Problem burning/copying on dvd-r

[reminho]

hi guys,

I have a big problem
I cannot write or Copy to a dvd-r
I have this drive :

_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A

I think I'm ably to copy/burn DVD-r with this drive
It recognize the dvd as an empty disk, but I can't burn/copy with Nero or VSO

plz help guys !!

ty
Reminho

[redwudz]

It should burn -R up to 16X. Check to see that it's in DMA mode in 'Control Panel>System>Hardware>Device Manager' Check the properties tab of the IDE channel for the burner. It should be DMA 2 - 4.

Also a 80 conductor IDE cable is required, same as the type for the hard drives.

What brand of DVD media are you using? You might try a different brand.

Try using ImgBurn and post a burn log if it gets that far.

And welcome to our forums.

[reminho]

hi,
I checked the mode and it's DMA mode
for that cable I don't know wich cable that is or what to do with it , plz help ty

and I just bought a packet of 25 dvd-r TDK
I nrmly buy DVD+r and they work good so

[jman98]

Try updating your firmware if you must use Nero. I'd recommend using ImgBurn instead. Sometimes this problem can be fixed by firmware updates on the burner. Nero has no ability to deal with changing media codes whereas some programs do have the ability to try a generalized write strategy that usually works on media with new codes. So with Nero you have to update your firmware to the latest and greatest to fix this problem.

[reminho]

ok ty for the replies
I tried burninf an iso file on the dvd with IMGburn but there was an error :

Failed to reserve track
Reason : Cannot write medium / Imcompatible Format

and about the firmware for Nero, Where can I find it ?

plz help
ty

[tomlee59]

ok ty for the replies
I tried burninf an iso file on the dvd with IMGburn but there was an error :

Failed to reserve track
Reason : Cannot write medium / Imcompatible Format

and about the firmware for Nero, Where can I find it ?

plz help
ty

TDK used to be good media, now it's junk. That could be part of the problem. Also, if you are trying to burn at its maximum rated speed, you'll have even less success. With second-rate media, you'll have much better luck burning a notch or two below maximum speed. So, for 16x media, try burning at, say 8x, and see if things improve. Keep going down in speed if you continue to have problems. With some drive/media combinations, don't be surprised if you have to burn at 2x. And there's still no guarantee that even 2x will work.

Next, do a search for firmware updates for your DRIVE, not Nero. It's the drive's responsibility to figure out the low-level burning strategies that differ from disc to disc. If the disc manufacturer changes the dye composition, a different strategy is needed. If the drive's firmware has not been updated, it won't be able to burn reliably, if at all. Sometimes, manufacturers will issue firmware updates for their drives. However, not all do, in which case your only options are to find (probably older) media that is compatible, or buy a new drive.

[reminho]

ok I will try to burn on 2x speed tmmrw
I really don't know anything about firmware so if you could help find where I download the latest version of that software, ty
but there's 1 thing I don't get , my drive is able to read/write dvd-r , but still it doens't work, so is it the brand that sucks ? dvd+r works tho from TDK

I hope you guys can help me becouse I spend 25 euros buying those dvd's

ty all
Reminho

[tomlee59]

Re: Firmware: Google is your friend. Search for "firmware update [model number]"

Not all media works in all drives, as mentioned. Different manufacturers of discs use different chemistries. And different drive manufacturers support these varieties differently. So, not all DVD+R is the same, for example. I wish it were otherwise.

In general, people find that Verbatim and Taiyo-Yuden to be primo media, but even so, there are some drive that nonetheless have problems even with those media. It may benefit you to perform a Google search for your drive and see what media others have successfully used with it. In fact, even the manufacturer may have listed the media for which the firmware was written. In your case, they have. See http://support.necam.com/optical/nd3520a.asp

[reminho]

ok ty, so I downloaded the firmware you mentioned on the link and installed it
I will try it again in an hour or so
but in pdf file with all the media on it, it says my drive is able to write on TDK-r at 2,4x speed, I'll see, otherwise if non of these things work
I bought 25 dvd-r for nothing ?

ty vm
Reminho

[reminho]

hi ,
I tried copying a dvd to dvd-r on 4x speed with Nero Express and it worked
I will burning a dvd with VSO and tell you the result
ty you all for helping

Cheers
Reminho

[tomlee59]

it says my drive is able to write on TDK-r at 2,4x speed, I'll see, otherwise if non of these things work
I bought 25 dvd-r for nothing ?

TDK, like other manufacturers, change their product from time to time. In TDK's case, the changes have been for the worse. So if the drive manufacturer wrote its firmware to work with older TDK media, it may not work with the newer stuff. It's not the brand name (eg TDK) that matters, it's the actual chemical composition of the writeable dye that the disc manufacturer uses. That's why firmware upgrades are periodically issued by the more friendly drive manufacturers -- it's their attempt at keeping up with a dynamically changing product mix.

I'm glad you were able to achieve some level of success at last. And maybe you can find someone to trade your discs for something else.

[lordsmurf]

TDK is a brand name.
TDK-manufactured media has disappeared.
TDK now re-brands CMC media, which is highly variable in quality (it's often quite crappy).

See www.nomorecoasters.com

[tomlee59]

It's too bad that the site hasn't been updated in a couple of years, otherwise nomorecoasters would be a much more useful resource. Btw, it now redirects to http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/ Your up-to-date information about TDK, for example, isn't reflected in that list -- it still says TDK is the good stuff, sadly.

[reminho]

ok ty for the info guys !
Now I can fianlly send my the dvd's out for a trade

Cheers
Reminho

[nicky57]

It's too bad that the site hasn't been updated in a couple of years, otherwise nomorecoasters would be a much more useful resource. Btw, it now redirects to http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/ Your up-to-date information about TDK, for example, isn't reflected in that list -- it still says TDK is the good stuff, sadly.

Forget that old outdate site.
Dependable media today is limited. In stores is mostly Verbs +R, online TY 8X is top quality and no one comes close. Most other media, Sony, CMC etc is average at best.

[tomlee59]

I agree completely. That's why I stocked up on multiple spindles of T-Y 8x long ago. All of my burners handle it fine (including the crappy Matsushitas in my Powerbooks), and its shelf life seems very good, too. Anything other than T-Y or Verbatim seems too much of a crapshoot to bother with.

[lordsmurf]

It's too bad that the site hasn't been updated in a couple of years, otherwise nomorecoasters would be a much more useful resource. Btw, it now redirects to http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/ Your up-to-date information about TDK, for example, isn't reflected in that list -- it still says TDK is the good stuff, sadly.

The site is up to date as of July 2008, especially the quality guide by media ID. TDK-manufactured media is good media. It's a shame you cannot find it anymore. TDK-branded media is mostly CMC and other stuff. I suggest you read, rather than skim. It explains the difference between BRAND and ID/manufacture.

[redwudz]

That's why I stocked up on multiple spindles of T-Y 8x long ago.

I still have about 5 cakeboxes of TY R- 8X silver tops saved for future use.

[tomlee59]

It's too bad that the site hasn't been updated in a couple of years, otherwise nomorecoasters would be a much more useful resource. Btw, it now redirects to http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/ Your up-to-date information about TDK, for example, isn't reflected in that list -- it still says TDK is the good stuff, sadly.

The site is up to date as of July 2008, especially the quality guide by media ID. TDK-manufactured media is good media. It's a shame you cannot find it anymore. TDK-branded media is mostly CMC and other stuff. I suggest you read, rather than skim. It explains the difference between BRAND and ID/manufacture.

Obviously there is a difference between BRAND and ID. That's not the point. The point is that YOU have kindly informed us that TDK NO LONGER manufactures its own discs. That site does not include this information.

Sheesh!

[reminho]

btw :
anyone know a sollution for cheap blank dvd's in Belgium ??
I think you cannot order any on the internet, they aren't aloud to
they cost +- 1 euro for 1 dvd here in belgium

plz someone ?
ty

[lordsmurf]

Obviously there is a difference between BRAND and ID. That's not the point. The point is that YOU have kindly informed us that TDK NO LONGER manufactures its own discs. That site does not include this information.
Sheesh!

The point is that you're still not reading and comprehending.

For starters, I never said "TDK no longer manufactures" their own media, simply that finding it is near-impossible as it is no longer available under TDK consumer-branded spindle. Stop reading what you want to read, read the words on the page.

And then the fact that it is hard to find does not undercut the importance that TDK media is good media. The fact that you do not have any TDK media is irrelevant. It still needs to be on the list, for folks that may have some already, blank or used, or somehow manage to find "old stock" somewhere that is still for sale and want to know if it is a good buy.

It's not a "current events" blog, it's a guide on media quality, dating to back to media available since 2001.

Maybe a "current events" page would be helpful, but it's not a priority. An intelligent person should be able to aggregate the information available and go from there. The only sure-fire way to know what is in a spindle is to buy one and look at the media ID anyway.

[tomlee59]

The point is that you're still not reading and comprehending.

Well, clearly your issue is with some other factors. But thank you for evaluating my comprehension skills. I value your input.

[reminho]

hi,

can someone plz answer my question ^^ ?

ty

[lordsmurf]

Your burner may simply be dying. It happens.

[redwudz]

hi,

can someone plz answer my question ^^ ?

ty

What DVD media is available in Belgium? You likely have two main choices, to order from the UK or maybe Germany. Taxes and shipping may be a problem from both. If you check at CD Freaks, you may get better answers on what is available in your part of the world. http://shop.cdfreaks.com/index/2/1

[reminho]

ok ty man
but at cd freaks the dvd's are really expensive
I can buy them here in shop at 1Euro for 1dvd
I want less expensive

anyone ?
ty

[reminho]

no one ?