Ridata DVD-r 8x (GO5) Injet HubPrint COPYFLY FAILS

[org74]

Howdy,

I have been Using RIDATA DVD-R 8x (RED Plastic papper SPINDLE) for almost 2 years. They are discontinue now and got replaced by a new White/Pink Package

For a few month I used the new package and had 0 problem lately since November 2008 75% of them wont work has a master DVD to be used has "COPY ON THE FLY" regardless of the Software or burning or Computer

Pathology : Read error around 57% of process reader wont read the DVD .. like if they had a weak spot.. and cant be read

I asked other people around and we realize that we all have the same issue... some use duplicators other computer like me. You can burn the disc 1 time but u cant use it to do a copy on the fly ..( We don't buy from same supplier )

IRONIES. IF you use the RIDATA DVD-R 8x SILVER (G05) for master DVD, Copy on the fly work like a CHARM...

Was looking on the web for Similar story nothing comes up ! Any Clue .. Web is not Speaking spent hours searching ???

RIDATA INJET HUB PRINTABLE come in 2 flavor : 16x ( f1 ) 8x ( g05 )

Hardware:
Pionners Writers 108 109 110 112
with Lg readers
and LG Writers

[hech54]

Printables suck.
Ritek/Ridata used to be good....now they suck too.

[org74]

Thankyou for your comments

And i am aware they changed ... But i need a constructive suggestion.

I wanna know if other people have the same problem. I got couple of those DVD's cant trow them away


thankyou

[jman98]

hech54 has strong opinions about everything. The response you got is somewhat typical. Given his hair trigger sensitivity, I'm sure that the previous statements will be interpreted by him as some kind of egregious insult and he'll feel compelled to attack me in a follow up message. Whatever.

If you want printable discs, either get Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden's Watershield discs. You get good quality printable surfaces and the high quality data side of Verbatim or TY.

Ridata may use different manufacturers for different discs. This is quite common. Some of their discs may be slightly higher quality than others and that's probably what you are seeing here, but I would not use the term "good quality" to refer to any of their current discs. At one time they apparently used some of the best manufacturers to make their media. Not any more.

[stiltman]

Printables suck.
Ritek/Ridata used to be good....now they suck too.

Disagree with the first
Agree with the second

I've been using TY hub printables for a long time now and they are just fine. I use Verbatim DL printables and they are perfect too.

My sharpie penmanship sucks, so I only use printables for stuff someone else might see/try to read

[Noahtuck]

Thankyou for your comments

And i am aware they changed ... But i need a constructive suggestion.

If you are aware, then you should have or should buy better media

Nothing wrong with Printable media as stiltman stated, as long as it's GOOD media, the same as with non printable media.

"COPY ON THE FLY"

Just asking for trouble no matter how you look at it.
Whats your hurry, take a few minutes, make an ISO on your HDD and then burn away!!
It's not like it takes hours!!!
Unless you have some old burner that only burns at 1X

5 years, 2 post's and obviously not much reading 8)

[lordsmurf]

You can't really copy on the fly faster than 4x. It fails too often. Stable copying is best done at 4x, and copying 4x takes 15 minutes.

I've started to duplicate by setting Prassi ONES and RecordNow to pass to a temp file. I still use two drives for this. It creates a temp image on the hard drive (sort of like an ISO, I would imagine) on the first drive, then burn the new disc on the second drive, and it now takes about 10-12 minutes to copy a disc. Go figure. Welcome to the age of stable 12x burning, and reliably fast DVD-burners as readers. I get less coasters AND now I save time.

Stop using Ridata media. See www.nomorecoasters.com -- use Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim/Mitsubishi.

[hech54]

hech54 has strong opinions about everything. The response you got is somewhat typical. Given his hair trigger sensitivity, I'm sure that the previous statements will be interpreted by him as some kind of egregious insult and he'll feel compelled to attack me in a follow up message.

Yes but I mainly insult YOU....and only when you repeat wrong information
over and over and over again.

Ridata .....At one time they apparently used some of the best manufacturers to make their media. Not any more.

Eloquent speech...but in the end....no different from my short and sweet response:
Ritek/Ridata used to be good....now they suck too.

[lordsmurf]

Ritek media was never very good, that's such a myth. RITEKG01 was mediocre quality, as is G04 and G05 and all the others. For a very short time, G03 gave better-than-average results, but it still was a far cry from TY or MCC quality. I don't even recall the "RiData" brand existing prior to G04 DVD-R and poor-performing RICOH DVD+R.

These discs all have problems being written and read back. So much so that it has led to yet another myth, the one where a boogeyman sneaks into your DVD cabinet and makes data disappear overnight.

It's good for duplication, but it's unreliable for archival masters.

[stiltman]

Some of the best media I used *at the time* was Ritek orange top landscape. I even still have a few left from a 50pk

[hech54]

Some of the best media I used *at the time* was Ritek orange top landscape. I even still have a few left from a 50pk

I've never had the orange ones but my old Ritek 2.4x silver tops are still going strong
and never had a read error.....ever....and I created them in a Philips DVDR-985 recorder.
Granted some of them had RICOHJPN-R00-01 media ID's on them too...but they
all had Ritek packaging.

[lordsmurf]

The landscape discs were actually overprints. There was no consistency on whether the overprinted media were rejected from the primary line under the Ridata name, or just excess. Many of them were branded as Arita, or simply passed off with no name at all "RITEK" given as media ID, and nothing else.

Things were muddy back then.

The orange-topped discs ranged from best to worst, depending on who you talked to. I still find bad Ritek discs in my collection, discs that I did not carefully test or inspect at the time. Your average idiot would claim his data disappeared.

This past week I tossed two bad orange-top Ritek discs, marginal burn quality. I was able to extract 99.99% of the information off using ISO Puzzle with 10 hours of retries (with cool down) in a Pioneer 111 drive. I'm not worried about the inevitable blip of artifacts from the bad bits of data. It's only 0.01%

[archaeo]

Printables suck.

What a ridiculous statement. :P

[lordsmurf]

Printables suck.

Are those like Lunchables?

[budz]

Some of the best media I used *at the time* was Ritek orange top landscape. I even still have a few left from a 50pk

I've used those ritek's when I first began burning dvd media....Boy how time flies by!
Those riteks still are in good shape and is able to play back without any problems. Even ripping them is no probs.

[FulciLives]

When I first started burning I bought either Maxell (made in Japan) or Fuji (Taiyo Yuden) which I bought in 10 packs in full CD jewel cases at $34.99 + sales tax or roughly $3.50 each.

My how times fly LOL

I remember there was a while there where some were saying that Prodisc (I think that was the brand) was working great but I bought a batch (as they were cheap at the time) and my NEC ND-1300A burner did not like them at all. I had to keep the size down to about 4.20GB and even then I would sometimes get read errors when I tested them (always at the end or the area near the outer edge).

After that debacle I simply stayed with Maxell (while they were still good) and Taiyo Yuden. I then did Verbatim for a while but now I only do Taiyo Yuden yet again. Never failed me yet!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[hech54]

Printables suck.

What a ridiculous statement. :P

Not when you put it in the context of....say....
some little jerk insisting on using printables in order
to fool an unsuspecting person into thinking the disc
is genuine and not a home-made disc.

How soon people forget the times when people also
came here asking for blank DVD media with no color in the dye.

[archaeo]

Not when you put it in the context of....say....
some little jerk insisting on using printables in order
to fool an unsuspecting person into thinking the disc
is genuine and not a home-made disc.

How soon people forget the times when people also
came here asking for blank DVD media with no color in the dye.

There you go again. :P This time you imply that everyone who uses printable media is trying to pass off copies of DVD's to unsuspecting people. You try to bolster your own personal bias against printable media by using piracy as a reason. So explain how piracy has anything to do with the quality of a printable disc versus that of a non printable disc?? Show us the proof of your strongly held opinions (with evidence) that printables are of lesser quality than non-printables - Please?
I promise I'll change my own opinion if you prove me wrong.
Until then, do a little research.

[lordsmurf]

hech does have a point, there is a measurable number of folks who do this, especially on auction sites.

[gadgetguy]

@archeao - http://grammartips.homestead.com/imply.html

[archaeo]

hech does have a point, there is a measurable number of folks who do this, especially on auction sites.

Of course, that's an obvious truth - But what does that have to do with his point that "printables suck?"
I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I inferred from that statement that he meant their quality sucked.

@gadgetguy: edited. thank you for clarification.

[hech54]

Oh oh....The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[archaeo]

[archaeo]

methinks.

That's the problem, you don't think, you just blabber.