Question about certain dos commands

[AlanHK]

Ubunto still requires some finesse to get it to delete ntfs files when xp Windows has crashed. The following from the site:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-y...dows-computer/
has the strangest English wording I have seen in a while, and I cannot follow it.

Most people will not have that issue.
Forum posts naturally emphasise problems. For most, it's just insert CD, boot and two minutes later you get a desktop showing all your disks and files.

[INFRATOM]

Kernel is the core of windows that runs in high priority so if a virus or a program is running within kernel explorer will never get to it if coded and it becomes invisible .. virus usually get to your C drive or boot sector. Reformating the drive will get rid of it, many spy programs like rootkits will be invisible and even some parts visible if you don't have the step by step procedure you could mess up your windows and it will not work after that. Some will write a file or program in a different format that even if you see it you are not able to delete it because windows command will not work on it for example if a small apple partition is created windows cannot touch it. Try deleting the small partition on these USB sticks see if you can the only way is to reformat it or use its own program to remove it. You can browse and try using Ubuntu but you have to know what you are looking for and where exactly it is. You can get more info by going to www.sysinternals.com or http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx overall it is easier to backup .. reformat and reinstall. It takes 4 to 5 hours at the most you have been downloading Ubuntu since yesterday. It worth having Ubuntu but for your problem reformat gives you peace at heart.

[Nelson37]

Ok, now read these slowly and carefully.

1. A boot disk is a boot disk. Should work on any PC that can read the disk.

2. The ISO for the UBCD + the NTFS4DOS program would be about the same size as the Ubuntu CD you are having trouble downloading.

3. Did you read the FIRST FREAKING LINE in the error screen about "unclean shutdown"?

I'm having very serious doubts about whether or not you should be attempting this.

[jimdagys]

I don't understand this statement:

The ISO for the UBCD + the NTFS4DOS program would be about the same size as the Ubuntu CD

because a torrent site lists the iso at about 6MB (and gives clear directions how to burn the CD):

What is included:
-ISO of NTFS4DOS filesystem that is to be burned to a CD using
UltraISO. (UltraISO is the only one that I found to be stable
through the process)
-BIF (bootimage file) that is also used in UltraISO to map the
bootable portion of the CD _IF_ the ISO doesn't contain it.
(I only tried with the BIF AND ISO, not just the ISO, I only
needed one CD. So why try many times?)
-ntfs_h.exe - This is the freeware downloaded software from
Avira (http://www.free-av.com/) that was used to create the
original boot floppy that was later turned into the ISO image
for CD. If you JUST need a floppy diskette, then this is really
all you need.

Instructions:

-Simply use the ISO in UltraISO (the only one i found to be stable
through this process) to open the image.
-Load the BIF as the boot file (Bootable > Load Boot File...)
-Burn...

[Nelson37]

So, you have discovered that a DIFFERENT iso image plus a DIFFERENT ntfs reader would have a DIFFERENT size?
Amazing.

OK, try this. Get a DOS bootable disk. Get MagicISO. Put NTFS4DOS onto the disk, or image. Create CD.

I suggest NTFS4DOS because I've used it many times and I know it works. Ditto with the rest of the method.

I put the NTFS reader on the UBCD disk as it had several other handy utilities. I use the DOS disk image for a disk clone program intended for users. The linux boot images are too scary for average people.

[Webster]

So, you have discovered that a DIFFERENT iso image plus a DIFFERENT ntfs reader would have a DIFFERENT size?
Amazing.
.

has the strangest English wording I have seen in a while, and I cannot follow it.
.

It is just Linux way to telling you how to mount a drive manually in Ubuntu. You have to know SOME basic command in Linux to use it

Personally, I would have use Knoppix as AlanHK suggested instead of Ubuntu (since there is a bigger learning curve with Ubuntu). Knoppix (or any of its variations) will mount your drive upon bootup.


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