Problem playing subtitles on some movies

[acinider]

Hi, I am having a problem with certain movie files, where if there is a subtitle file present then the movie will not play in WMP11. If I run the movie w/o the subtitle it plays fine and if I play the subtitle on another movie the subtitle works fine.

If I play the problem movie and subtitle together with VLC Player it works fine too. I've tried using Subtitle Workshop to save the subtitle in different formats and that doesn't help. I've tried the following subtitle formats: sub, smi, srt. The movie files are avi's.

When I load a problem movie with a subtitle, WMP just acts as if its stopped. WMP never shows a running or total time, which usually shows up after a movie starts playing, and the screen just stays black.

I need the movie to play in WMP for compatibility with another program.

I'm running WinXP MCE with all windows updates using the newest Klite Mega codec pack. I'm displaying the subtitles with DirectVobSub.

All the movie and subtitle files are the exact same name in the same folder.

Thanks
Brent

[Baldrick]

what version of directvobsub? tried latest? or maybe try the old vobsub.

[poisondeathray]

Do the problematic movies have non mod16 dimensions (not evenly divisible by 16)? Check if the different movies that work have mod16 dimensions

DirectVobSub + DirectShow Players (including WMP, MPC) have issues playing back movies with non mod16 dimensions.

If this is the reason, you would have to re-encode and resize the movie.

[acinider]

Hey! I have DirectVobSub 2.39.

Here is the info on a movie that does NOT play with subtitles:
FILE_SIZE 732,633,088
CONT_AUDIO_STREAM_COUNT 1
CONT_BASETYPE AVI(.AVI)
CONT_BYTES_MISSING 0
CONT_INTERLEAVE_ALIGN Split
CONT_INTERLEAVE_PRELOAD 512
CONT_INTERLEAVE_TIME 42
CONT_SUBTYPE AVI v1.0,
CONT_TOTAL_BITRATE 0
VIDEO_BITRATE 832
VIDEO_CODEC_NAME XviD 1.0.3
VIDEO_CODEC_STATUS Codec(s) are Installed
VIDEO_CODEC_TYPE DX50
VIDEO_DAR 1.870
VIDEO_DURATION 1:34:27
VIDEO_FRAME_COUNT 135871
VIDEO_FRAMES_PER_SEC 23.976
VIDEO_MPEG4 MPEG-4
VIDEO_MPEG4_BVOP B-VOP
VIDEO_PAR 1.000
VIDEO_PICS_PER_SEC 23.976
VIDEO_QF 0.244
VIDEO_SAR 1.870
VIDEO_SIZE_X 516
VIDEO_SIZE_Y 276
AUDIO_BITRATE 192
AUDIO_BITRATE_TYPE CBR
AUDIO_CHANNEL_COUNT 2
AUDIO_CODEC 0x2000 (Dolby AC3) AC3
AUDIO_CODEC_STATUS Codec(s) are Installed
AUDIO_SAMPLE_RATE 48000

Here is the info on a movie that DOES play with subtitles:
FILE_SIZE 736,272,384
CONT_AUDIO_STREAM_COUNT 1
CONT_BASETYPE AVI(.AVI)
CONT_BYTES_MISSING 0
CONT_INTERLEAVE_ALIGN Aligned
CONT_INTERLEAVE_PRELOAD 504
CONT_INTERLEAVE_TIME 42
CONT_SUBTYPE AVI v1.0,
CONT_TOTAL_BITRATE 0
VIDEO_BITRATE 713
VIDEO_CODEC_NAME XviD 1.0.3
VIDEO_CODEC_STATUS Codec(s) are Installed
VIDEO_CODEC_TYPE DX50
VIDEO_DAR 2.423
VIDEO_DURATION 1:57:34
VIDEO_FRAME_COUNT 169122
VIDEO_FRAMES_PER_SEC 23.976
VIDEO_MPEG4 MPEG-4
VIDEO_MPEG4_BVOP B-VOP
VIDEO_PAR 1.000
VIDEO_PICS_PER_SEC 23.976
VIDEO_QF 0.163
VIDEO_SAR 2.423
VIDEO_SIZE_X 664
VIDEO_SIZE_Y 274
AUDIO_BITRATE 112
AUDIO_BITRATE_TYPE CBR
AUDIO_CHANNEL_COUNT 2
AUDIO_CODEC 0x0055 MPEG-1 Layer 3
AUDIO_CODEC_STATUS Codec(s) are Installed
AUDIO_SAMPLE_RATE 48000

Thanks!
Brent

[guns1inger]

Neither of those movies have mod16 compliant dimensions.

FWIW, Windows Media Player is a very average media player with limited capabilities. VLC is better, although not as good as it used to be. I like The KM Player, which will also probably plays these files, with subs, without issue.

[acinider]

Hi, yea i don't like using WMP but my media has to be able to play in WMP or it won't work with this Xbox360 streaming software that I run. Does anyone have any tips to troubleshoot this issue? I mean both movies are not mod16 compliant but one plays fine and one will not play when using subtitles. Both of the movies play fine in WMP without subtitles.

Thanks
Brent

[handyguy]

For X360 try http://tversity.com/ Free.

But I haven't been able to get my x360 to load subs to stream to my x360 (haven't tried tversity). It would have to be hard subbed.

[acinider]

For X360 try http://tversity.com/ Free.

But I haven't been able to get my x360 to load subs to stream to my x360 (haven't tried tversity). It would have to be hard subbed.

Hey, yea that is the program I am using. But since some of my movies do not play in WMP, they will not play on my xbox. However, the main issue I'm trying to fix is why do some movies with subtitles play, while other movies with subtitles will not play. All the while, any movie I play without subtitles plays just fine in WMP. I believe this to be just a computer issue, not TVersity, related.

Thanks
Brent