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    Assuming:

    Windows machine running XP SP2+ or Vista SP1+
    Blu-ray compatible drive

    Tools:
    AnyDVD HD
    BDInfo
    SupRip
    TSMuxeR
    eac3to
    meGUI
    VDubMod

    I would also suggest making sure you have the latest versions of Haali Media Splitter, Avisynth, FFdshow, XviD codec installed.

    Acroynms:
    BD - Blu-ray Disc


    Preperation:

    If installed, remove Microsoft Groove before starting.

    Install all applications.

    I recommend keeping all rips and working files on a seperate partition free of other data.



    Step 1: Ripping

    Right click on AnyDVD icon in the System Tray (in the Windows Taskbar)

    Click "Rip Video DVD to Harddisk..."

    Select source and destination and click Copy DVD

    Leave the computer alone to complete this task



    Step 2: "Muxing"

    The video and audio on a BD is contained in the \BDMV\STREAM or \BDMV\STREAMS folder in files with the extension .m2ts and \BDMV\PLAYLIST contains .mpls files which reference the streams.

    The main movie on a BD is usually contained in one .m2ts file. You will be able to see which file by either running each of them in PowerDVD (the easiest way is by dragging and dropping them into the player) or by arranging them in size order. The biggest file will "probably" be the main feature.

    If there's no 20+GB m2ts file it means that the movie is split up into multiple small files. You can get a list of files the movie is put together or the playlist file with BDInfo or "eac3to BD_Folder" You can load the specified .mpls file into TSmuxeR and select "m2ts muxing" start muxing and it will create one large m2ts file with the whole movie.

    Get the list of all the available the streams in the m2ts file: "eac3to Movie.m2ts".

    Create the preferred audio track: "eac3to Movie.m2ts 2: Audio.ac3 -640" where the preferred audio is stream #2 in the m2ts file and to be encoded to 640kbps AC3.

    If you want to make subtitle(s): "eac3to Movie.m2ts 5: Subtitle.sup" where the preferred subtitle is stream #5. SupRip will convert this created .sup file to .srt to be used with multimedia players.



    Step 3: Preparing for Step 4

    Step 4 will require us to create an AVISynth script file, but we can use MeGUI to do this for us, or type the whole .avs file in notepad.

    Open MeGUI and select from the menu bar, Tools -> AVS Script Creator and load the movie m2ts.

    Select autocrop to remove the black parts (because they just waste space). The cropped resolution should be mod16 compatible. For example if auto crop gives you 0,140,0,142 (1920x798) change it manually to 0,140,0,140 (1920x800) OR 0,142,0,142 (1920x796) that the final resolution to be a multiplier of four.

    You could also, should you wish, reduce the resolution at this point. This also needs to be mod16 compatible, the final resolution needs to be dividable by 4.

    Save the .avs file to your working directory.

    Now browse to the working directory and open the .avs file in notepad (or whatever you prefer).

    Edit the top line to remove the "fps" and "audio" parameters, leaving only the file path. Example: from "DirectShowSource("C:\BD_DISC\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2 ts",fps=23.975,audio=false)" create "DirectShowSource("C:\BD_DISC\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2 ts")".

    Save the .avs file changes[/list].



    Step 4: Finishing it off (Dubbing)

    OpenVirtualDubMod and click File, Open Video, and browse to the .avs file

    Open the .avs file

    We will now do a "double pass XviD encoding @ 8000kbps"... this will now be explained fully

    For the first pass we disable the audio and save the file as "first pass.avi"

    From the menu bar click Streams -> Stream Lists.

    Select the audio (AVI Audio Stream) and click disable (because we don't want it to take extra time space for the 1st pass conversion) and click OK

    From the menu bar click Video -> Compression and in the list scroll down and select XviD

    Click Configure in the bottom right

    Select Profile as HDTV

    Select Encoding Type as "twopass - 1st pass" and click OK, OK

    From the menu bar click File -> Save as

    Check "don't run this job now, add it to job control...", use filename "first pass.avi" and click save

    Nothing will happen just yet

    For the second pass we add the created audio back in and create the final AVI with XviD/AC3

    From the menu bar click Streams -> Stream Lists -> Add

    Add the previously created AC3 audio in step 2, leave the original audio stream from m2ts disabled, then click OK,

    From the menu bar click Video -> Compression and in the list scroll down and select XviD

    Click Configure in the bottom right

    Select Profile as HDTV

    Select Encoding Type as "twopass - 2nd pass"

    Select Bitrate as 8000kps and click OK, OK

    From the menu bar click File -> Save as

    Check "don't run this job now, add it to job control...", use filename "second pass.avi" and click save



    Step 5: Do IT!

    From the menu bar click File -> Job Control

    Both jobs should be visible

    Click start

    Leave the computer alone to complete this task and when all jobs are done, you can delete "first pass.avi" and "second pass.avi" will be your super small HD rip!



    Some closing comments

    On a 2.6HGz dually the first pass takes like 2-3 times the length of the movie, and the second pass like 3-4 times the length and BD could be shrunk to a lovely 5-8GB with no noticable change to the quality of the image or sound.

    Please feel free to suggest changes to this method or post any comments, feedback or problems. I will try to add screenshots if they're needed, but I hope my descriptions was good enough.

    Thanks to GeeForce11 for all his work towards a good solution and for his help in putting together this tutorial.

    Updated 26/02/2009
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    Thank you for the detailed steps
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    Something else to watch out for... the AC3 in some blu-rays seems to contain only background sound and not the voice sounds.. you will need to make sure you use the correct audio.
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    You mean the commentary audio stream? I've never had such problems with the master audio.
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    On Pirate of the Caribbean for example, the largest audio stream was actually the background sound and music with main acting voices at all... there was a second audio stream which contained the voices, and the background sounds and music.. It seems the background sound is played whilst the "foreign languages" are played over the top if you select another language.

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    Something else to add....

    I took a 1080p xvid I made of American Gangster... and ran it through the DivX converter... the result was the same quality...

    but half the size...

    my 1080p backup is now 3.5Gb...

    Any explination?! I'm baffled..
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    I've had some problems with Transformers when I remux the audio and video they are out of sync when I play back my backup from the hard dusk....suggestions?
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    Originally Posted by stanstan
    Something else to add....

    I took a 1080p xvid I made of American Gangster... and ran it through the DivX converter... the result was the same quality...

    but half the size...

    my 1080p backup is now 3.5Gb...

    Any explination?! I'm baffled..
    Can you do this w/ a .m2ts?
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    MeGUI can do the XviD encoding with no need for VDubMod.
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    Edit the top line to remove the "fps" and "audio" parameters, leaving only the file path
    OpenVirtualDubMod and click File, Open Video, and browse to the .avs file
    Open the .avs file

    I get this error

    Avysinth open failure:
    Script error: syntax error
    <FILEPATH>,line 1, column 0

    Please help, I've been looking for a guide like this for a while and I don't want to give up now. Thanks in advance.
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    Change this example:

    DirectShowSource("C:\BD_DISC\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2t s",fps=23.975,audio=false)
    ...

    TO:

    DirectShowSource("C:\BD_DISC\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2t s")
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    Now I get

    Avisynth open failure:
    Avisynth error: YV12 images for output must have a width
    divisible by 4 (use crop)!

    I used auto crop like the guide said.

    Thanks in advance.
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    When you auto crop in meGUI either check out the mod16 box or adjust the crop numbers manually up or down 2 digits to be dividable by 4.

    For example if auto crop gives you 0,140,0,142 (1920x798) change it manually to 0,140,0,140 (1920x800) OR 0,142,0,142 (1920x796) that the final resolution to be a multiplier of four.
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    Ok, the file went from 33.5GB to 7.70GB.
    The file plays fine with no difference in audio or video.
    BUT, the audio is not synced, it starts out with a 2 sec delay and ends with a 7 sec delay.
    I'll try to redo everything and see if it gets fixed.
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    Check the specs of the original m2ts "eac3to xxxxx.m2ts" and see if the length of the movie matches the length of the demuxed audio and also the length of the converted video. If one of them is off, encode it again, something very unusual must of happened during conversion, unless your source m2ts is corrupted and needs to re ripped.
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    Movie came out like crap. RipBot worked better but it ends with .mp4
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    The quality depends on the bitrate used. What's the size of the 2 files and the bitrate in both cases?
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    Did everything exactly as the tutorial showed.

    The second pass ended up as a .divx avi but was 24gb.

    Not sure what happened.
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    Something must of went wrong, and you should of made .avi file and not .divx. I've did this hundreds of times, no problems...

    Make sure you have all the latest versions of all the programs installed. Also CCCP is unnecessary already since ffdshow contains all the codecs you need.

    This method with XviD encoding is like 25-50% faster on my "old PC" than ripbot/meGUI H264 encoding.
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    I get to this point:



    Select the audio (AVI Audio Stream) and click disable (because we don't want it to take extra time space for the 1st pass conversion) and click OK

    From the menu bar click Video -> Compression and in the list scroll down and select XviD


    and I don't see the XviD option ... what could be causing this?

    Thanks!
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    Please feel free to suggest changes to this method or post any comments, feedback or problems. I will add screenshots if they're needed, but I hope my descriptions was good enough.

    Screenshots would be awesome when you can find the time! Thanks for the hard work in figuring this stuff out for noobs like me!!
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    Originally Posted by rugby lock
    From the menu bar click Video -> Compression and in the list scroll down and select XviD [/i]

    and I don't see the XviD option ... what could be causing this?

    Thanks!
    You don't have a standalone XviD codec installed for encoding. Have to download and install the XviD v1.2 Codec that VDubMod should see it when you scroll thru the installed codecs. The codecs included in the ffdshow codec (filter) pack are not visible here.
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    Thanks for the quick reply!!!! I'll download that, install it and give it another go tonight!!
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    I couldn't find where you set the 8000 bit rate ... where is it?

    But I'm running it now anyhow to see how it ends up.

    Thanks again for the help
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    2nd Pass:

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    From the menu bar click Video -> Compression and in the list scroll down and select XviD
    Click Configure in the bottom right
    Select Profile as HDTV
    Select Encoding Type as "twopass - 2nd pass"
    Select Bitrate as 8000kps and click OK, OK
    "

    Under "encoding type" you have to type in the bitrate you want. If the button says "quality" click it and will change to "bitrate".
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    stanstan, I made some minor changes/add-ons to the guide, you could copy-paste it to the first post.

    Edit: Edited Guide re-posted to the first post.
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    Has anyone found a solution to streaming large files over a network to PS3?
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    Originally Posted by stanstan
    Has anyone found a solution to streaming large files over a network to PS3?
    HOW LARGE ARE WE TALKING? BECAUSE WITH WIRELESS IT IS HARDER THAN WITH WIRED CONNECTIONS.

    and by the looks of it the way this guide shows us how to really mux and smoosh a bd it would be safe to say that the files would not be that large?

    did you ever get my pm about using the divx codec for muxing after to get a smaller file size?

    thanks
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    Originally Posted by stanstan
    Assuming:

    Windows machine running XP SP2+ or Vista SP1+
    Blu-ray compatible drive

    Tools:
    AnyDVD HD
    BDInfo
    SupRip
    TSMuxeR
    eac3to
    meGUI
    VDubMod

    I would also suggest making sure you have the latest versions of Haali Media Splitter, Avisynth, FFdshow, XviD codec installed.

    Acroynms:
    BD - Blu-ray Disc


    Preperation:

    If installed, remove Microsoft Groove before starting.

    Install all applications.

    I recommend keeping all rips and working files on a seperate partition free of other data.



    Step 1: Ripping

    Right click on AnyDVD icon in the System Tray (in the Windows Taskbar)

    Click "Rip Video DVD to Harddisk..."

    Select source and destination and click Copy DVD

    Leave the computer alone to complete this task



    Step 2: "Muxing"

    The video and audio on a BD is contained in the \BDMV\STREAM or \BDMV\STREAMS folder in files with the extension .m2ts and \BDMV\PLAYLIST contains .mpls files which reference the streams.

    The main movie on a BD is usually contained in one .m2ts file. You will be able to see which file by either running each of them in PowerDVD (the easiest way is by dragging and dropping them into the player) or by arranging them in size order. The biggest file will "probably" be the main feature.

    If there's no 20+GB m2ts file it means that the movie is split up into multiple small files. You can get a list of files the movie is put together or the playlist file with BDInfo or "eac3to BD_Folder" You can load the specified .mpls file into TSmuxeR and select "m2ts muxing" start muxing and it will create one large m2ts file with the whole movie.

    Get the list of all the available the streams in the m2ts file: "eac3to Movie.m2ts".

    Create the preferred audio track: "eac3to Movie.m2ts 2: Audio.ac3 -640" where the preferred audio is stream #2 in the m2ts file and to be encoded to 640kbps AC3.

    If you want to make subtitle(s): "eac3to Movie.m2ts 5: Subtitle.sup" where the preferred subtitle is stream #5. SupRip will convert this created .sup file to .srt to be used with multimedia players.



    Step 3: Preparing for Step 4

    Step 4 will require us to create an AVISynth script file, but we can use MeGUI to do this for us, or type the whole .avs file in notepad.

    Open MeGUI and select from the menu bar, Tools -> AVS Script Creator and load the movie m2ts.

    Select autocrop to remove the black parts (because they just waste space). The cropped resolution should be mod16 compatible. For example if auto crop gives you 0,140,0,142 (1920x798) change it manually to 0,140,0,140 (1920x800) OR 0,142,0,142 (1920x796) that the final resolution to be a multiplier of four.

    You could also, should you wish, reduce the resolution at this point. This also needs to be mod16 compatible, the final resolution needs to be dividable by 4.

    Save the .avs file to your working directory.

    Now browse to the working directory and open the .avs file in notepad (or whatever you prefer).

    Edit the top line to remove the "fps" and "audio" parameters, leaving only the file path. Example: from "DirectShowSource("C:\BD_DISC\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2 ts",fps=23.975,audio=false)" create "DirectShowSource("C:\BD_DISC\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2 ts")".

    Save the .avs file changes[/list].



    Step 4: Finishing it off (Dubbing)

    OpenVirtualDubMod and click File, Open Video, and browse to the .avs file

    Open the .avs file

    We will now do a "double pass XviD encoding @ 8000kbps"... this will now be explained fully

    For the first pass we disable the audio and save the file as "first pass.avi"

    From the menu bar click Streams -> Stream Lists.

    Select the audio (AVI Audio Stream) and click disable (because we don't want it to take extra time space for the 1st pass conversion) and click OK

    From the menu bar click Video -> Compression and in the list scroll down and select XviD

    Click Configure in the bottom right

    Select Profile as HDTV

    Select Encoding Type as "twopass - 1st pass" and click OK, OK

    From the menu bar click File -> Save as

    Check "don't run this job now, add it to job control...", use filename "first pass.avi" and click save

    Nothing will happen just yet

    For the second pass we add the created audio back in and create the final AVI with XviD/AC3

    From the menu bar click Streams -> Stream Lists -> Add

    Add the previously created AC3 audio in step 2, leave the original audio stream from m2ts disabled, then click OK,

    From the menu bar click Video -> Compression and in the list scroll down and select XviD

    Click Configure in the bottom right

    Select Profile as HDTV

    Select Encoding Type as "twopass - 2nd pass"

    Select Bitrate as 8000kps and click OK, OK

    From the menu bar click File -> Save as

    Check "don't run this job now, add it to job control...", use filename "second pass.avi" and click save



    Step 5: Do IT!

    From the menu bar click File -> Job Control

    Both jobs should be visible

    Click start

    Leave the computer alone to complete this task and when all jobs are done, you can delete "first pass.avi" and "second pass.avi" will be your super small HD rip!



    Some closing comments

    On a 2.6HGz dually the first pass takes like 2-3 times the length of the movie, and the second pass like 3-4 times the length and BD could be shrunk to a lovely 5-8GB with no noticable change to the quality of the image or sound.

    Please feel free to suggest changes to this method or post any comments, feedback or problems. I will try to add screenshots if they're needed, but I hope my descriptions was good enough.

    Thanks to GeeForce11 for all his work towards a good solution and for his help in putting together this tutorial.

    Updated 26/02/2009

    just wondering if it would eleviate a few steps to use this front load gui http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=25818 (clown-bd)


    in order to take care of the eac3to and the tsmuxer portion?

    or is it easier to just use the programs individually as depicted in the tutorial?

    thanks
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    Has anyone found a solution to streaming large files over a network to PS3?
    I use PS3MediaServer for streaming to the PS3. If you can set up QoS between your server and the PS3 you will get some better results. I can stream 4GB M2TS files, but I would not try to stream full HD bitrates over wireless.

    One thing I have noticed though, A Divx encoded file will stream far better than an mp4 file encoded at the same bitrates. The PS3 seems to be able to buffer the Divx AVI better than it does MP4s. Even M2TS files stream better than the MP4 container. Was hoping recent updates would fix this, but not so far. I usually end up doing a copy to the HDD and play from there.

    Something else I will be experimenting with down the track is different IP ranges. I currently have the server (desktop) and PS3 on fixed IPs at the base of the range, and allocate a second range further up the IP list for DHCP for our laptops (3 in the house now). However some recent research I have been doing seems to indicate that for some routers, the lower IP range may not be as stable for wireless, and that using a fixed address range above 128 produces a more stable connection for streaming. When I get some time (when these bloody bushfires are out) I will reconfigure my network and have a play.
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