OK, you're doing fine, but you need to do one more thing. DV-AVI files are indeed a bit bulky.Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
Open the video that you saved in WMM back up in VirtualDub. Follow the VirtualDub settings that I wrote above and save it. You don't need to mess with trying to cut the video. However, I would recommend messing with the quantizer settings a bit and figure out what works good for you. A setting of 1 should get you a smaller file than the DV-AVI file, but you might want to make it 2 or 3 or even higher (for less quality, smaller filesize) to figure out what you like.
Saving the video in .avi format using the Xvid codec in VirtualDub should reduce the filesize.
And yeah, that link is to something on your hard drive.
The "720 x 480" has very little to do with blurriness. That's simply the size of the video, pixels wide by pixels high. What really matters is the bitrate of the video. And nearly all of the .wmv settings in WMM absolutely destroy videos because their bitrate settings are what I consider to be sub-par.Can u tell me why it's still ultra blurry when I even use a 720x480 output in WMM?!?!?!
.........Plz help me guys I'm waiting for posts, I haven't gotten any in like 12 hours... Plz help me I've been patient enough!
Hey, can't be around all the time. I was out with some friends for the lasts several hours....
Actually, I might give this a try. From the way you described it, it sounds like it would suit my needs well.Originally Posted by loster
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Originally Posted by sincostan45
About the 720x480 thing: Oh I see. Yea .wmv does suck huh? But could I still use WMV7/WMV8 codecs in SUPER? They've always worked well for me, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to preserve the quality of my video...
About the me wanting more posts: Sorry. I just thought everyone abandoned me (which is why I created similar posts and got my warnings cuz no one would reply to my orginal thread anymore.) -
Well I uploaded the file with WMV8 codec and 5,280 bitrate. It still hasn't changed the quality even tho the bitrate is high. Is it because I'm using the trashy WMV8 codec?
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Originally Posted by sincostan45
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re-read the thread. i told you before to upload 720x480p h264 .mp4s with aac audio at a bitrate around 4-5 mbps. if you don't have an h264 encoder use x264 encoder and megui or use it with super.
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Originally Posted by minidv2dvd
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read what youtube wants for standard vids.
http://www.youtube.com/handbook_popup_produce_upload?pcont=bestformats
for HQ and HD links i gave you the specs.
everytime you re-encode your vids get a bit worse. go from .mov to .mp4 without any other steps for the best results. -
Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
or, who knows?, maybe your ISP is "traffic-shaping" the uploads to YouTube
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Originally Posted by minidv2dvd
Also if I upload my raw .mov/.mp4/H.264/AVC & AAC video to YouTube, the quality isn't any different from a .wmv or any other format or bitrate. Any format or bitrate change from the .mov file does not yield any results. They still all look extremely blurry and pixelated on YouTube. Here's wat a raw .mov/.mp4 looks like on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38qsKxPflkg
My video meets all the requirements and specs YouTube wants, so why is it still poor quality?
If I didn't need to edit my .mov/.mp4 files with WMM I would have never even JOINED these forums. -
Here's the DV~AVI one. It's still blurry even tho it's compressed with VirtualDub and XviD...
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Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
I've been saving videos using the Xvid codec with VirtuaDub and uploading them to YouTube without any problems for the LAST TWO YEARS. In fact, I posted a video on YouTube I compressed in Xvid about a week ago.
Something else is wrong with this and the "unknown error". I tell you what, download Gspot and drag and drop the video into it that failed to post on YouTube. Then take a screenshot of Gspot after it has finished analyzing the file and post it here. I know you know how to do this because you already posted a screenshot in this thread earlier. For example, here's the info on the Xvid file I uploaded to YouTube last week:
(The filesize is a bit big for 10 minute video, but that's just the way I do things. Compression artifacts are not allowed in my videos!)
After you post your info, I will have a better idea how exactly you compressed your video and then I can be more specific when telling you what to do.
Now then, there's been a lot of posts since I went to bed last night...
It still hasn't changed the quality even tho the bitrate is high. Is it because I'm using the trashy WMV8 codec?
re-read the thread. i told you before to upload 720x480p h264 .mp4s with aac audio at a bitrate around 4-5 mbps. if you don't have an h264 encoder use x264 encoder and megui or use it with super.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uWUmBUklNE
What I think this guy is trying to say is that after you save your DV-AVI file in WMM, use Super or one of those programs and convert it to the format he described.
Or you can install the codec for x264 and use it VirtualDub as well. It's what I do, though I'm still tinkering with the settings until I get more familiar with it.
my .mov > .avi > WMM > DV~AVI > DV~AVI to VirtualDub > XviD video.
Originally Posted by minidv2dvd
I was a little surprised by your chain of conversions, but after reading what you wrote earlier, I see that I misunderstood you.
First of all, in your first conversion, try to convert .mov to Divx at a high bitrate with Super. Then try to import the file into WMM and see what happens. If it works, then SKIP the conversion to WMM. But if it still acts retarded, then I would try that avsFilmCutter program that guy recommended earlier. I haven't used it myself, so I couldn't tell you what it does exactly.
Also, one more thing. If you're going to be converting the video multiple times, you need to watch the resulting video after each step. At the point where it looks like crap, THAT is the step you need to do something with.
Also if I upload my raw .mov/.mp4/H.264/AVC & AAC video to YouTube, the quality is much worse than WMM's .wmv output of that file.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uWUmBUklNE
...actually took some time for the high-quality option to appear. It looks like crap at the normal setting. But if you watch it in high-quality, it's not too bad.
I encoded this video with x264. I would recommend this or Xvid.
Anyway, you've got a lot to work through. The people on this board and myself have told you various ways of doing things, so just try everything everybody posted and figure out what works best for you.
By the way, don't sweat YouTube too much. It is possible to get good, clean video out of it and they are starting to grow out of their lackluster video standards, but they still don't have much flexibility for the end result of their videos. We all have our YouTube crosses to bear. I'm trying to figure out how to get 60fps out of them.... -
Sorry, I was still typing the big post above when you were posting this...
Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
There is very little wrong with this video! Have you tried watching it in high quality?
The reason I say "very little" is because I still see some compression artifacts in the high-quality, but it sure beats the crap that a majority of YouTube users upload.
But yeah, when you're talking about bluriness, were you talking about the regular or high-quality version?
EDIT: Actually, I was watching it without any sound. I started watching it again with sound and personally, I would be more concerned about it than video quality.
It sounds like it's overpeaked. If it's possible to adjust the input volume on your camera, or the output volume on your television, I would turn it down a little bit. -
Originally Posted by sincostan45
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Originally Posted by sincostan45
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Sincostan, watch this video in NOrMAL QUALITY. Then compare it to my test video in NORMAL quality. Tell me which video looks more blurry.
Standard definition high quality one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOLCht5I2yw&eurl=http://nintendopolis.net/video-portal/...layer_embedded
My test video in standard definition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38qsKxPflkg -
How can I edit this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38qsKxPflkg without losing it's original quality?
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Well no cuz I'm more worried about the SD appearance of the video. ........ I was talking about the SD one. When I watched the video in SD, it was so blurry at some points u can hardly see anything 3 feet ahead of my guy.
Cuz wat if someone doesn't know they can watch it in high-quality? Like if they don't see the link or something?
That's what I would recommend you do with your videos once a high quality option appears.
Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
Look...
There's nothing you can do about this.
HOWEVER, comparing these two videos when watching them in high quality:
YOURS IS CLEARLY SUPERIOR. CREATE AN ANNOTATION OF TELLING (or asking if you want to be polite) YOUR VIEWERS TO WATCH YOUR VIDEO IN HIGH QUALITY.
I do the same thing with my videos as I would rather not have my viewers watching my videos in standard quality.
You're doing fine. All you need to do now is make the process of taking your videos from the camera to YouTube easier on yourself. -
Yea but Sincostan, that superior quality video was unfortunately the non-edited one. It was my raw .mov file. When I edit the file, it looks really bad. Is there anyway I can maintain the same quality from the raw .mov after re-encoding it twice (with SUPER then WMM)? Or is there any free video editing program that can handle these advanced videos so I wont have to use SUPER to convert it to a WMM supportable format so the quality wont keep degrading?
Dude that's in Standard Definition cuz it said watch in high quality when I watched it. -
This time I tried the following:
~I converted .mov to .avi (WMV7 and mp3 codecs), 768 video kbps, 320 audio kbps in SUPER.
~~Exported from Windows Movie Maker as a "Video for local playback" (2.1 Mbps, 30 fps, 720x480, .wmv)
~~~Convert the new .wmv back to a .mov (H.264/AVC and AAC codecs), 5.1 video mbps (5,136 kbps), 256 audio kbps in SUPER.
And the result:
Picture at worst quality point in SD:
Picture at worst quality point in HQ:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRg0pde3ETs&feature=channel_page&fmt=18 -
Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
First, the bitrate you are using in Super is really low. Increase it to at least 3000-4000, if not 5000.
Third (I'll get to the second right after this), this step is totally unnecessary. YOU CANNOT GAIN ANYTHING BY CONVERTING IT INTO A HIGHER BITRATE. You were better off just uploading the .wmv you got from WMM.
Second, you need to choose a different format or setting than this. What I would recommend is DV-AVI, then using VirtualDub to compress it to Xvid the way I explained earlier in this thread.
But, if you're THAT insistent about using .wmv, then "High Quality Video (NTSC)" is best choice of the .wmvs. It's the setting right below DV-AVI.
Again, you're not gonna get anything from YouTube's standard quality. Getting a high-quality video without compression artifacts is the best you (or anybody) can do.
Is there anyway I can maintain the same quality from the raw .mov after re-encoding it twice (with SUPER then WMM)? Or is there any free video editing program that can handle these advanced videos so I wont have to use SUPER to convert it to a WMM supportable format so the quality wont keep degrading?
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Originally Posted by Nintendo FanOriginally Posted by sincostan45Originally Posted by sincostan45
Originally Posted by sincostan45
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Originally Posted by sincostan45
Is there anyway I can maintain the same quality from the raw .mov after re-encoding it twice (with SUPER then WMM)? Or is there any free video editing program that can handle these advanced videos so I wont have to use SUPER to convert it to a WMM supportable format so the quality wont keep degrading?Originally Posted by sincostan45
Originally Posted by sincostan45And it'd be perfect cuz it'd be imported into WMM without me even having to do anything if used a capture card, which would mean I would never have to convert it once, therefore perserving its quality........ UGH why?? WHY?!?!?! :P :P
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DV~AVI, VirtualDub, and XviD worked!! YES!!! FINALLY! Only thing that sucks is that it took 30 minutes just to upload a 4 min video that was 217 MB...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c-39jCupKQ
EDIT: Hey, Sincostan, I have a video that was made with 768 kbps and exported as a low quality .wmv (first option in WMM) from WMM, and the video looks like this (watch in high quality):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4OD3Va0s3c&feature=related
It's the same as the DV~AVI/VirtualDub/XviD one. Can't I just use this instead? It seems like using really low bitrates and bad qualtiy and compressions doesn't seem to affect any of my videos on YouTube. They all look the same in high-quality, no matter how high or low quality they are.
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Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
The first one is MUCH better. I don't have time to take screenshots of them and put them together in a single image, but load both in seperate tabs in your browser, both in high quality and pause right before the race starts when you're in front of the finish line. (When Lakitu is counting down.)
Now, switch back and forth between the two tabs. Look at the Kart, Lakitu, the things in the distance, etc. Also, take note of the "00:00.000" and the "Lap 1/3". Now YOU tell me which is better.
The second video you uploaded is much blurrier. Not to mention, the aspect ratio was changed from what it is in the first video. Even though we're comparing the Bowser's Castle track to the DK Mountain track, the left side of the castle in the distance is MUCH clearer then the leaves are. And the leaves are closer to the camera! Also, Lakitu, the Kart, the text on screen and pretty much everything else is much clearer in the first video.
I can't force you to keep your bitrates high, but it will say that it definitely helps.
By the way, I got your message on YouTube. Sorry man, but online brawling is a no-go for me. I always get disconnected everytime I try to play Brawl online, even with friends who live across town. -
Originally Posted by sincostan45
Aw really? That sucks. Yea, online Brawl is trash. My friend who lives like even 20 mins from me has an ok connection with me. It's alright. I get disconnected a lot too -
Originally Posted by Nintendo Fan
Yeah, the weird thing is that on my own personal cable connection, which is about 20MBit down and 4MBit up using a Belkin router that I spent $85 on, I get disconnected no later then 20-30 seconds of being connected to Nintendo Wi-Fi in Brawl.
But at my dad's house, which has a 2MBit down and 384kbit up DSL connection on a cheap-ass Linksys router, my younger brother can play online Brawl just fine.
Doesn't make any god damn sense. -
Originally Posted by sincostan45
Yea, that doesn't make sense. Connection issues can be really annoying like that.
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