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  1. watchable?

    All videos i burn on cd are very watchable

    Even those who dl TS for example, this has been proven by many people who have seen in person movies i have encoded that were dl in vcd mpg and reencoded in svcd at res of 480x480 and onto 1 cd, that my quality looks better than original.

    Those types of movies are easier to do.

    Now, even when i encode avi dvd rips, the quality is over vhs in a heart beat, so my movies are very watchable.

    It's just well, lets just go ahead and stop replyin to this topic for now on ok.

    I cant test anything until i buy me a new HD anyway which is real soon cuz i have no space left right now.
    When i get the new one, then i will have a chance to test more often.
    (120 gb interal, 80 gb firewire) i should have enough space, hehe
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  2. Even those who dl TS for example, this has been proven by many people who have seen in person movies i have encoded that were dl in vcd mpg and reencoded in svcd at res of 480x480 and onto 1 cd, that my quality looks better than original.
    just NOT POSSIBLE. you're going from VCD res (352x240) onto SVCD res (480x480) and you're saying it's better than the original?

    ever heard of that saying, 'nothing comes from nothing'?
    you can't 'extract' hidden information. in other words, you may be able to apply filters or what-have-you to the re-encode, but it won't be BETTER.
    btw, TS movies are not really ideal sources. garbage in, garbage out.

    perhaps you should really consider vitualis' suggestion that you take out "Video Performance Master" in your profile
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  3. thats just your technical thinking

    Thats what becomes of the great quality, is perfecting TS and SCRs.

    Say what u want, i know what i know, and people like what they see and i dont care what u believe.
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    Sean--

    When you obtain a bigger hard drive and encode some clips, I think it would be fitting to offer some one-minute samples for people to view. I ask this not becuase I am interested in cramming one movie onto a single CD-R. Rather, I would like to objectivly review your methods since I have been reading a lot of jaw flapping and have not seen results to substantiate these claims, which to some of us are outrageous.
    Did you read my post on data entropy?? Doing what you just said is not possible. It is akin to saying "I just downloaded this 32kbps (see: telephone quality) mp3 file that I reencoded to sound like CD-Quality." NOT POSSIBLE. If you were using a direct ~9800kbps max. mpeg-2 stream of a video clip, there are ways of logrithmicly extrapolating data to get a slightly improved picture (DVD2, blue laser players will have this feature). BUT this is a computational process, not a matter of simply playing with filters in Tmpgenc. Also, when you say "very watchable", that is again highly subjective. I can guarantee that anything less than ~2200kbps is going to look like shit to my eyes, wheras you probably would think my 3-CD SVCD rips are a waste of space.
    Once again, I am not partaking in the constant "ShiZZZoN" bashing--I have told you the following things becuase I am a scientist and your claims are scientifically unsound and subjectivly flawed. When I see an actual sample, I, as well as other users here, can give you objective reviews of your method and put this overly-debated topic to rest. Please let us know when your clips are ready.
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  5. thank you for explaining that in more technical terms, videoguy79.
    perhaps you can educate sean more about the science behind 'data entropy'.

    It is akin to saying "I just downloaded this 32kbps (see: telephone quality) mp3 file that I reencoded to sound like CD-Quality." NOT POSSIBLE.
    i personally think TS and SCR vcds are a waste of time. the only real sound basis for encoding is if you have as pure a source as possible (ie, DVDs or digital video streams).

    i, too, am trying not to hop on the "shizzzon bashing" bandwagon, but some of his claims are just plain absurd, and as you put it, outrageous.
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  6. Originally Posted by sean madison
    For one, i use d2v and not converting to avi cuz i dont wanna lose quality before it gets to tmpgenc. Therefore, if used vdub, i would have to convert to avi, do it, then resave and encode AGIAN into avi then encode AGAIN in tmpgenc.
    Learning the frameserving process would help you immensely, I think. And an intermediate conversion to raw or lossless-compressed AVI will not cause you to lose any quality.

    2nd problem-
    I have used noise reduciton in tmpgenc before, its totally lame and sucks.

    It smooths too many things out as being all one color rather than many.

    I will NOT use noise reduction, sorry
    Sounds like you applied it far too aggressively. I would strongly suggest you go back and play around with this filter some more, IMHO it is one of the best newbie-friendly tools for what it does.
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    I couldn't agree more.
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