Strange problem between AVI(mpeg) file and DVD based on AVI(mpeg) file

[1234567]

Strange problem between AVI file and DVD based on AVI file

Hi to everyone. I and facing a strange problem with AVI file and DVD based on the same AVI file. If I play the AVI file on the PC, using any kind of media player (Real player, Windows media player, Win amp etc), the picture of the AVI file will be fine. But, if I will make a DVD (using ant DVD creator software) based on the same AVI file, when I will play the DVD in DVD player connected with TV, the picture will have strange blurry horizontal line that will make the movie impossible to be watched.

Can somebody help me? If any way to repair this strange thing? Thanks in advance.

[hech54]

Sounds like a PAL/NTSC issue to me.....especially if you downloaded the .avi file.

[1234567]

Sounds like a PAL/NTSC issue to me.....especially if you downloaded the .avi file.

No. There is the pichture, but is not clear. In the same time, the audio is perfect.

[filmboss80]

I would not be so quick to rule out what hech54 said. PC-based video playback software can adjust to different video standards, codecs, frame rates, etc., but things are pretty fixed when it comes to types of video that can play on a standalone, set-top DVD player. And a PAL image can partially pop up in an NTSC player while the audio can play fine.

Open your source avi file in GSpot (free in the Tools section) and see what sort of video file you're dealing with. Unless there is more info, none of us can help you.

[hech54]

I've seen a wide array of different results in my long history of
PAL material in America. Everything from a perfect picture(but
black and white) to a completely unrecognizable color picture...all
with perfect audio. I even saw a "rolling color picture" once....but
the "roll" was from side to side.

[1234567]

I would not be so quick to rule out what hech54 said. PC-based video playback software can adjust to different video standards, codecs, frame rates, etc., but things are pretty fixed when it comes to types of video that can play on a standalone, set-top DVD player. And a PAL image can partially pop up in an NTSC player while the audio can play fine.

Open your source avi file in GSpot (free in the Tools section) and see what sort of video file you're dealing with. Unless there is more info, none of us can help you.

First of all my friend thanks for your suggestions.
Secondly I have to tell you that my DVD player is worldwide, that can play any kind of DVD format. So in this case, I have the picture but the picture is having blurry lines, making hard to see the movie. Again, I have the picture.

By the way, I have no experience using Gspot. In what these software can help me? Thanks

p.s. Is there any chance to repair the AVI file before making a DVD, based on the same AVI file?

[guns1inger]

Software like g-spot can tell you what the format of the video is, amongst other things.

Also, there are two parts to your display - the player, and the TV. The player may be multi-format, but the TV may not be. Or the DVD player might be set to convert formats for output, which can also reduce quality.

[1234567]

Or the DVD player might be set to convert formats for output, which can also reduce quality.

Is there any kind of modification in order to get the best picture? Thanks

[guns1inger]

Have the player output the same format as the video, instead of converting. You can only do this is a) the player is capable, and b) the TV can handle it.

[1234567]

For me is more important how to do this thing, using g-spot software. I do not know how to perform changes using g-spot. Thanks

[darkknight145]

how about posting a screen grab so we can see exactly what the problem is, a grab from the original AVI and one from the same spot from the DVD. A picture is worth a thousand words

[guns1inger]

You can't change anything with g-spot. All it will do it confirm what formats we are dealing with. Once we know that we can help you fix the problem.

Also, a short clip from the converted file, showing the issue, would help. If you keep it under a few MBs you can post it here.

[hech54]

Secondly I have to tell you that my DVD player is worldwide, that can play any kind of DVD format.

Please explain "worldwide". Have you played PAL format discs in this machine(and out to the same television) before?

[1234567]

Secondly I have to tell you that my DVD player is worldwide, that can play any kind of DVD format.

Please explain "worldwide". Have you played PAL format discs in this machine(and out to the same television) before?

Yeah, my DVd player can play anykind od DVDs. So I have the pichture but not clear.

[hech54]

Goodbye.

[1234567]

You can't change anything with g-spot. All it will do it confirm what formats we are dealing with. Once we know that we can help you fix the problem.

Also, a short clip from the converted file, showing the issue, would help. If you keep it under a few MBs you can post it here.

From the gspot I got this information about the movie(is not AVi, but mpeg)

Sys Bitrate: 5954 kb/s VBR
MPEG-2 Program Stream << { 1 vid, 1 aud }
MPEG-1 Layer 2
0xc0:48000Hz 224 kb/s tot , Stereo
codec MPEG2
Len 46:56.640
Frms 70,416
Qf 0.289
pic/s 25.000
frm/s 25.000
fileds/s 50.000
pic 720 x 576
sec ex 720 x 576
sar 1.250 (5:4)
par 1.067 (16:15)
dar 1.333 (4:3)

[manono]

I guess your player can't handle PAL DVDs very well. Next time make it into an NTSC DVD. Does this thing play OK using a software DVD player on your computer?

[1234567]

I guess your player can't handle PAL DVDs very well. Next time make it into an NTSC DVD. Does this thing play OK using a software DVD player on your computer?

No. The DVd made, based on this mpeg file, is NTSC.
If I will play this DVd on my PC, everything is ok.

[stiltman]

frm/s 25.000
fileds/s 50.000
pic 720 x 576
sec ex 720 x 576
sar 1.250 (5:4)
par 1.067 (16:15)
dar 1.333 (4:3)

Looks like PAL to me. NTSC would be 720x480 @ 30fps

[guns1inger]

No, according to g-spot, it is PAL. The resolution and framerates are both PAL.

[1234567]

No, according to g-spot, it is PAL. The resolution and framerates are both PAL.

Ok, but I can repair this mpeg file? Is there any chance? Thanks

[guns1inger]

Repair what ?

Post a short clip so we can the problem

[1234567]

Repair what ?

Post a short clip so we can the problem

I do not know how to do that...

[guns1inger]

OK, start with some stills

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic239865.html
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic271697.html

[1234567]

I tried something else. I put the mpeg movie, like a data copy in one empty CD. When I tried the CD based on mpeg file, the quality of picture is much better compared with DVD based on this mpeg file. But, in the bottom part of the screen, there is a black stripe, where the picture is missing at all. The strip is abot 15 % of wideness. Why?

[jagabo]

When are you going to post GSpot information about the DVD VOB/MPG files? And how about posting what DVD player you're using?

[1234567]

When are you going to post GSpot information about the DVD VOB/MPG files? And how about posting what DVD player you're using?

Sys Bitrate: 5954 kb/s VBR
MPEG-2 Program Stream << { 1 vid, 1 aud }
MPEG-1 Layer 2
0xc0:48000Hz 224 kb/s tot , Stereo
codec MPEG2
Len 46:56.640
Frms 70,416
Qf 0.289
pic/s 25.000
frm/s 25.000
fileds/s 50.000
pic 720 x 576
sec ex 720 x 576
sar 1.250 (5:4)
par 1.067 (16:15)
dar 1.333 (4:3)

p.s. I am using Philips Dvd player

[jagabo]

Your VOB file is definitely PAL. Make sure your DVD players is set up to convert PAL to NTSC for output. For Philips players this is under TV Type or TV Standard and you usually have three choices: Multi (or Auto), NTSC and PAL. If it is set to Multi the player will output NTSC when playing NTSC discs and PAL when playing PAL discs. Most USA TVs will not display PAL signals properly.

Another possible problem is the audio. It's MP2, not AC3 or LPCM. MP2 audio support is not mandatory in USA DVD players. Most do support it though. They symptom you describe doesn't sound like lack of MP2 support.

[1234567]

Your VOB file is definitely PAL. Make sure your DVD players is set up to convert PAL to NTSC for output. For Philips players this is under TV Type or TV Standard and you usually have three choices: Multi (or Auto), NTSC and PAL. If it is set to Multi the player will output NTSC when playing NTSC discs and PAL when playing PAL discs. Most USA TVs will not display PAL signals properly.

Another possible problem is the audio. It's MP2, not AC3 or LPCM. MP2 audio support is not mandatory in USA DVD players. Most do support it though. They symptom you describe doesn't sound like lack of MP2 support.

Yhe audio is working fine. The problem consists on video. There is a pichture, but not clear enough, if a make DVD from this mpeg file. Maube mpeg file has errors. How to fix the mpeg dile?

[filmboss80]

Wow. You don't get it, even though it has been explained to you multiple times, starting with the very first response from hech54. You are in the US, an NTSC country, presumably with an NTSC TV set. Your mpeg file is PAL (European system). Even if your DVD player can be adjusted to play PAL, your TV set cannot process a PAL signal. The MPEG file has no errors; it is an incompatible video standard. It is watchable on your computer, but not on your TV. Your best solution is to buy an NTSC DVD of the movie you want to watch. If you do that, then your problem will be solved, and you won't go around in endless circles in this forum.