TSPE beta out! (Editor / Analyser for H.264 / VC-1 / MPEG2 / BD / AVCHD...)

[Ventolin]

Hey guys,

Sorry I have not replied sooner and sorry you guys are having trouble with the beta and temp licences.

Well, I can't really comment about the "winding back the clock hack" for temp licences - you guys will have to deal with that yourselves!

However, I think I found the issue and have posted a "newer" version you can try here:

http://www.bitstreamtools.com/download/TS%20Packet%20Editor%200.755.rar

It has the same version number but is different from the version you get when you click the link on the website.

Please let me know if that version fixes the issue. If it does, I'll update the website link.

Note: this should only affect the temp beta licence - full licences should not be affected!

The next version 0.80 is almost ready for release - I'm just adding some icons (finally!) and tidying up a few things. I might release it to some full licence customers first to see if it's ready for public release, so I thank you for your patience in advance.

Frame accurate is due in 1.0. 0.90 will have a new muxing engine and independant PID editing using the timeline. The timeline is new for 0.80 and will be fully completed for 0.90.

Hopefully I'll be able to add Windows 7 support also for full licences. (Yes that means TSPE 0.755 is not yet Windows 7 compatible for full licences only).

0.80 has showanalyser and comskip import ability, but is a little rough around the edges.

There will be 2 versions of TSPE - Professional and Standard. The beta versions are all the "Professional" version. The Standard version won't have the analysis features. The Professional version is likely to be twice the price it is now and the standard version will be the current price, though this isn't final yet.

TSPE full licence is locked to a PC and follows the Windows OEM model - any significant change will require re-activation of TSPE. Quite a few products use this model but I am keeping an eye on the effectiveness of the policy and is by no means final.

Thanks for all your comments and feedback both postive and negative (there's no negative, just positive!) do keep it coming!

All the best,

Vent

[The_Doman]

However, I think I found the issue and have posted a "newer" version you can try here:

http://www.bitstreamtools.com/download/TS%20Packet%20Editor%200.755.rar

It has the same version number but is different from the version you get when you click the link on the website.

Please let me know if that version fixes the issue. If it does, I'll update the website link.

The saving/processing problem is solved.
On my (clean) test-PC with the current date set everything worked normally again.

Thanks for updating us about the developments of your TSPE tool!

[DiGG]

Works great!

Frame accurate is due in 1.0. 0.90 will have a new muxing engine and independant PID editing using the timeline. The timeline is new for 0.80 and will be fully completed for 0.90.

Is there an ETA on that? There's an other product (don't know if I should name it here) that will offer frame-accuracy editing, and should be available for sale in a few weeks. I will spend ALOT to get frame-accuracy editing, I've been waiting for this for almost 2 years...

[Ventolin]

Well, something is wrong for me. The old one (and other programs) load the TS just fine (I can see the video), but with this new version, I load a TS and I don't see the video!

Haali is loaded and configured as usual. Something I'm suppose to set differently?


(with latest version... grey as it can't show the video at all)

Hi DiGG,

It helps enormously of course if you turn on the video checkbox under the video window

LOL I noticed you have sneakily edited your post but you're too late already!

Thanks for the update The_Doman & DiGG

Regards,

Vent

[DiGG]

LOL I noticed you have sneakily edited your post but you're too late already!

Ya, stupid me! Finally found it by myself lol!!

[Ventolin]

Frame accurate is due in 1.0. 0.90 will have a new muxing engine and independant PID editing using the timeline. The timeline is new for 0.80 and will be fully completed for 0.90.

Is there an ETA on that? There's an other product (don't know if I should name it here) that will offer frame-accuracy editing, and should be available for sale in a few weeks. I will spend ALOT to get frame-accuracy editing, I've been waiting for this for almost 2 years...

Hi DiGG,

No ETA I'm afraid. I'm trying to keep to a new release every 3 months though, but I would rather release something less buggy less often than something very buggy but often.

Yes, there are other products available that will do frame accurate editing (some are already available) but none that will edit *any* transport stream regardless of what is inside. This is especially true when editing streams from BluRay. One thing to be aware of if you are editing high bitrate streams (20Mb/s +) is the encoding bitrate limit of the other frame accurate editors.

If you are willing to spend ALOT to get frame accurate editing, then why not get both?

Rest assured that I am committed to make TSPE the best it can be and it already has plenty of features that no other application has that I know of without spending a fortune (if it exists).

Regards,

Vent

[DiGG]

Yes, there are other products available that will do frame accurate editing (some are already available) but none that will edit *any* transport stream regardless of what is inside.

Well, I got confirmation it will edit MY transport streams (HD-PVR), which btw don't go over 13.5Mpbs. It's really all I need. You say there are others already out, I never heard of them lol!

Thanks for answering though.

[ManuHD]

Hey guys,


http://www.bitstreamtools.com/download/TS%20Packet%20Editor%200.755.rar

It has the same version number but is different from the version you get when you click the link on the website.

Please let me know if that version fixes the issue. If it does, I'll update the website link.


Vent

Hi Vent,

Thank you very much for the Fix. This version works great.
Thanks for all your work.

Manu

[ManuHD]

Hi Vent,

Does TSPE support Canon HF-11 camcorder (AVCHD) .MTS files?

I tried one and get the following error. "Error:
Buffer underrun in edit operation, reading non-final blocks in final loop pass." Am I doing something wrong or its just not supported?

Opening: C:\CanonHF11\RAW\00050.MTS
Opening File...
Video Loaded.
Auto Finding PIDs
PID Attribute List:
PID: 0x1011: H.264 1920x1088 (1920x1080) @ 29.970 fps

Scanning For Format Changes
File size: 162981888 Bytes
Video Resolution from Codec: 1920 x 1080 @ 29.97 fps
Duration from Codec: 54.95
Duration from Timestamps: 54.99
Average System Bitrate: 23711514.89
Done.


Testing Start Point
Copying Data...
Creating Test Edit
New PAT Created.
New PMT Created.

Error:
Buffer underrun in edit operation, reading non-final blocks in final loop pass.
PID: 16, iPii: 0, ProgIndex: 0
Error: Edit failed, only 384 bytes written.

[Ventolin]

Hi Vent,

Does TSPE support Canon HF-11 camcorder (AVCHD) .MTS files?

I tried one and get the following error. "Error:
Buffer underrun in edit operation, reading non-final blocks in final loop pass." Am I doing something wrong or its just not supported?

Hi ManuHD,

TSPE 0.755 should edit this with a full licence, but due to a bug the temp licence will not edit an .m2ts/mts file.

TSPE 0.80 should edit this for both full and temp licences. It's almost ready if you can wait!

Regards,

Vent

[ManuHD]

Niceee....

With HD-PVR TS files taken care of by TSPE and soon my Canon MTS files...... This program keeps getting better and better.

Thanks for the update.

Hi Vent,

Does TSPE support Canon HF-11 camcorder (AVCHD) .MTS files?

I tried one and get the following error. "Error:
Buffer underrun in edit operation, reading non-final blocks in final loop pass." Am I doing something wrong or its just not supported?

Hi ManuHD,

TSPE 0.755 should edit this with a full licence, but due to a bug the temp licence will not edit an .m2ts/mts file.

TSPE 0.80 should edit this for both full and temp licences. It's almost ready if you can wait!

Regards,

Vent

[SamuriHL]

Any time frame on the W7 support? Without that I'm afraid I can't use TSPE at all. I have a couple streams I'd like to try it out on.

[Ventolin]

Any time frame on the W7 support? Without that I'm afraid I can't use TSPE at all. I have a couple streams I'd like to try it out on.

Hi SamuriHL,

Hopefully in the next few days! I'll drop you a note...

Regards,

Vent

[hellsike]

Ventolin

Any ETA on Windows 7 support?

[Ventolin]

Hi Hellsike,

Since I last posted there have been a number of beta test candidates to the closed beta group; the last is now finally stable but there's a bug in one of the Timelines. I'm rewriting that as we speak so hopefully will have that ready by the end of the week.

If all goes well, should be looking at a release at the start of December if not sooner.

Sorry for the continued delay.

Regards,

Vent

[hellsike]

Thanks for your answer!
Really looking forward to it.

[hellsike]

Come on! I want this one ;p

[Ventolin]

Hi Hellsike,

Sorry for the continued delay, just keep finding bugs to fix! Nearly there though, I promise! If you have a full licence let me know - I might be able to add you to the closed beta test for 0.80.

Regards,

Vent

[mcwups1]

Hello...

I've got the new closed beta version, and I love it for editing, but I have a big problem.

I'm trying to convert down to a .MP4 for easy movement of some football games, but when I do, no matter what, I end up with audio synchronization problems. This usually occurs after a commercial cut, and to the next scene.

What am I doing wrong here, because I simply cannot find a program to convert down without losing audio sync?

I'm on W7, capping with HD-PVR1212, and editing commercials with TSPE. The final .TS file after edit looks great, and it plays great on any player, but if I transcode, it's destroyed, and I wasted more time.

Thank In Advance

[Ventolin]

Hi mcwups1,

Some quick things to try - Enable Demux Raw Streams under the demux menu after setting your edit points. TSPE will edit and demux in one pass. Try feeding the output files into your encoding process to see if that helps.

You could also try remuxing the file with something like TSMuxer to see if that helps.

I'd need a sample and walkthrough of how you would go about re-encoding your file so I can reproduce the issue to be able to figure out what we can do.

Hope that helps,

Regards,

Vent

[Ventolin]

Hi folks,

Well, after days and days of "almost ready" (more like months ahem!), the next version,

TSPE 0.810 Professional is finally out!

You can download it here:

http://www.bitstreamtools.com/download

This version is fresh out of the closed beta test so I've labeled it as "Unstable Development Alpha Release" mostly because there are probably bugs which haven't been caught yet and need to be fixed. Updates will be added as and when bugs are fixed and new features added.

If you have a full licence you will need to regenerate your new licence details with the new version. A temp licence is inlcuded with the TSPE setup program which is used if no existing licence is found in the installation folder. The temp licence gives 30 days unrestricted evaluation.

A list of new features are given if you follow the "What's New" link, but here's a brief summary:

• Windows 7 support
• GUI Update
• Timelines - PIDLine, PESLine, Timeline
• Comskip / ShowAnalyser import
• Application Setup and Uninstall
• Update checking
• Enhancements and Bug Fixes!

So, what's next?
0.90 - New Muxing engine, independant PID editing
1.00 - Frame accurate

No timeframes for the above I'm afraid, but I'll try and keep a stable beta and unstable alpha available so you can try out the newest versions.

Thanks to all for your support and feedback, of course you are always welcome to give some more!

Regards,

Vent

[boney497]

Vent,

I've been testing the new version and really like the gui changes. One problem I've noticed is concerning edl import from showanalyzer. The import results in the opposite desired effect...the commercials get saved and the good video is cut. Keep up the good work.

[David Hook]

Ventolin:
I've noticed that I'm no longer able to stack the same segment with different cut points.
Whenever I change the cut point and try to add it to the list, it changes the existing.
I liked to stack a couple of different cut points to compare transition length.
It isn't a biggie, but I hate having to resort to paper and pencil to write down the locations.
Is there a workaround?

Also, when i opened the program for the first time, it tried to do an on-line version check.
It couldn't get by the firewall and continually opened browser windows and started to open tabs in each window. I watched as it clucked away for a minute or so.
It was kind of funny, actually.

[Ventolin]

Vent,

I've been testing the new version and really like the gui changes. One problem I've noticed is concerning edl import from showanalyzer. The import results in the opposite desired effect...the commercials get saved and the good video is cut. Keep up the good work.

Hi boney497,

Thanks for that bug report, will look into it. Glad you like the GUI changes!

Ventolin:
I've noticed that I'm no longer able to stack the same segment with different cut points.
Whenever I change the cut point and try to add it to the list, it changes the existing.
I liked to stack a couple of different cut points to compare transition length.
It isn't a biggie, but I hate having to resort to paper and pencil to write down the locations.
Is there a workaround?

Yes, you can turn off the overlap detection from menu Edit -> EDL Options -> Auto Detect EDL Overlaps.

Also, when i opened the program for the first time, it tried to do an on-line version check.
It couldn't get by the firewall and continually opened browser windows and started to open tabs in each window. I watched as it clucked away for a minute or so.
It was kind of funny, actually.

Thanks for that bug report, will look into it also. What browser and firewall are you using? TSPE should just make one request and should fail silently if an error is returned (eg 404 html response). I'm sure you've realised you can turn off the online version check from the help menu, but perhaps this should be an option set in setup?

Regards,

Vent

[David Hook]

Yes, you can turn off the overlap detection from menu Edit -> EDL Options -> Auto Detect EDL Overlaps.

Thanks for that.

Thanks for that bug report, will look into it also. What browser and firewall are you using? TSPE should just make one request and should fail silently if an error is returned (eg 404 html response). I'm sure you've realised you can turn off the online version check from the help menu, but perhaps this should be an option set in setup?

Regards,

Vent

I am using Firefox as the default browser with Vista firewall controller along with the router's application control. TSPE opened Internet Explorer which is blocked.

Yes, I have since disabled the on-line version check.

[Ventolin]

Yes, you can turn off the overlap detection from menu Edit -> EDL Options -> Auto Detect EDL Overlaps.

Thanks for that.

Thanks for that bug report, will look into it also. What browser and firewall are you using? TSPE should just make one request and should fail silently if an error is returned (eg 404 html response). I'm sure you've realised you can turn off the online version check from the help menu, but perhaps this should be an option set in setup?

Regards,

Vent

I am using Firefox as the default browser with Vista firewall controller along with the router's application control. TSPE opened Internet Explorer which is blocked.

Yes, I have since disabled the on-line version check.

Ahh now it all makes sense!

TSPE uses an IE control inside TSPE in the background to do the version check - if IE is blocked it would explain the behaviour. I'll try and replicate that here to fix it.

Thanks for that!

Regards,

Vent

[David Hook]

Ventolin:

Another oddity: The "auto-detect EDL overlaps" setting will not save. It must be reset upon each launch.
Now that I'm thinking about it, it defaulted to "disabled" in your previous version. I must assume something has changed.
Again, not a biggie, but I'd thought you'd like to know.

Cheers for your labours. :thumbup:

[boney497]

Vent,

Although the editing should be accurate by starting on an I-frame, my edits show distortion unless I begin at IDR frame. My edits are using HD-PVR encodings with AVC Main@L4.0 CABAC 4 ReFrames. Shouldn't I be able to start a segment using one of the reference frames to get a clean start, i.e. be frame accurate on the cut?

[DVWannaB]

Ventolin,

I am sorry to say, but I am moving on from TSPE to VideoRedo TVSuite 4 H.264. They now have much of the capability we have been asking of TSPE for about a year now. Better video scrubber and frame accurate cutting as a starting point. I would have willingly hung on longer, but my list of projects were growing to long waiting for these basic upgrades. To make matters worse, about 3 weeks ago, TSPE decided it no longer wanted to cut my HD-PVR files. It was really weird that it suddenly started generating errors after making my cut point selections and executing. This alone drove me to try the newly released version of TVSuite 4 H.264. It works great and does what TSPE promised it would do.

Good luck and hope you can at least give the VideoRedo guys a run for the money. A little competition is always a good thing.

[boney497]

Vent,

Just checking in to see how the next release is going. Keep up the good work.