best vista firewall

[johns0]

At the risk of repeating myself...For the hassles and probable slowdows you'll get with any software firewall, buy a router. Wireless users, set up WEP or WAP security, and toss your software FW.

No need to do that,routers can cause problems too,no issues at all with my sw firewall.

[redwudz]

My hardware router does several things. It uses NAT (Network Address Translation) which puts my computers on a Intranet, so they aren't exposed directly to the Internet. It supplies separate addresses for my computers, and it blocks two of them from Internet access (Servers). But it doesn't block malware. I use a software firewall for that, along with other antimalware programs.

Yes, you can do quite a bit of configuration with the router settings, but it isn't continually updated like my software firewall and it's a lot harder to set up. JMO, but you need both a hardware router and a software firewall.

MS will tell you the Vista firewall blocks outgoing packets, but that's not entirely true. To keep their business customers happy, they made outgoing blocking pretty much useless. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/soa/Vista-firewall-shackled-due-to-customer-dema...9252954,00.htm

[isogonic]

you can do quite a bit of configuration with the router settings, but it isn't continually updated like my software firewall and it's a lot harder to set up

its ( a router) not supposed to be updated, its not application based. harder to set up?a software firewall is only useful when the malware is already present on your computer and by then for most users------ its too late.

[Dv8ted2]

Spybot is outdated tech.

It is updated continuously.

It is up to version 1.6.

You must be joking.

I use a router and the Vista SP1 firewall.

[Poppa_Meth]

The Spybot program is updated, but the technology it uses it far behind other applications now. It's scanning engine just isn't up to par. Pretty much any PC I scan with Spybot now mainly picks up tracking cookies. Run SAS on the same system and it can find things Spybot doesn't even see, much less do anything about. Spybot is still decent. But there are much better options now.

[Dv8ted2]

The Spybot program is updated, but the technology it uses it far behind other applications now. It's scanning engine just isn't up to par. Pretty much any PC I scan with Spybot now mainly picks up tracking cookies. Run SAS on the same system and it can find things Spybot doesn't even see, much less do anything about. Spybot is still decent. But there are much better options now.

You must be using an old version, because I use it all the time on client's computers to get rid of products such as antivirus XP2008 and so forth.

Let's just agree to disagree.

This has veered off course...

The topic is firewalls, not antispyware programs

[reboot]

Yeah, what redwudz said!!!

johns0, what, specifically, don't you like about routers? I assume you had a difficult time setting one up once, and have hated them ever since?
Enjoy your SW firewall, until some smart hacker finds a way through it.
Can't be done using a router/firewall. Read what redwudz says above.
I also use anti-malware/spyware, but no software firewall, because a firewall does not stop malware/spyware from infecting your computer. It may stop information from being sent OUT, but even that's doubtful with most firewalls only concerned with what's comming IN.
Try SuperAntiSpyware, or Malwarebytes, or yes, even an updated Spybot S&D.

[johns0]

Yeah, what redwudz said!!!

johns0, what, specifically, don't you like about routers? I assume you had a difficult time setting one up once, and have hated them ever since?
Enjoy your SW firewall, until some smart hacker finds a way through it.
Can't be done using a router/firewall. Read what redwudz says above.
I also use anti-malware/spyware, but no software firewall, because a firewall does not stop malware/spyware from infecting your computer. It may stop information from being sent OUT, but even that's doubtful with most firewalls only concerned with what's comming IN.
Try SuperAntiSpyware, or Malwarebytes, or yes, even an updated Spybot S&D.

I do a lot of service calls and routers cause a lot of problems due to bad firmware and design in a lot of models and makes,i dont need a router cause i know how to protect my computer from hackers and dont assume i will get hacked and dont know much about routers.

[Dv8ted2]

Yeah, what redwudz said!!!

johns0, what, specifically, don't you like about routers? I assume you had a difficult time setting one up once, and have hated them ever since?
Enjoy your SW firewall, until some smart hacker finds a way through it.
Can't be done using a router/firewall. Read what redwudz says above.
I also use anti-malware/spyware, but no software firewall, because a firewall does not stop malware/spyware from infecting your computer. It may stop information from being sent OUT, but even that's doubtful with most firewalls only concerned with what's comming IN.
Try SuperAntiSpyware, or Malwarebytes, or yes, even an updated Spybot S&D.

I do a lot of service calls and routers cause a lot of problems due to bad firmware and design in a lot of models and makes,i dont need a router cause i know how to protect my computer from hackers and dont assume i will get hacked and dont know much about routers.

What do you want to know about routers? I will be happy to teach you.

[reboot]

I have never had a router give problems because of "bad firmware". I have had problems because of shoddy upgrade procedures, and flashes with the WRONG firmware, and always on the rebranded junk. Buy a Linksys or D-Link, and you're probably good for 5 years or more.

"i know how to protect my computer from hackers and dont assume i will get hacked"...

You're precisely the type of person that WILL get hacked, because you assume you're protected with some software.

As Dv8ted2 mentioned above, what would you like to know, I'd be happy to teach you.

[johns0]

I already know how to set up routers including wireless with encrypted keys,please dont assume i know nothing and you would teach me,i have set up many routers on service calls and most work with no problems,its the low cost routers that give the most problems and i remember those more so i guess i'm a little biased.

What i meant to say before is i know a lot about routers and dont assume i dont know much about them.

[MJA]

What do you want to know about routers? I will be happy to teach you

I have one
linksys Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp1
under Firewall Protection (SPI is already on )

is it necessary/ok to turn on

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[reboot]

Proxy, only if you're using one.
Cookies are harmless, ignore it.
Java is necessary for some websites, your call.
ActiveX is necessary for some websites, your call.

IE already has filters in place for ActiveX, as does Firefox.
Java has it's own settings, go into control panel and look.

[Tbag]

Where is this thread going?

[MJA]

Where is this thread going?

to your other thread "divx dvd player"

[Tbag]

Where is this thread going?

to your other thread "divx dvd player"

I wish it did

I still havent found it anywhere

[MJA]

pull the trigger and get it over man.lol

[Tbag]

I cant let it go

[MJA]

do u have a 360/ps3 ?

[Tbag]

na, not really a gamer.

I emailed them again and they said some stores should be able to order the unit so I might ring a few stores tomorrow and ask them.

[Dv8ted2]

I already know how to set up routers including wireless with encrypted keys,please dont assume i know nothing and you would teach me,i have set up many routers on service calls and most work with no problems,its the low cost routers that give the most problems and i remember those more so i guess i'm a little biased.

What i meant to say before is i know a lot about routers and dont assume i dont know much about them.

Cool, but for the record, the only time I have seen firmware be the culprit is if someone tried to do the update without being hardwired.

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[johns0]

There was one cheapo router that needed firmware update cause it kept going offline,think it was a soho and all of them needed to be updated.