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    Originally Posted by guns1inger
    Sequential access, low capacity, low bandwidth, no error correction, high drop out rate as it ages, low fidelity, high porn content.

    In this line up it seems like its a con instead of a pro
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    @fulcilives - thanks for the peter jackson info. I knew he did frightners (michael j fox was in it right?). I didn't know his other stuff.
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    The other film missing from John's list is Heavenly Creatures, which is an odd blend of psychological thriller and dark fantasy. Well worth digging out. This bridges the gap between his early splatter and latter works. He even used a Quantel Paintbox system for some early digital work.
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    Hey has anyone here gotten into those weird CRITTERS or CHUCKY movies from the 90's or whatever??? I mean those were pathetic looking from the trailers. Did they have anything in them???
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    Never been a fan of the CHUCKY movies however I do remember that the first movie was a hit with the mainstream. People that normally didn't talk horror movies were seeing it and talking about it. I'm not saying they are bad movies per se just never been a fan myself.

    I recall liking the first CRITTERS but never saw the sequels (well I think I saw #2 and didn't like it if I recall correctly). The monsters were kewl and were created by the same "puppet guys" that would later go on to do the effects as well as direct the cult film KILLER KLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE which is a fun movie.

    Random I know but an 80's flick that is great that just popped into my head is NIGHT OF THE COMET which was not readily available on DVD until about a year ago. That's worth checking out. Another fun 80's film that is still unavailable but worth checking out is NIGHT OF THE CREEPS. It was actually on Comcast FEARNET a month or two ago in SD and HD (FEARNET is a Comcast ON DEMAND horror thing). I should have recorded it but I didn't although I did watch it (was still fun after all these years).

    Also I guess if you are to mention the CRITTERS movies you have to mention THE GHOULIES which was a cheap yet fun EMPIRE PICTURES movie from the 80's which I always thought was their answer to GRIMLINS/CRITTERS.

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    One of the scariest movie of all time for me is, THE EXORCIST...great flick....
    Exorcist 2 (sucked), 3 was good,but far from great,IMO......
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    Originally Posted by DereX888

    Originally Posted by dLee
    My current favorite is "They Live" by John Carpenter. For me, it plays more like a documentary on everyday life in the US rather than a horror film.
    LOL so true
    Great flick, but I always thought it is sci-fi first rather than horror.
    I agree, but the horror came with the realization that the metaphor is closer to fact than fiction.
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    Another fun 80's film that is still unavailable but worth checking out is NIGHT OF THE CREEPS.
    Love that movie!!! I've been patiently waiting for this on DVD... and waiting and waiting...

    Other good (or original) films:
    BODY PARTS
    TALES FROM THE CRYPT: DEMON KNIGHT
    (believe it or not)
    BAD MOON -- (everyone I know snorts when I say that... then they think about it for a minute and agree with me)
    PRISON
    STREET TRASH
    (for original Jackson-style fun-gore)
    OMEN: the original trilogy
    THE BLOB: the original is great... the remake from the 80s rocks
    TRICK OR TREAT-- for originality and appearances by Gene Simmons and Ozzy ... the Fastway soundtrack wasn't bad
    INVADERS FROM MARS-- 80s version... arguably sci-fi but I see it as more of a monster movie. It terrifies my daughter but she keeps watching it.
    HIGHWAY TO HELL-- original and fun (traffic is stopped on the road to hell while repairs are made by the Good Intentions Paving Company... appearances by Ben Stiller, Lita Ford... a host of others...Patrick Bergin as a Lucifer that shows pain and loss at being separated from God... awesome original film! WHY ISN'T THIS ON DVD???

    Night of the Creeps would have been on the list but, as always, FulciLives beat me to it!!! I think he reads my mind sometimes ... I live close enough to him for him to do that.
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  10. Two fun horror flicks from 1985...

    The Return of the Living Dead

    Fright Night
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    Two fun horror flicks from 1985...
    Oh boy weren't they just? . Return II was not bad either - the rest ugh. Anyone remember Night of the Creeps? -edit- already mentioned twice.

    I really got off on the whole "video nasty" era back then, but my hands down favourite was made a decade later - Dellamorte Dellamore.

    These days I'm a tad squeamish around gore - go figure
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    Originally Posted by offline
    These days I'm a tad squeamish around gore - go figure
    Maybe they're doing more settle cg stuff to make it nastier???? I don't know as I don't watch em but just a guess.....
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    I chose the "somewhat" answer. I generally don't like hack 'em slash 'em flicks. But I absolutely LOVE horror flicks that rely heavily on suspense. For example, I loved "The Vanishing" with Keifer Sutherland and Jeff Bridges. I also loved "The Exorcist" and the original version of "The Omen" (I've not seen the remake).

    Of course, there are some hack 'em slash 'em flicks that I enjoy for their humor value (grin) ... flicks that are so bad, they're good. The prime example of that is "Dawn Of The Dead." I don't watch it often. But occasionally, I'll get something "meaty" like pepperoni sticks, sit down to watch it, and have a good laugh. And as I munch on the pepperoni, I'll occasionally hum the elevator music that was playing in the shopping mall as the zombies walked around.

    P.S. When "The Exorcist" first came out, I was 23 years old. Because I'd already read the novel and knew it was (in theory) based on a true story, I went into the theater fully prepared to suspend any disbelief. After all, it supposedly REALLY happened. However, I was unprepared for the masterful attention to suspense ... and, to put it bluntly, it scared me s**tless.

    When I got home from the theater late at night, it took me a LONG time to get to sleep ... and was only able to sleep with the lights on (grin). As an agnostic at the time, it "almost" made me religious, hehehehe.

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    Originally Posted by AlecWest
    For example, I loved "The Vanishing" with Keifer Sutherland and Jeff Bridges.
    You should watch the original. It was made in Holland by the same director, but is far smarter and darker than the dumbed down version he created for US market. The original was scary. The remake was, for me at least, laughable (especially the ending, which went in the opposite direction to the original)
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    Originally Posted by guns1inger
    Originally Posted by AlecWest
    For example, I loved "The Vanishing" with Keifer Sutherland and Jeff Bridges.
    You should watch the original. It was made in Holland by the same director, but is far smarter and darker than the dumbed down version he created for US market. The original was scary. The remake was, for me at least, laughable (especially the ending, which went in the opposite direction to the original)
    I was lucky enough to see the original in an "art house" theater when it first came out. Amazing film!

    The remake ... OK except for the subplot of the new girlfriend which of course leads to a radically different ending.

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    I didn't find Jeff Bridges particularly convincing either, which didn't help.

    It was nice to see Street Trash get a mention. One of the better of the Troma stable releases - gross and offensive, but still fun.

    Another that hasn't had a mention is Near Dark, Katherine Bigalow's neo vampire movie with Lance Henrikson and Bill Paxton. Well worth a look.
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    Another foreign film that THE VANISHING reminds me of is NIGHTWATCH. The original was a kewl f'ed up Russian film but then it got remade in the USA a few years later with Ewan McGregor although in this case I liked both but this time around I saw the remake first ... I did note that the original was a bit more ummm hardcore heh

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    Speaking of Bill Paxton, FRAILTY comes to mind...Course I'm a fan...
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  19. Most of movies mentioned here are oldies.

    What are the best horror movies recently, like what after "I saw dead people" ?
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    The Exorcism of Emily Rose......that was pretty scary..
    Amityville Horror (the remake)
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    Originally Posted by FulciLives
    Your mention of THE ORPHANAGE made me think of THE OTHERS (2001) which is a great creepy atmospheric ghost film starring Nicole Kidman.

    Can't recommend that one enough!

    As for THE ORPHANAGE ... I haven't seen it yet but I've heard good things about it.

    Another creepy film along the same lines is THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE (2001) which is a Spanish language film by Guillermo del Toro which he made after MIMIC but before BLADE II.
    These three titles are examples that tower over most horror films in overall quality -- THE ORPHANAGE in particular. It has intelligence, real characters, cares about its characters (rather than moving them around like chess pieces or convenient props), and it has "heart" -- by which I do not mean the ripped-out-of-a-chest variety ! THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE has more context if you know at least a little bit about the Spanish Civil War. The atmospherics of each film is first-rate, without seeming forced.
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    I liked THE EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE.

    I also liked THE DESCENT (with the full complete ending)

    I also liked FEAST a lot.

    More horror comedy but I thought SHAUN OF THE DEAD was brilliant.

    I also liked 28 DAYS LATER and the sequel 28 WEEKS LATER.

    Stuart Gordon's DAGON was pretty good. Wasn't perfect but I liked it.

    SESSION 9 was creepy and freaked me out most of the time although I'm still not sure what the **** was going on LOL

    FRAILTY I liked a lot.

    DREAMCATCHER caught me off guard. I never read the book and had no idea that it was what it was ... I liked it a lot.

    MAY was a kewl movie. Probably not well known.

    HIGH TENSION aka HAUTE TENSION was a kick ass film.

    I liked both HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES and DEVIL'S REJECTS.

    THE ABANDONED was creepy.

    I liked SILENT HILL although thought it no masterpiece.

    I admit I had to look at a list of horror movies from 2000 - present to get some of these titles. Some I liked a little and some I liked a lot.

    Of all of those probably SHAUN OF THE DEAD is my favorite. Also John Carpenter's episode on MASTERS OF HORROR kicked ass. The title of that was CIGARETTE BURNS. That was brilliant.

    I'm sure I am missing some I just can't think of ...

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    I also liked Romero's LAND OF THE DEAD and DIARY OF THE DEAD although they aren't nearly as good as the first three.
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    I like a good horror film if it's well crafted. Even the old schlocky films from the 50s and 60s have a lot going for them. What I don't like are films that seem to have endless sequels that never seem to get any better but still make enough money for someone to keep churning them out. I watched a blurb for the latest SAW flick today where the character with the clown face says that he never murdered anyone but just gives them a choice. Well, DUH...you set the people up and they get killed by your actions of setting the traps in the first place so yeah, you are guilty of murder. But I guess the writers of these films must think the audience is really stupid, no? And of course, the police are stupid as well in this day of forensics and can never seem to catch the guy. Or else he's some spook like Jason and can't be killed. They just keep making them dumber and dumber it seems and people still seem to lap it up. Give me the old 30s Universal films over this crap any day....
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    Some will be shocked by this but as a die hard horror fan I have to say that I liked SCREAM and even the sequels. I've also liked the first three SAW movies (I've yet to see IV let alone V).

    Granted SCREAM was hard to swallow at first as one was expecting a normal horror film. It was not. It wasn't even really a parody at least not as we've come to expect with films like AIRPLANE or YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN etc.

    SCREAM was unique. It basically said "We are going to be 'self aware' of the horror genre and all of it's trappings and perhaps even make fun or poke fun at these things yet within this frame work we are going to deliver a horror film "proper" and not some goof ball comedy". With that in mind I think it succeeded ... even the sequels.

    As for SAW ... the first was very imaginative and clever. I think that had that been "it" or in other words if it were a stand alone film then it would be a bit more respected than what it is now that it has turned into a on going series. Personally I enjoyed SAW II and thought SAW III was even better although I admit that the ending was a bit ... huh? ... how the hell can they follow this up?

    Like I said I haven't seen IV nor V yet so ... I guess I need to get caught up.

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    Ruins was creepy, but ultimately ludicrous.

    Wolf Creek packs a punch and isn't anywhere near as gory as something like Hostel. It does take a while to get going though, so you have to be patient.

    The Midnight Meat Train has the worst special effects, both visual and old school prosthetics - that I have seen outside of a student film. The romantic sub-plot is needless. If you want a good train movie, watch Raw Meat (and not the limp remake, Creep).

    Shaun of the Dead was brilliant, and also like their Michael Bay piss-take follow-up, Hot Fuzz.

    I also have the Final Destination trilogy. Not great horror films, but great 'how will they die' novelty films. The set-up and pay-off for the second film's opener is a fantastic piece of stunt work.

    The remake of The Hitcher was pointless and un-necessary, as was the remake of The Omen. Same writer as the original, but nothing new was brought to the table.

    I thought Silent Hill had some great moments in it. Some of the visuals are stunning. Sean Bean should refrain from doing American accents though.

    Loved Saw as a concept, and what they pulled off with the budget and 20 minute preview version to sell it felt very 80's. The sequels don't have any of the cleverness of the original, but are just another set of novelty death movies. If you like to see just how warped an imagination can get, you will enjoy them. If you go into them looking for anything more you will come away disappointed.

    I also enjoyed the remake of The Hills Have Eyes, although I haven't seen the sequel to it. Again, a glossy rebuilding of the original that goes it's own way in the latter parts, at least this had Wes Craven on board.

    The other surprise for me, was George Romero's Diary of the Dead. Given how disappointed I was with Land of the Dead, this Cloverfield-like take on zombiedom shows that George still has it, and works best when he keeps it modest. Yes, the characters are more archetype and cliche than real people, but it moves well and doesn't outstay it's welcome.
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    Speaking of classics and George Romero..NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD..Was and still is great to watch, and one of my faves.... 8)
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    Alas! I have to disagree about SAW. At its root, it was a mystery movie. If you apply the "SCREAM" template to mysteries, the #1 rule is as follows:

    1) All of the clues must be provided for the viewer so that the viewer can solve the mystery on their own.

    At the end of a mystery movie, the viewer would, ideally, slap themselves in the forehead and think, "I should have seen that!" (Sixth Sense did this beautifully... for most people)

    This movie's single previous scene in the film where the doctor walks through and describes the barely conscious John as a terminal cancer patient does not count. John's only scene, plus a poorly explained and, frankly, stupid motive did not qualify as "solvable clues".

    It's funny. In retrospect, I remember almost enjoying SAW right up until the reveal... then it went from a half decent movie that I almost enjoyed to a total suck job, IMO. I haven't watched any of the sequels and I never will. That the sequels made any money at all makes me question how smart Joe Public really is. I think we've been giving him too much credit.
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    The entertainment industry has known that Joe Public is a sucker since before PT Barnum. If JP was smart we wouldn't have Scary Movie 1 - 4, Epic Movie, Disaster Movie, Meet the Spartans et al, and Beverly Hills Chihuahua would not have raced to the top of the US box office.

    I suspect if you look at the dollars you will see a direct correlation between the amount of money taken by each Saw film, and the increasing dumbness of the film. The dumber the film, the higher the gross. Eventually this will change simply because something dumber will come along and the average movie goer will say "oh look, a beetle" and move on the next big (dumb) thing.

    In the mean time we still have the Coens, Pixar and Benjamin Button to keep the rest of us amused (and yes, I know none of these constitute horror films).
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    I rather liked BLOOD SIMPLE by the Coen brothers. It's more of a mystery movie but could fit easily into horror given the grave nature of parts of it.

    Also the Coen brothers had something to do with THE EVIL DEAD. I forget the particulars now but I think they helped edit it or something ... I seem to recall whatever involvement it was that it was more of a technical nature. Like "Hey guys I need to edit this movie using this editing machine show me how to do this OK" or something like that.

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    The Coens and Sam Raimi were college friends I believe. Raimi has a brief cameo in Miller's Crossing, and the three of them worked together on Crimewave
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