best and easy way to create a xvid from LAVC

[Cazz]

Hi
I use mencoder to convert my movie to LAVC and I it work nice and I can play on the HTPC

Problem is now that I have buy Argosy HV356T and that can't play FLAC.

(it can play MPEG-1, MPEG-2, DivX 3.11, DivX 4.x, DivX 5.x, Xvid)

So now I have to convert all my movie that I want to play in the Argosy but what is the best and easy way to do that?

[Baldrick]

convert to xvid with mp3 using mencoder?

Or batch convert using WinFF, add all files and convert.

[Cazz]

mm thanks
I have to create someway so I easy can convert that file that I want to convert and I can use Mencoder with a Bat file or winFF

Do I have to change bitrate or something like that?
I dont like to have bad quality but also not have file that take to much space what it need to take

[45tripp]

winff is not a mencoder gui,
it's a ffmpeg gui

i prefer Avanti as a ffmpeg gui.

what's the original format?

[Cazz]

The original is LAVC

I use this code if the movie is widescreen when I want to create my LAVC movie

mencoder moviein -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=128 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vqmin=2:aspect=16/9:vbitrate=1422 -vf pp=de,crop=0:0:0:0,scale=700:400 -o movieout.avi

The problem I found is when I use winFF it take a long time to convert the movie.
over 1 hour for every movie I convert.

[45tripp]

lavc is libavcodec...

"moviein"

i mean what is moviein?
in what format?
also mpeg4 in avi?
with flac as audio? in avi???
who has flac as audio for video?

anyway, maybe you could enlighten.

"it take a long time to convert"

speed is relevant.
settings can be changed.
your mencoder setup is fast,
it's also crap.

[Cazz]

moviein mean that is there I set to DVD (vob) or to the file I like to convert (like .ts)

like "mencoder c:\mymovie.ts ........"

When I use this code for mencoder it fast, about 20 min it take to convert to LAVC but like I write before my new mediaplayer (Argosy HV356T) can't play that so I going to convert all my movie from LAVC to Xvid.

Just looking for a good program or howto to add many file to a list and then let it convert all the file to Xvid and Winff look nice but I have not get ffmpeg to work good on my Linux machine yet.
Trying to find a nice frontend to mencoder but I have not have time yet to look so much about that yet.

But like you say
"your mencoder setup is fast,
it's also crap."


When I wrote "it take a long time to convert" I mean when I try winff on my computers it take about 1-2½ hour on each movie (the movie is about 90 min). I know it going to take sometime but so much??

[45tripp]

man, you're all over the place...

but I have not get ffmpeg to work good on my Linux machine yet.

when did linux enter the picture??

Trying to find a nice frontend to mencoder but I have not have time yet to look so much about that yet.

well in windows they're all crap.
i'd probably go with simple mencoder shell gui, at least you can somewhat work around it.
for linux i know not.

moviein mean that is there I set to DVD (vob) or to the file I like to convert (like .ts)
When I use this code for mencoder it fast, about 20 min it take to convert to LAVC but like I write before my new mediaplayer (Argosy HV356T) can't play that so I going to convert all my movie from LAVC to Xvid.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i think i get you know.

you've already converted to lavc mpeg4 from various formats,
but they don't play in your new player.
and you plan to re-encode to xvid.

don't re-encode.
change the fourcc tag.
change it to DX50

here's a tool
http://sarovar.org/projects/gfourcc/

and you can use ffmpeg too.

ffmpeg -i input.avi -vcodec copy -acodec copy -vtag DX50 output.avi

and when converting with mencoder in future:

mencoder moviein -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=128 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vqmin=2:aspect=16/9:vbitrate=1422 -vf pp=de,crop=0:0:0:0,scale=700:400 -ffourcc DX50 -o movieout.avi

When I wrote "it take a long time to convert" I mean when I try winff on my computers it take about 1-2½ hour on each movie (the movie is about 90 min). I know it going to take sometime but so much??

speed is relative.
for basic quality though, you need to add trell and mbd 2


tripp

[Cazz]

man, you're all over the place...
Sorry if I write bad, english is not my mother tongue

when did linux enter the picture??

Well I have a computer that I can have on all the time to convert but it run on Ubuntu, and mencoder or ffmpeg is for both windows or Linux.

you've already converted to lavc mpeg4 from various formats,
but they don't play in your new player.
and you plan to re-encode to xvid.

YES

don't re-encode.
change the fourcc tag.
change it to DX50

here's a tool
http://sarovar.org/projects/gfourcc/

and you can use ffmpeg too.

ffmpeg -i input.avi -vcodec copy -acodec copy -vtag DX50 output.avi

and when converting with mencoder in future:

mencoder moviein -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=128 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vqmin=2:aspect=16/9:vbitrate=1422 -vf pp=de,crop=0:0:0:0,scale=700:400 -ffourcc DX50 -o movieout.avi

ohh so I maybe dont need to re-encode, just change the fourcc tag to DX50
That is very good news if it works with my new mediaplayer.
That can't take so long time as if I have to re-encode all my files

Going to try when I get home.

[Cazz]

Hi again
I have now a another problem after I change the ffource to DX50 that I need to change the size of the movie to 720x480 (I have now 768x576) but when I use -s 720x480 in the ffmpeg code

ffmpeg -i input.avi -vcodec copy -acodec copy -s 720x480 -vtag DX50 output.avi

it dont change it, it just start and change the vtag to DX50 but nothing more?

[45tripp]

Sorry if I write bad, english is not my mother tongue

it's not mine either

Well I have a computer that I can have on all the time to convert but it run on Ubuntu, and mencoder or ffmpeg is for both windows or Linux.

Operating system always matters.
especially if you want to talk guis

ohh so I maybe dont need to re-encode, just change the fourcc tag to DX50

probably not.

Hi again
I have now a another problem after I change the ffource to DX50 that I need to change the size of the movie to 720x480 (I have now 768x576) but when I use -s 720x480 in the ffmpeg code
it dont change it, it just start and change the vtag to DX50 but nothing more?

of course not.
we're just remuxing while changing the tag.
to change the size you have to re-encode...
are you saying your player has a 720x480 max resolution restriction?
if so, anything over will require re-encoding.

also 720x480??
it's unlikely your player supports dar in avi.
you'll need a square pixel resize.
ahh
and i forgot to mention, you should keep resolution to multiples of 16.

so assuming 16/9 material.
resize to 720x400 or 704x400.

ffmpeg -i input.avi -vcodec mpeg4 -acodec copy -s 720x400 -sws_flags lanczos -qscale 3 -mbd 2 -trellis 1 -vtag DX50 out.avi

tripp

[Cazz]

well the movie I try now is just 4:3 and not widesceen so I think I have to use 720x544

[45tripp]

that's right.
704x528 is even closer
(if you're waiting for confirmation)

[Cazz]

ohh ok well I can try that too.
After I have use ffmpeg file it get alot bigger, from around 740 Mb to 1.01 Gb
and my mediaplayer still dont want to play but not it dont say anything wrong

I have done two screenprint from two diffrent movie, one that work and one that don't work


Work



Don't work



/Update

If I use this code to create a AVI from one of my recorded DVD it look that it work

mencoder dvd://1 -dvd-device c:/homemademovie.iso  -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=128 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vqmin=2:aspect=16/9:vbitrate=1422 -vf pp=de,crop=0:0:0:0,scale=700:400 -ffourcc DX50 -o movieout.avi

Going to try more tomorrow

[45tripp]

After I have use ffmpeg file it get alot bigger, from around 740 Mb to 1.01 Gb

but it looks good
use qscale 3 or 4 or higher for smaller filesize.

and my mediaplayer still dont want to play but not it dont say anything wrong
I have done two screenprint from two diffrent movie, one that work and one that don't work

it's possible your player is crap.
from the specs it should play fine.

the files are largely similar.
nothing really standing out.
there's vbr mp3 audio vs cbr mp3,
but then your later mencoder attempt shouldn't have worked either, if that was the case.

probably the gigabyte mark.
try again under the gigabyte mark


tripp

[Cazz]

Today I have try again, last time it was late and I did have alot to think about

I have try now to rip a DVD

mencoder dvd://1 -dvd-device c:/homemademovie.iso -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=128 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vqmin=2:vbitrate=1267 -vf pp=de,crop=0:0:0:0,scale=720:548 -ffourcc DX50 -o c:/movieout2.avi

and it work fine in my mediaplayer

after that I convert a AVI file that have LAVC with this code

ffmpeg -i c:/,oviein.avi -vcodec mpeg4 -acodec copy -s 720x548 -sws_flags lanczos -qscale 4 -mbd 2 -trellis 1 -vtag DX50 c:/movieout3.avi

and it work to

and it go quite fast to

so thanks alot all the people that help me, THANKS

[Cazz]

I open this topic because I have a little problem with some of the movie.
Some movie have a very high pich and sound extrem bad and later it dont have any sound, is that normal when I have convert a movie?
Is that any way to fix it and is that any way to find out which movie is bad and which movie is ok??