Does anyone have an idiots guide to converting telecined dvd's please!

[Emanef]

The prerequisite filters for SRestore and links are listed on the mediawiki. You need masktools2, tivtc, remove grain, average.

OK, got all those now, except Average (I couldn't find the files to download from the link on the link)

I can now open the script in VDubMod..... what do I do with it now? I am using VDubMod to do the converting? And what to? Another mpeg/vob file, which I can then convert to x264?

[jagabo]

got all those now, except Average (I couldn't find the files to download from the link on the link)

Here, I think: http://www.geocities.com/wilbertdijkhof/Average_v11.zip

I can now open the script in VDubMod..... what do I do with it now? I am using VDubMod to do the converting? And what to? Another mpeg/vob file, which I can then convert to x264?

VirtualDubMod will only really output as AVI. If you do all your processing in AviSynth put VirtualDubMod in Video -> Fast Recompress mode, select the output codec and parameters with Video -> Compression..., add audio if necessary with Streams -> Stream List -> Add, then File -> Save As...

[Emanef]

The choices are Uncompressed (which I presume will take up loads of space), Cinepak, Intel, Microsoft RLE & Video 1 and Xvid (yv12 and xvid).

I guess I could convert to a high quality xvid and then convert to x264 from that with Staxrip? Presumably this is the stage that corrects the video, so any further conversion will now be corrected? Do I need to change teh framerate?

What's the difference between VDub and VDubMod btw?

[jagabo]

Install x264vfw from here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=213809

It will show up in VirtualDubMod.

[manono]

I guess I could convert to a high quality xvid and then convert to x264 from that with Staxrip?

Dumb idea, making an intermediate XviD. If you want to go that route, then install and use a lossless AVI codec, one such as Lagarith. I've never used StaxRip, but if it doesn't allow for editing of the AviSynth scripts it creates, then it's not for you when doing these unusual conversions. You might check to see if you can load the AviSynth script itself as your source, the way you can when using VDub(Mod).

XviD4PSP makes x264 videos and also allows for editing of the .avs. But jagabo's solution might be the best one, using the VFW form of x264.

Do I need to change teh framerate?

The framerate is set with the FRate parameter of SRestore, in this case 24fps. You can confirm by opening the script in VDub(Mod), and then going File->File Information.

[Emanef]

Just looking at the file Staxrip creates in the pre-encoding process, and it creates two avs files, one from DGIndex and a second when it does a compressibility test, with the filename of the output file but with the same script, ie, it just points to the d2v file;

MPEG2Source("F:\MainMovie\Hard Boiled\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.d2v")

I'm going to chuck the script text into there and see if Staxrip picks it up from there.

Actually, if I select the Yadif plugin in Staxrip and double click on it I can edit the script. Just put it in there, so it's converting and I'll see how it gets on.

[Emanef]

I've uploaded a few more examples, if you wouldn't mind having a look at them;

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=c7539cc8e8bf94c1d2db6fb9a8902bda

Ichi R1 NTSC Interlaced, 29.97fps
Interstate 60, as above
Shaolin SOccer, R3 Film Progressive, 29.9fps
King of Comedy, R1 Film progressive, 29.97.

For Shaolin Soccer and King of Comedy, should just creating the d2v with Force Film set be sufficient?

And the other two, using the similar Yadif script?
Ideally I'd like to have a few different script templates that cover most of the types I'll need. Is that what most people would do?

[jagabo]

Ichi is straight 3:2 pulldown.

Yadif(mode=0, order=1)
TDecimate()

should be sufficient.

[manono]

Any reason you prefer using a deinterlacer (Yadif) over a field matcher (TFM)? Me, I'd definitely prefer:

TFM().TDecimate()

or, if gone over carefully to make sure there's no left-over interlacing to be post-processed (somewhat faster encoding):

TFM(PP=0).TDecimate()

I don't think an interpolating deinterlacer, no matter how good, can be the equal of a field matcher. Or does "should be sufficient" recognize this but for some reason (decent if not optimum output, speed) you'd use it anyway?

[jagabo]

I seem to recall having problems with TFM() crashing so I stopped using it. Maybe it's better now. I thought Yadif() only interpolated when it can't match fields. But yes, TFM() should do a better job and Yadif() makes lots of errors with small moving details. I usually use SeparateFields().SelectEvery().Weave() but don't want to spend hours writing up how to do it!

[manono]

I usually use SeparateFields().SelectEvery().Weave() but don't want to spend hours writing up how to do it!

Hehe, I've put in countless hours doing that (something very similar, anyway), before the unblenders worked for any framerates other than the standard PAL2NTSC stuff (silent films, mostly). I, for one, will never do it again, because these were from DVD where the pattern changed frequently. I think you've said before that with TV caps frequently the pattern either doesn't change, or doesn't change very often (commercials?), which might make it more practical.

I seem to recall having problems with TFM() crashing so I stopped using it.

I've never had the problem, or maybe there was a problem at the very beginning, before it matured. In any event, I find it very stable and Decomb is always available if for some reason TIVTC doesn't work for you.

I thought Yadif() only interpolated when it can't match fields.

As far as I know it doesn't do any field matching at all. It'll only use the other field in the same frame to help create the deinterlaced frame. And 40 percent (2 of 5) of the matching fields will come from different frames.