Blu-Ray Movie Size

[wulf109]

I'm thinking about buying a Blu-Ray burner,but I'm confused about the size of the movie in the primary m2ts file. I've looked at a bunch disks and they all seem to be dual-layer,30-40GB's.
I looked at Men In Black for example the main m2ts reads as 27.2GB's,but when I remux it into movie only with just the primary audio stream it drops to 17.4Gb's. That seems like a huge difference. Is this typical?
My concern is that most movie only backups would fit on a single layer BD-R,dual-layer disks are simply too expensive.

[yoda313]

Seems to make sense there. The extra size on one disc probably makes bonus material possible on one disc instead of a second disc.

It's probably like dvds are now - if you have a relatively low bitrate movie or short in duration film you can fit more bonus stuff on one disc. than you don't need two discs in the set.

[rhegedus]

Some movies are spread out over several m2ts files (Simpsons) so there's no way of knowing if the largest of the m2ts files is the whole movie or part of it.

Added to which, even if the largest m2ts file is the whole movie there's no way of knowing how much of the file size is for audio tracks and subs you don't need.

What you need to do is look at the disk with BDInfo then load the mpls file for the main movie into TSMuxer then take out the streams you don't need then mux to a new m2ts file for the main movie.

My concern is that most movie only backups would fit on a single layer BD-R,dual-layer disks are simply too expensive.

Rip to HD and buy a BD-RE for when you want to watch.

[glassjoe]

rhegedus - your post was very informative and I am currently performing the process you detailed as I type this message. One question I do have is if there is any way to see the size of the file after you have loaded the .mpls file and have removed the streams you don't need. I'm brand new to the remox process and am not sure what to expect once it finishes. Thanks!

[Supreme2k]

Great info guys as I am trying to break onto this scene as well. I just bought an LG BD Writer and 500GB of HD space to start burning.

Poor choice of words.

Usually the warez crowd are the only ones referring to "breaking into the scene". It makes you sound like a torrent ripper.

[glassjoe]

Ok, thanks. Edited as required... I don't even know what a torrent ripper is, but ok.

[rhegedus]

One question I do have is if there is any way to see the size of the file after you have loaded the .mpls file and have removed the streams you don't need.

Not that I'm aware of.

BDInfo will give an estimate of the total size before remuxing, so the output will be less.

[ocgw]

On seamless branching discs (like The Simsons) use BD Edit, or BD Info to find the playlists, the top playlist is usually the correct playlist and you can see the running time, load that playlist into TSMuxer to join the movie into a single .m2ts file in a BD structure

For those that didn't know the latest verion of TsMuxer (1.8.18 ) will rip and demux on the fly from the disc by loading the playlist into the same window you usually put the largest .m2ts file so there is no need to rip w/ AnyDVD HD first

important: only use the latest verion of TsMuxer (1.8.18 ) so as to not bug up your HD audio tracks, even if you only save the core audio it will still be bugged using the old versions, and only PowerDVD will play them because it is tolerant of the flawed track and you won't realize it till you try to play it w/ another player or process it thru any other program (they won't recognize it)

I am now in the process of reencoding my remuxed movie only folders to BD-9 (DL-DVD) w/ BD Rebuilder, on my new AMD Phenom II 940 @ 3.5Ghz I shrink a 30GB+ movie to 7.5GB @ the HIGHEST quality settings in 7hrs

the resulting file is indistinguishable from the original on my 56"

btw some of the most knowlegable blu ray guys are in the Slysoft AnyDVD HD forum

for those just wanting to know what movies will fit w/o reencoding

All movie only, 1 core 5.1 audio track (pref DTS) no subtitles

note: these are folders NOT ISO's (but shouldn't be any difference in size)

1408 25.4GB
APPALOOSA 16.2GB
BODY OF LIES 21.0GB
BULLETPROOF MONK 15.5GB
CRIMSON TIDE 20.8GB
DADDY'S LITTLE GIRLS 21.0GB
EAGLE EYE 26.0GB
GANGS OF NEW YORK 28.4GB
HELLBOY II-THE GOLDEN ARMY 19.7GB
I, ROBOT 22.5GB
MR & MRS SMITH 22.6GB
NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM 16.6GB
PURPLE RAIN 14.5GB
RESIDENT EVIL-APOCALYPSE 12.8GB
RIGHTEOUS KILL 20.9GB
SERENITY 16.7GB
SHOOT EM' UP 17.0GB
STIR OF ECHOES 18.3GB
STUCK 12.2GB
THE FIFTH ELEMENT 26.2GB
THE LOST BOYS 12.3GB
TRANSFORMERS 25.1GB
TYLER PERRY'S-MEET THE BROWNS 14.5GB
ULTRAVIOLET 12.9GB
VAN HELSING 19.0GB
WANTED 17.3GB
WYATT EARP-SPECIAL EDITION 14.3GB
xXx-SPECIAL EDITION 16.0GB
ARLINGTON ROAD 21.7GB
BRIDGE TO TERABITHIA 16.2GB
CHAIN REACTION 16.2GB
DIE ANOTHER DAY 22.8GB
FANTASTIC 4 2-RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER 20.6GB
FIRST SUNDAY 18.8GB
GATTACA 20.6GB
GRIDIRON GANG 20.7GB
HANCOCK 18.7GB
HELLBOY 25.6GB
LEATHAL WEAPON 19.4GB
MAN ON FIRE 33.6GB
MAX PAYNE 17.8GB
MEN OF HONOR 17.5GB
NATURAL BORN KILLERS 24.7GB
OUTBREAK 14.7GB
PERFECT STRANGER 19.7GB
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN-CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL 21.7GB
ROCKN' ROLLA' 14.1GB
S.W.A.T. 14.5GB
SCARY MOVIE 11.9GB
SPIDERMAN 23.7GB
THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA-PRINCE CASPIAN 22.6GB
THE DARK KNIGHT 27.4GB
THE DEPARTED 17.2GB
THE INCREDIBLE HULK 16.5GB
THE SHINING 16.1GB
TRAITOR 23.1GB
WILD HOGS 17.3GB
AVP 22.8GB
CONSTANTINE 13.2GB
DAYLIGHT 20.5GB
DEJA 'VU 22.0GB
ENEMY OF THE STATE 16.9GB
G. I. JANE 16.8GB
GOTHIKA 15.2GB
HITMAN 12.1GB
HOSTEL II 17.0GB
I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER 19.6GB
INDEPENDENCE DAY 30.7GB
IRONMAN 25.6GB
JUMPER 21.8GB
KING ARTHUR 25.4GB
LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD 26.8GB
MATRIX REVOLUTIONS 15.1GB
MERCURY RISING 21.1GB
RAMBO 19.0GB
REIGN OF FIRE 14.3GB
STREET KINGS 27.9GB
THE BAMK JOB 16.3GB
THE CONDEMNED 16.7GB
THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW 15.0GB
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 35.5GB
THE MATRIX RELOADED 16.0GB
THE OMEN 666 15.7GB
THE SUM OF ALL FEARS 29.4GB
THE UNTOUCHABLES 30.2GB
TOTLAL RECALL 20.2GB
UNTRACEABLE 19.0GB
WAR 19.2GB
2 FAST 2 FURIOUS 18.2GB
28 WEEKS LATER 26.6GB
ALEXANDER-DIRECTOR'S CUT 27.3GB
AVP2 19.9GB
DARK CITY-DIRECTOR'S CUT 15.9GB
DIE HARD 26.6GB
DIE HARD 2-DIE HARDER 27.0GB
DIE HARD 3-DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE 28.2GB
FORBIDDEN KINGDOM 24.1GB
FOUR BROTHERS 16.1GB
GHOST RIDER 24.7GB
GONE IN 60 SECONDS 14.0GB
INDIANA JONES 4-KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 28.5GB
JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH 16.4GB
LAND OF THE DEAD 14.6GB
LEATHAL WEAPON 2 19.5GB
PAYBACK-STRAIGHT UP-DIRECTOR'S CUT 15.6GB
PHONE BOOTH 15.3GB
REVOLVER 21.7GB
SHOOTER 21.6GB
SPIDERMAN 3 27.2GB
STARGATE CONTINIUM 15.1GB
STARSHIP TROOPERS 22.4GB
STEP UP TO THE STREETS 18.2GB
STOMP THE YARD 24.6GB
THE BOURNE SUPREMACY 16.6GB
THE GAME PLAN 17.4GB
THE HAUNTED MANSION 12.0GB
THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS 25.4GB
THE ROCK 20.1GB
THE SIXTH SENSE 18.4GB
THE SKELETON KEY 16.4GB
THIS CHRISTMAS 22.3GB
28 DAYS LATER 30.7GB
BATMAN BEGINS 16.0GB
BLACK SNAKE MOAN 22.3GB
BLOOD DIAMOND 15.2GB
CHILFDREN OF MEN 16.3GB
CRASH 18.8GB
DANTE'S PEAK 21.1GB
DAWN OF THE DEAD 16.8GB
DIRTY HARRY 18.2GB
DISTURBIA 25.7GB
DOOM 13.1GB
EXCALIBUR 20.5GB
FEARLESS 16.8GB
GOODFELLAS 17.9GB
LIAR LIAR 12.1GB
LUCKY NUMBER SLEVIN 18.6GB
NEXT 17.OGB
PREDATOR 16.0GB
SPEED 18.8GB
THE BONE COLLECTOR 20.1GB
THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS 16.6GB
THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS 3-TOKYO DRIFT 16.9GB
THE GAME 24.9GB
THE GOLDEN COMPASS 20.1GB
THE HITCHER (2007) 15.3GB
THE ITALIAN JOB 18.1GB
THE MUMMY 18.0GB
THE NUTTY PROFESSOR 13.8GB
THE NUTTY PROFESSOR 2-THE KLUMPS 13.2GB
THE RECRUIT 18.2GB
THE RUNDOWN 14.2GB
THE SCORPION KING 17.7GB
THE USUAL SUSPECTS 15.8GB
TRAINING DAY 16.6GB
TRANSPORTER 13.8GB
TRANSPORTER 2 15.3GB
TROY 18.1GB
U571 19.3GB
WATERWORLD 18.2GB
10,000 B.C. 13.6GB
AEON FLUX 11.6GB
BLACK HAWK DOWN 27.6GB
CALITO'S WAY 20.6GB
CHICAGO 17.9GB
CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK 19.5GB
COMING TO AMERICA 17.4GB
CRANK 15.6GB
ENTRAPMENT 16.7GB
FULL METAL JACKET 20.7GB
HARRY POTTER 5-AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX 14.6GB
I AM LEGEND 12.9GB
IDENTITY 19.2GB
KING OF NEW YORK 15.8GB
NATIONAL TREASURE 23.9GB
PAN'S LABYRINTH 15.1GB
PEARL HARBOR 28.8GB
PLANET OF THE APES 16.2GB
RUSH HOUR 3 11.6GB
SAW 4 13.0GB
SAW V 15.7GB
SAW III 15.2GB
SILENT HILL 15.5GB
SPECIES 14.1GB
SWORDFISH 15.0GB
T2 19.6GB
T3 11.3GB
THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA 27.6GB
THE EYE 13.7GB
THE FUGITIVE 20.4GB
THE KINGDOM 16.3GB
THE MUMMY RETURNS 23.1GB
THE MUMMY-TOMB OF THE DRAGON EMPEROR 21.0GB
THE PATRIOT 30.5GB
THE PERFECT STORM 20.7GB
THE REAPING 10.9GB
THE TERMINATOR 15.0GB
UNDERWORLD 25.3GB
UNDERWORLD EVOLUTION 13.3GB
BACKDRAFT 21.2GB
CASINO 25.3GB
CON AIR 20.8GB
END OF DAYS 20.5GB
ERAGON 15.5GB
FACE OFF 29.0GB
FANTASTIC FOUR 14.0GB
FELON 19.7GB
HOLLOWMAN 22.8GB
NATIONAL TREASURE 2 21.7GB
PITCH BLACK 20.7GB
RAMBO II 16.5GB
RAY 22.5GB
RED DRAGON 20.3GB
RESERVOIR DOGS 15.7GB
RESIDENT EVIL 19.4GB
SAW 19.2GB
SLY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW 15.6GB
SPIDERMAN 2 24.5GB
TEARS OF THE SUN-SPECIAL EDITION 14.7GB
THE BOURNE IDENTITY 19.4GB
THE BRAVE ONE 15.8GB
THE COVENANT 14.8GB
THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER 33.1GB
THE ROAD WARRIOR 2-MAD MAX 15.7GB
TWISTER 16.2GB
UNFORGIVEN 17.2GB
UNLEASHED 14.2GB
WAIST DEEP 13.4GB
X-MEN 3-LAST MAN STANDING 16.3GB
SUNSHINE 20.6GB
BANKOK DANGEROUS 24.0GB
FIRST KNIGHT 26.0GB

ocgw

peace

[fast eddie]

@ocgw

You are getting your software programs mixed up.

TSMUXER is 1.8.18b

TSREMUXER is 0.0.21.2

fast eddie from the Slysoft website.

[ocgw]

@ocgw

You are getting your software programs mixed up.

TSMUXER is 1.8.18b

TSREMUXER is 0.0.21.2

fast eddie from the Slysoft website.

Whoops, I edited it lol

thx a heap eddie

ocgw

peace

[chiledmug]

Hey bluerayer's.....,
startin' up the blueray burnin' and just want to know (if anyone looks into these older posts),
1. do you have to use 'blue ray ' discs for burnig m2xxx files onto your discs for play back in a bd player?
from readin' a few posts I'm under the impression you don't have to. (Whatever's best monetarily.)
thnx,
chiled 8)

[ocgw]

Hey bluerayer's.....,
startin' up the blueray burnin' and just want to know (if anyone looks into these older posts),
1. do you have to use 'blue ray ' discs for burnig m2xxx files onto your discs for play back in a bd player?
from readin' a few posts I'm under the impression you don't have to. (Whatever's best monetarily.)
thnx,
chiled 8)

If you want to burn a demuxed "movie only" blu ray movie to a DL-DVD (BD-9) you will have to shrink it w/ BD Rebuilder first @ highest quality settings, which can take a day or two w/ older cpus, a nice quad will do it in a few hrs

ocgw

peace