKTIME ALTERNATIVE 1.81 USING THE ABOVE LINK.

[alhenderson]

I use QTPro, but I think Mpeg Streamclip requires that exact version 1.81

from the authors website:
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-win.html

THE LATEST VERSION OF QUICKTIME ALTERNATIVE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH MPEG STREAMCLIP; PLEASE DOWNLOAD QUICKTIME ALTERNATIVE 1.81 USING THE ABOVE LINK.

Interesting, they seem to be in two minds about this - the help file that came with MPEG Stream Clip says:

"If necessary for iTunes, you can install the latest version of QuickTime Alternative, but only after you installed QuickTime Alternative 1.81."

Which is what I did.. I may well bite the bullet and install Quicktime Pro if that's what it needs, not a massive amount of money...

[Soopafresh]

It's more than just buying Quicktime pro, I believe it's also the purchase of the MPEG2 plugin for quicktime.


http://www.apple.com/quicktime/mpeg2/

[poisondeathray]

^Soopa is correct, I just tested it out (QTPro + Mpegstreamclip) and it would not play back a regular MPEG2 file

I use other software for MPEG2 editing

[alhenderson]

^Soopa is correct, I just tested it out (QTPro + Mpegstreamclip) and it would not play back a regular MPEG2 file

I use other software for MPEG2 editing

Aha, so there are two costs, $30 for QTPro and $19.99 for the MPEG2 playback, and it doesn't work with MPEG Stream Clip, anyway. Great. What other software do you use?

Al.

[poisondeathray]

Hi for MPEG2 editing, I usually use videoredo. It is frame accurate and only re-encodes around the cutsite if not on a keyframe. Free alternatives include mpg2cut2 , and avidemux, but it only cuts on keyframes.

For playback, I usually use KMplayer or MPC. MPC is a directshow player so you need to have a codec/spitter installed for MPEG2. KMplayer includes everything including decoding for dozens of different formats

I use QTPro for .mov files, but usually only for cutting. I don't have the MPEG2 plugin for it.

[alhenderson]

Hi for MPEG2 editing, I usually use videoredo. It is frame accurate and only re-encodes around the cutsite if not on a keyframe. Free alternatives include mpg2cut2 , and avidemux, but it only cuts on keyframes.

For playback, I usually use KMplayer or MPC. MPC is a directshow player so you need to have a codec/spitter installed for MPEG2. KMplayer includes everything including decoding for dozens of different formats

I use QTPro for .mov files, but usually only for cutting. I don't have the MPEG2 plugin for it.

Looks like videoredo might be the way forward for me. Don't mind paying a small amount if it does what I want and this looks like it will.

Thanks,
Al.

[usually_quiet]

Cuttermaran is another good free MPEG-2 editor. It can be used for frame acurate cuts as well, and only re-encodes a few frames around he cuts. Its main drawback for most is that it needs demultiplexed audio and video files, although that's not really a drawback for me because the authoring programs I use either require or work best with those.

[alhenderson]

Had a play with the free trial version of VideoRedo last night and it looks pretty good. Loaded my .ts files from the PVR, trimmed them and burnt them all to DVD pretty quickly and easily.

Thanks for the tips!

Al.

[rumplestiltskin]

There is no need to install QT Pro; that has nothing to do with the MPEG2 codec Apple sells (which is what you do want if you decide not to use QT Alternative).

[alhenderson]

There is no need to install QT Pro; that has nothing to do with the MPEG2 codec Apple sells (which is what you do want if you decide not to use QT Alternative).

So the MPEG 2 codec from Apple ($19.99) does not require me to have QT Pro? Probably not relevant since someone further up seemed to suggest that MPEG Stream Clip didn't work with it. Or maybe that was QT Pro..

Al.

[lordsmurf]

Womble MPEG-VCR or Womble MPEG Video Wizard.

[rumplestiltskin]

There is no need to install QT Pro; that has nothing to do with the MPEG2 codec Apple sells (which is what you do want if you decide not to use QT Alternative).

So the MPEG 2 codec from Apple ($19.99) does not require me to have QT Pro? Probably not relevant since someone further up seemed to suggest that MPEG Stream Clip didn't work with it. Or maybe that was QT Pro..

Al.

MPEG Streamclip works fine with Apple's QT + Apple's MPEG2 codec. I can't comment on whether QT Alternative + Apple's MPEG2 codec work properly together (in any app).

[DjDiabolik]

Interesting... i'm also begin to use Mpeg SteamClip 1.2.1 beta but i need also to install QuickTime Alternative 1.8.1 !!
The latest version of QuickTime Lite it's 4.1.0 but i can upgrade/Install it if it's installed QuickTime Alternative...............

I need to manage and cut some Mpeg2 not on keyframe and i try this programs and it's good...... but how i can use if i want to uninstall quicktime alternative ?

I have look to VideoRedo.. but it's a freeware.... and whit trial i don't thinks i can cut the mpeg2 not in keyframe (like AviDemux insted... it's not permitted).... when you can suggest to me ?

*EDIT*
I can add some information...... after i have cut a parts for a mpeg2... i have obtained this:

General
Complete name : D:\Prova.mpg
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1.38 GiB
Duration : 20mn 40s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 9 570 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Format settings, picture st : Frame
Duration : 20mn 40s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 9 124 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.880
Time code of first frame : 00:00:04:08
Time code source : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed : Open
Stream size : 1.32 GiB (95%)
Color primaries : BT.601 PAL
Transfer characteristics : BT.470 System B, BT.470 System G
Matrix coefficients : BT.601

Audio
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 20mn 40s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -16ms
Stream size : 37.8 MiB (3%)

I have tryed to load this on Xvid4psp and the indexing stay blocked at 0%!!! Because ?!?!

*EDIT 2*
I have also tryed to Indexing using MeGUI....... same result.. appears file it's corrupted or similar..... help me...

*EDIT 3*
I thinks this Mpeg2 it's definelly corrupted..... i also tryed to re-encode as copy with avidemux to obtain a newest mpeg file.
After that i have loading this apparently fixed mpeg2 on Xvid4psp but the preview it's completely out-of-sync audio/video!

I need another software to cut a file mpeg2 not in keyframes.......... and if mpeg stream clip it's ok i have to learn to use for not obtain corrupted file.

[smrpix]

Videoredo does not need to cut on keyframes. It's smart-renderer.

[usually_quiet]

If you don't want to install QuickTime Alternative 1.8.1, you can't use MPEG Stream Clip's Windows version.

Cuttermaran is free, can cut MPEG-2 video on any frame, and uses smart encoding, but requires demultiplexed audio and video as input. If you don't like that idea, try MPEG-VCR. It is not free, but it is inexpensive ($19). Like VideoReDo, it can cut MPEG-2 video on any frame, and use smart encoding.


... and next time don't post questions in an old, long dead thread. Create a new thread.

[DjDiabolik]

Lol............ thanks boy but i'm found and installed () VideoRedo v5.1.1.719 and now i'm happy!

I'm cutting my BIG mpeg2 to a little parts and after saving (smart re-encoding in 30 seconds) i have obtain a file correctly indexing and usable whit XVID4PSP!!

Now i'm need only to converts this mpeg2 to xvid.. or x264 and i already can use MeGUI (i thinks the better software for x264 encoder) and Xvid4psp (for xvid encoder).


Little OT:
On Other board sometime other users as suggert to me to use the search function of board before to open newest thread
I have found this thread by google....... sorry for trouble

[usually_quiet]

Little OT:
On Other board sometime other users as suggert to me to use the search function of board before to open newest thread
I have found this thread by google....... sorry for trouble

In this forum "Use the forum search function before creating new thread" means you should try to find out if the same question was already answered satisfactorily in the past. That is to prevent the same question from being posted many, many times. It does not mean members should post questions in old threads about a similar topic.

[DjDiabolik]

Little OT:
On Other board sometime other users as suggert to me to use the search function of board before to open newest thread
I have found this thread by google....... sorry for trouble

In this forum "Use the forum search function before creating new thread" means you should try to find out if the same question was already answered satisfactorily in the past. That is to prevent the same question from being posted many, many times. It does not mean members should post questions in old threads about a similar topic.

You right... but my it's not simply similar..... i have the same problems and the answers it's here:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/301794-MPEG-Stream-Clip-and-Quicktime-Alternate?p=1...=1#post1846964

The thread appears go OT when the discussion turn from mpeg stream clip to cut a mpeg not in keyframe and i have contininues to goes OT

[usually_quiet]

Little OT:
On Other board sometime other users as suggert to me to use the search function of board before to open newest thread
I have found this thread by google....... sorry for trouble

In this forum "Use the forum search function before creating new thread" means you should try to find out if the same question was already answered satisfactorily in the past. That is to prevent the same question from being posted many, many times. It does not mean members should post questions in old threads about a similar topic.

You right... but my it's not simply similar..... i have the same problems and the answers it's here:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/301794-MPEG-Stream-Clip-and-Quicktime-Alternate?p=1...=1#post1846964

The thread appears go OT when the discussion turn from mpeg stream clip to cut a mpeg not in keyframe and i have contininues to goes OT

Only an idiot would post the same questions again in a thread where the questions were already answered satisfactorily in replies given in 2009, so apparently you are an idiot.

[DjDiabolik]

Little OT:
On Other board sometime other users as suggert to me to use the search function of board before to open newest thread
I have found this thread by google....... sorry for trouble

In this forum "Use the forum search function before creating new thread" means you should try to find out if the same question was already answered satisfactorily in the past. That is to prevent the same question from being posted many, many times. It does not mean members should post questions in old threads about a similar topic.

You right... but my it's not simply similar..... i have the same problems and the answers it's here:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/301794-MPEG-Stream-Clip-and-Quicktime-Alternate?p=1...=1#post1846964

The thread appears go OT when the discussion turn from mpeg stream clip to cut a mpeg not in keyframe and i have contininues to goes OT

Only an idiot would post the same questions again in a thread where the questions were already answered satisfactorily in replies given in 2009, so apparently you are an idiot.

Oh.... really ?
only a fool can't read and understand what one writes or try to explain to other people..............

Is not so hard to understand this my situation:
I'm stay to found some solution on google.... i have begin to use Mpeg Stream Clip after i have installed the quicktime alternate and on internet i have read info about it's capable to cut a mpeg2 file not in keyframe and i have tryed myself.
After first attempt i have obtain a mpeg2 inusable because i thinks it's corrupted...... after that i don't know i commits some errors when i use Mpeg Stream Clip or similar things and i have edited my post (obviously in different timing) adding some information about my various failed attempts.

Continue to read information over internet, like here, i have found confirmation mpeg stream clip can't cut/edit a mpeg2 not in keyframe and at this point i abandoned this and founded VideoReDo over internet for resolve my all problems and make unnecessary all previously test.

But it's not a big problems man......... i thinks simply need to make peace with your brain and take a cup of chamomile..... bye bye.