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    I have a All In Wonder HD card. My VCR only has RCA outputs but my AIW only has a coaxial input. I bought a RF Modulator to convert the RCA to coaxial but I can't seem to get the capture to work. The programs I have used (Pinnacle Studio 12 and AMD MMC) do not detect any inputs.

    Any suggestions on what I need to do to get this to work?

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    You need the daughter card to capture from analog devices.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=14-129-115-S05&ISList=14-129-115...d%20-%20Retail



    Not sure where to buy it if it didn't come with your card.
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    There were many AIW models and each differed for I/O.

    Give more info about AIW

    Model number
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    Radeon driver version
    MMC software version

    Also computer info

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    I see you are using Vista Ultimate and have 2GB memory.
    Early AIW cards lack Vista drivers. You may need a dual boot to XP.
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    I have the VisionTek All-in-Wonder HD Radeon 3650 w/512MB
    It has coaxial and HDMI inputs and DVI output.
    Radeon Driver version 8.503.0.0
    ATI Catalyst MEdia Center version 1.04310

    CPU Athlon 64 3000+ 1.81 GHz
    2GB Memory
    Vista Ultimate

    The TV tuner works fine. I am able to watch HD when hooking to an antenae via coaxial. The problem I am having is getting the vcr to show up when going from an rca output on vcr to coaxial input on the card. I can't get a stream to show up when using the rf modulator to convert the rca to coaxial.
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    Originally Posted by ukcolonelcolin
    The problem I am having is getting the vcr to show up when going from an rca output on vcr to coaxial input on the card.
    I don't believe it will register that way. In order to be sure you can get the input working you need the adapter that Darrell S mentioned:

    Originally Posted by darrels
    You need the daughter card to capture from analog devices.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=14-129-115- ... -%20Retail
    I have the aiw hd card from visiontek and I also bought the adapter card seperately. I can record with svideo or rca no problem. Also please note those are component OUTPUT jacks not input so don't get your hopes up for component recording - this unit will not do that.

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    I did have a thought about this. You are trying to hook up a vcr's coax output to the input of the aiw coax jack correct? So you need to think of this like the computer is now the tv. At least in the US we have to put the tv on either channel 3 or 4 in order to view a coax input from a vcr. When you have the input connected from the vcr jack are you viewing the aiw software on channel 3 or 4? That would be the equivalent input channel on analog at least. Again vary the situation for UK and Pal but I believe the setup should be similar in any case.

    If that doesn't work than in all likelihood you'll have to purchase the add on card. It's about 30.00 USD if memory serves. You can buy it directly from visiontek at their website if you don't want to buy it second hand. Oh and it will come with the ati theater video remote control and usb ir adapter as well
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    Thanks for all the help. By the way I am in the US. I realized that that rf modulator would be on channel 3 but the software I was using would not let me change channels, it would just flat out say that it could not find any stream available.

    What software would be best suited for me to select a channel?

    I will look for the addon card since it might be a good idea to get anyway. I'm just hoping I can get this working with what I have as it should work. I'm not sure the addin card will help me either as the only thing I have output wise on the vcr is RCA output.
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    Originally Posted by ukcolonelcolin
    By the way I am in the US
    Sorry about that.

    Originally Posted by ukcolonelcolin
    What software would be best suited for me to select a channel?
    You can actually use the freeware virtualdub. However you can only capture in avi with it. it can do divx/xvid capturing of course.

    Originally Posted by ukcolonelcolin
    I'm not sure the addin card will help me either as the only thing I have output wise on the vcr is RCA output.
    Well the adapter card should come with a 7pin svideo to rca adapter to allow you to capture from rca. That is what I have with it. Also you'd need to get seperately one of those rca to headphone y adapters so you can get the stereo rca output to combine to a headphone jack. Those are pretty cheap these days.
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    I'm not sure the addin card will help me either as the only thing I have output wise on the vcr is RCA output.
    The addon card should come with an adapter that connects to the S-Video port and an audio splitter to connect the RCA patch cords. The ATI Catalyst Media Center software that came with the card should allow you to capture from VHS. I believe it is Cyberlink Power Cinema.

    I can't say for sure since I don't own this card but did buy the HD 650 TV Wonder which is part of this card but exchanged it for the Hauppauge HVR1800 since the 650 didn't support QAM in XP.
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    Thanks for all of your help everyone. I will purchase the addin card and go from there.
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    Originally Posted by ukcolonelcolin
    Thanks for all of your help everyone. I will purchase the addin card and go from there.
    Good luck. That should get you going in the right direction. You will be able to use the svideo adapter to use the rca outputs from your vcr. That should help in your endeavor.
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  11. The composite to RF modulator should have worked and you should be able to use the same software you successfully used to view the tuner (RF) input, just set it to channel 3. Connect the RF modulator to the TV and tune to channel 3. Do you see a picture?
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    Originally Posted by jagabo
    The composite to RF modulator should have worked and you should be able to use the same software you successfully used to view the tuner (RF) input, just set it to channel 3. Connect the RF modulator to the TV and tune to channel 3. Do you see a picture?
    Yeah that was my thinking too. Every program I used said it could not detect any input. Any suggestions on programs to use to view channel 3?

    I'm still going to get the addin card since its not that expensive and I get a remote etc.
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  13. What did you use to view channel 3 before? You should be able to use the same program. Did you verify the RF modulator is working by viewing its output on a TV?
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    Originally Posted by ukcolonelcolin
    I'm still going to get the addin card since its not that expensive and I get a remote etc.
    Just make sure you buy from visiontek directly. I can't guarentee that a third party distributer will include the remote. They should if they buy directly from visiontek. However it may be the adapter only. If you do buy from another website besides visiontek make sure you read the fineprint and see if the remote is included. FYI.

    EDIT - jagabo is right you should be able to use the same program to view the rf signal. Did you check to see if the rf converter is set to ch3? It might have a ch3-4 slider switch. Verify the switch is set to 3 and the device is plugged in if its a powered unit.
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    You should be using the software that came with the card, or a later date version if required for VISTA.

    Try hooking it up thru the RF modulatar via RF IN to the card, and while playing a tape, do a scan of the analog antenna channels. If it scans all analog and digital channels at the same time, do a re-scan.

    For RF output from the RF modulator, use channel 3 or 4.....which ever one IS NOT BEING USED FOR LOCAL ANALOG BROADCASTING.

    Are you sure the card has an analog tuner?
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