problem converting to mp4 with super

[cduval04]

I seem to be having a problem w/ the latest verison of super and vista. (I run it as admin as advised cuz when I dont I get an error every time). running as admin, it seems to work fine for converting except when I try to convert to an mp4 video file. it doesnt give me an error and it says it finshed fine, and I can even play it by double clicking on the finished file, but when I tried to put it on my ipod itunes said "this file was not transferred to the ipod because it cannot be played on this ipod." I said, ok thats weird, it plays fine. Then I got the idea to analyze it with avi codec and avi codec doesnt recognize it as a multimedia file (when you click "select file" and browse to the folder with the file, the newly converted mp4 file doesnt show up, you have to go down to the "file type" drop-down and select "all files" instead of "multimedia files.") then avi codec reads both the video and audio codecs as unknown. This only occurs with mp4 files converted w/ super. (unfortunatley for me, mp4 is all I use cuz I convert a lot of movies for ipod) I really want movies on my ipod and I like super b/c it is the only program I have found that successfully stretches the widescreen picture to stretch over the 4:3 pod screen a few other programs I have say they can do it, but I've never been able to get them to - I hate the black bars on top and bottom.

I have k-lite codec pack full verison installed and this has never happened before, even the last time I used this version of super, so I think it is something I have done/installed/changed on my computer since the last time I used super.

Any ideas why super successfully converts and plays mp4s, but are not transferrable to ipod and the codec is not recognized??

below is my screenshot of avicodec w/ an mp4 file:

----------------------------update 12/15 10:15pm-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I just checked it out with gspot and it says the codec status is undetermined. Do I not have the H.264/Mpeg4 codec? I thought that came with itunes?? maybe I need to update to latest verison of itunes?? help!

[guns1inger]

The iPod only plays a subset of mp4 files. I also suspect iTunes is somewhat of a liar, as I can happily download using the For your iPod link at quicktime.com, a trailer through iTunes, and without fail, every single time, iTunes will refuse to copy it to my iPod without re-encoding it first.

As for codecs, all iTunes gives you is Quicktime, which is, well, quicktime. If you want more universal mp4 codecs you need ffdshow (not k-lite)

[cduval04]

it seems as if it is something to do w/ the current version of super. I analyzed w/ gspot one of the files that wont transfer to the ipod gen5 and one of the file that will and the only difference seems to be in the output container.

for the file that does work, the container box read this: (this file was encoded w/ build 22)
M4V : Apple iTunes Video (.M4V) Video
- M4A : Apple iTunes AAC-LC (.M4A) Audio
- mp42: MP4 v2 [ISO 14496-14]
- isom: MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
Recommended Display Size: 320 x 240
Created: 2007 Apr 26 21:29:33
Modified: 2007 Apr 27 04:23:29


and for the file that wont transfer/play on ipod, the container box says this: (this file was encoded w/ current verison build 33)
isom: MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
Recommended Display Size: 320 x 240
Created: 2008 Dec 16 04:14:33
Modified: 2008 Dec 16 04:14:33

I am assuming that this (the absence of the first 3 lines) is the reason it will not transfer to ipod, but why is super doing this in new versions? Is it because super is now tailored for gen6 ipods???

any suggestions, pls post...I have tried everything I can think of.

---------------------------------------------------------update 12/16/08 3:20pm------------------------------------------------
it seems as if I found my exact issue in this forum post http://www.w3exchange.com/t3630-cant-put-converted-videos-into-my-ipod-anymore.html. It has to do with the h.264 codec and super's accomodation for the newer ipod classic and touch. There is really no answer except it is a bug in super and it has been said that the next version of super will address it. There is a workaround though - if you select the mpeg-4 video codec instead of the h.264 codec, then leave everything elese the same, it copies to the ipod fine. I guess those of us with the original 5g ipod wont be using the h.264 codec with super until further notice....