.mkv/.ogm to .avi w/ subtitles

[Xandal]

Hello, I'm willing to learn how to use just about any program unless it will take me months to learn some coding or whatever. I just need to learn how to convert .mkv and .ogm to .avi while preserving the original subtitles and sound. Learning how to choose which language would also be great. Please don't give me the typical ".mkv is better than .avi I won't help you" response. It's for storage, and .avi is a lot smaller. Thank you in advance.

[Baldrick]

No, avi is not smaller. You can make mkv,ogm with same file size because it depends on the video bitrate and not the container(avi,mkv,ogm).

But if you want avi I would use alltoavi or xvid4psp. If you don't want burned in subtitles you must use avimuxgui to add the subtitles to the avi and they will only work if you have vobsub installed. Or you can use separate subtitles. Extract subs from mkv,ogm using OGMcleaver.

[Xandal]

I dislike alltoavi, I've tried it. xvid4psp seems interesting, I'm just confused about how to use it. I do want the subtitles burned in, so the extras shouldn't matter. I can't really figure out how to put the subtitles on. When I go to watch it in Media Player Classic I just choose the subtitle language. It's not a separate subtitle file. Converting it to .avi in general is just confusing. I'm probably gonna need some help here.

Edit: I've got it to go to .avi, still can't figure out subtitles though.

[Baldrick]

If you want subs with xvid4psp you must first extract the subtitle from the mkv/ogm. Use OGMCleaver or mkvextractgui. Then load the subtitle under Subtitle->Load in Xvid4psp.

[Xandal]

Thank yah! I'll edit this post if I have any issues.

Edit: That's pretty much the most annoying thing ever. I opened OGMCleaver, right, and I opened up my .mkv video and it was all "This doesn't appear to be a .ogm/.mkv file." So, I'm stuck. MKVExtractGUI just gives me errors for no reason, I gave up on that one.

[Ai Haibara]

Are you sure it's a valid .MKV file, and not something simply renamed to .MKV? You might try running it through a utility like MediaInfo to make sure there's nothing wrong with it.

What errors did you receive with MKVExtractGUI? Did you make sure to install mkvtoolnix to the same directory as MKVExtractGUI?

[Xandal]

Okay, so MKVExtractGUI is working, and yeah it's installed in the same directory as mkvtoolnix now. So no more errors. I just can't figure out how to get out the subtitles. Also, MediaInfo says that everything is fine with the .mkv file and that the subtitles are in .ass format. OGMCleaver is still being annoying though.

Edit: Got OGMCleaver working! Woot~ Last problem for now, is there a way to get it to extract JUST the subtitles? I find no need for the rest of the stuff.

Edit 2: So, I just started to encode a single episode because I'm cool like that. And it's going along fine, decent speed, doing what it needs to do. The preview video looked good and the subtitles/sound/video were all in sync. Which is good! But, is there a way to bulk encode with XviD4PSP? Because, sometimes you download a batch torrent with like up to 50 episodes in them and you just gotta convert 'em all. I'd like to leave my computer alone for a night, or a weekend while I'm away and just let it run through like a whole season.

Edit 3: It finished, awesome! Right, WRONG! So, the audio and video are off sync. One's slower than the other. I think it's the audio, I can't tell 100%, but I think it's the audio. Subtitles are fun, but I didn't expect them to be off sync. Also note that the preview video in XviD4PSP looked totally fine and was in sync.

[Xandal]

I apologize for bumping this, but I doubt anyone will look here if I don't. I kinda proclaimed victory, but later edited it with some issues.

[Baldrick]

PLEASE wait some days before bumping.

I would buy/rent the episodes on dvd instead of downloading warez. No sync problems.

[Xandal]

I had more than enough reason to bump. You're obviously around to comment, but I was falling down the page. And I assumed no one cared mainly because I posted that it was fine. Buying/Renting, well, if I wanted to deal with bad quality I could do that, plus, what about the ones I already own and just want better quality subs? That's completely legal, but I still get sync problems.

[Xandal]

I waited 3 days, you knew this post was here, and yet no response. I don't like that you'd assume that it's warez when you have no knowledge of what I'm trying to convert. Is that your way of saying "I don't know what your problem is"? I don't think that's a good way to say that... Now, does anyone here know how to get a .mkv to .avi with subtitles, audio, and video all in sync? Like I said, I'm willing to learn just about anything so long as it won't take months to master.

[poisondeathray]

Since you own the original, it would be MUCH easier to go straight to .avi, especially if your .mkv's are vfr (variable frame rate), which they probably are by the sounds of your sync issues. (If they are anime .mkv's and you didn't author them, they are 99.9% likely to be VFR). If you want to do it the hard way, there are several posts revealing how to do this, just [search]

Another approach would be to fix the sync in the avi. This is only possible if the .mkv's were NOT vfr. Again, there are 100's of posts and guides demonstrating how to do this. Make sure you differentiate between a constant delay vs. progressive delay

If you still can't figure it out, despite reading all the posts that deal with the same issue, please post specific questions and details, and someone will help you out

[Xandal]

Oh no! Big error I'm not totally sure what to do here... Some help please?

Crash reason: Access Violation

Crash context:
An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'vobsub'...

...while running filter "TextSub 2.23" (FilterSystem.cpp:520)...

...while running thread "Processing" (thread.cpp:120).

VirtualDub crash report -- build 2540 (release)
--------------------------------------

Disassembly:
0abb3420: a5              movsd  
0abb3421: bd0a89078b      mov    ebp, 8b07890a
0abb3426: 4d              dec    ebp
0abb3427: 0c66            or     al, 66
0abb3429: 8b11            mov    edx, [ecx]
0abb342b: 52              push   edx
0abb342c: ff1594a5bd0a    call   dword ptr [0abda594]
0abb3432: 83c410          add    esp, 10
0abb3435: 85c0            test   eax, eax
0abb3437: 741a            jz     0abb3453
0abb3439: 8b450c          mov    eax, [ebp+0c]
0abb343c: 83c002          add    eax, 02
0abb343f: 89450c          mov    [ebp+0c], eax
0abb3442: 668b00          mov    ax, [eax]
0abb3445: 50              push   eax
0abb3446: ff1594a5bd0a    call   dword ptr [0abda594]
0abb344c: 83c404          add    esp, 04
0abb344f: 85c0            test   eax, eax
0abb3451: 75e6            jnz    0abb3439
0abb3453: 8b4d0c          mov    ecx, [ebp+0c]
0abb3456: 8b442410        mov    eax, [esp+10]
0abb345a: 83c704          add    edi, 04
0abb345d: 83c102          add    ecx, 02
0abb3460: 48              dec    eax
0abb3461: 894d0c          mov    [ebp+0c], ecx
0abb3464: 89442410        mov    [esp+10], eax
0abb3468: 75a9            jnz    0abb3413
0abb346a: 8b4d08          mov    ecx, [ebp+08]
0abb346d: 83c8ff          or     eax, ff
0abb3470: 894630          mov    [esi+30], eax
0abb3473: 894624          mov    [esi+24], eax
0abb3476: 897130          mov    [ecx+30], esi
0abb3479: 8d7344          lea    esi, [ebx+44]
0abb347c: 8bce            mov    ecx, esi
0abb347e: e885230200      call   0abd5808
0abb3483: 8b550c          mov    edx, [ebp+0c]
0abb3486: 668b02          mov    ax, [edx]
0abb3489: 663d5c00        cmp    ax, 005c
0abb348d: 7423            jz     0abb34b2
0abb348f: 663d7d00        cmp    ax, 007d
0abb3493: 741d            jz     0abb34b2
0abb3495: 8b7d0c          mov    edi, [ebp+0c]
0abb3498: 50              push   eax
0abb3499: 83c702          add    edi, 02
0abb349c: 8bce            mov    ecx, esi
0abb349e: 897d0c          mov    [ebp+0c], edi
0abb34a1: e8b2210200      call   0abd5658
0abb34a6: 8b450c          mov    eax, [ebp+0c]
0abb34a9: 668b00          mov    ax, [eax]      <-- FAULT
0abb34ac: 663d5c00        cmp    ax, 005c
0abb34b0: 75dd            jnz    0abb348f
0abb34b2: 8bce            mov    ecx, esi
0abb34b4: e881210200      call   0abd563a
0abb34b9: 8bce            mov    ecx, esi
0abb34bb: e874210200      call   0abd5634
0abb34c0: 8b0e            mov    ecx, [esi]
0abb34c2: 8b41f8          mov    eax, [ecx-08]
0abb34c5: 85c0            test   eax, eax
0abb34c7: 743a            jz     0abb3503
0abb34c9: 6a01            push   01
0abb34cb: 6a30            push   30
0abb34cd: 8d4c243c        lea    ecx, [esp+3c]
0abb34d1: e82c230200      call   0abd5802
0abb34d6: 8b542434        mov    edx, [esp+34]
0abb34da: 8b06            mov    eax, [esi]
0abb34dc: 52              push   edx
0abb34dd: 50              push   eax
0abb34de: ff1598a5bd0a    call   dword ptr [0abda598]
0abb34e4: 83c408          add    esp, 08
0abb34e7: 8d4c2434        lea    ecx, [esp+34]
0abb34eb: 85c0            test   eax, eax
0abb34ed: 0f94442427      setz   [esp+27]
0abb34f2: e8f71e0200      call   0abd53ee
0abb34f7: 8a442427        mov    al, [esp+27]
0abb34fb: 84c0            test   al, al
0abb34fd: 0f84fa0d0000    jz     0abb42fd
0abb3503: 8b4d14          mov    ecx, [ebp+14]
0abb3506: 83c144          add    ecx, 44
0abb3509: 51              push   ecx
0abb350a: 8bce            mov    ecx, esi
0abb350c: e8e91e0200      call   0abd53fa
0abb3511: e9e70d0000      jmp    0abb42fd
0abb3516: 33c0            xor    eax, eax
0abb3518: 668b06          mov    ax, [esi]
0abb351b: 83e878          sub    eax, 78
0abb351e: 0f              db     0f
0abb351f: 84              db     84

Windows 5.1 (Windows XP build 2600) [Service Pack 3]

EAX = 02e35000
EBX = 0c6ef8e8
ECX = 03088968
EDX = 003c0608
EBP = 0c6ef8ac
DS:ESI = 0023:0c6ef92c
ES:EDI = 0023:02e35000
SS:ESP = 0023:0c6ef7c8
CS:EIP = 001b:0abb34a9
FS = 003b
GS = 0000
EFLAGS = 00010246
FPUCW = ffff027f
FPUTW = ffffffff

MM0 = 00cbdfdfdfcbdfdf
MM1 = dfcbdfdfcbdfdfcb
MM2 = dfcbdfdfdfcbdfdf
MM3 = dfcbdfdfdfcbdfdf
MM4 = 843521cfb2b79000
MM5 = af00000000000000
MM6 = a000000000000000
MM7 = af00000000000000

Crash reason: Access Violation

Crash context:
An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'vobsub'...

...while running filter "TextSub 2.23" (FilterSystem.cpp:520)...

...while running thread "Processing" (thread.cpp:120).

Thread traces:

Thread 00000974 (Main thread)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(1828)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(1846)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(429)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(569)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(124)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(126)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(124)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(126)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(124)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(126)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(124)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(126)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(124)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(126)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(409)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(429)
Thread 00000d5c (FastWriteStream)
Thread 00000b50 (Processing)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Dub.cpp(2817)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Dub.cpp(2609)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(1623)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(1658)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Dub.cpp(2614)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(517)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(530)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSequenceCompressor.cpp(403)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSequenceCompressor.cpp(420)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Dub.cpp(2777)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Dub.cpp(2817)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Dub.cpp(2609)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(1623)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(1658)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Dub.cpp(2614)
	C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\FilterSystem.cpp(517)
Thread 000009dc (Dub-I/O)

Thread call stack:0abb34a9: vobsub!?ParseStyle@CRenderedTextSubtitle@@AAEPAGPAVCSubtitle@@PAGAAVSTSStyle@@2_N@Z [0aba0000+12810+c99]
7c809abc: kernel32!lstrlenW [7c800000+9a99+23]
5f80444f: MFC42u!0000444f
7c809abc: kernel32!lstrlenW [7c800000+9a99+23]
5f84dd10: MFC42u!0004dd10
0abb2051: vobsub!?ParseEffect@CRenderedTextSubtitle@@AAEXPAVCSubtitle@@VCString@@@Z [0aba0000+11de0+271]
0abb4d5c: vobsub!?GetSubtitle@CRenderedTextSubtitle@@AAEPAVCSubtitle@@H@Z [0aba0000+144a0+8bc]
7c9101bb: ntdll!RtlAllocateHeap [7c900000+100a4+117]
77c36ef5: msvcrt!perror [77c10000+26df2+103]
0ababe30: vobsub!?vobsubGetSubFileNames@@YAXVCString@@AAVCStringArray@@AAV?$CArray@USubFile@@AAU1@@@@Z [0aba0000+9770+26c0]
0abb1502: vobsub!?Render@CRenderedTextSubtitle@@QAE_NAAUtagBITMAP@@HNAAVCRect@@@Z [0aba0000+11080+482]
0abb1518: vobsub!?Render@CRenderedTextSubtitle@@QAE_NAAUtagBITMAP@@HNAAVCRect@@@Z [0aba0000+11080+498]
7c90d07c: ntdll!NtCreateEvent [7c900000+d070+c]
0abb1071: vobsub!?Render@CRenderedTextSubtitle@@QAE_NAAUtagBITMAP@@HN@Z [0aba0000+11050+21]
01ea1b10: textsub!VirtualdubFilterModuleDeinit [01ea0000+1120+9f0]
0047c4f0: FilterSystem::RunFilters()
0047c296: FilterSystem::RunFilters()
0046e908: Dubber::WriteVideoFrame()
0046f12f: Dubber::ThreadRun()
7c90d37c: ntdll!NtFreeVirtualMemory [7c900000+d370+c]
7c91a4b5: ntdll!RtlReAllocateHeap [7c900000+19b80+935]
7c91a7a3: ntdll!RtlReAllocateHeap [7c900000+19b80+c23]
7c91a53d: ntdll!RtlReAllocateHeap [7c900000+19b80+9bd]
7c90d28c: ntdll!NtDuplicateObject [7c900000+d280+c]
7c80def3: kernel32!DuplicateHandle [7c800000+de8e+65]
0052939f: VDThread::StaticThreadStart()
0056b99c: _threadstartex@4()
7c80b713: kernel32!GetModuleFileNameA [7c800000+b55f+1b4]

-- End of report

[poisondeathray]

vdubmod doesn't handle .mkv very well, it hasn't been updated in years.

If you are still trying to hardsub and convert to .avi, you could try avidemux which has better support for .mkv (My earlier comments about vfr .mkv's still holds true)

[Xandal]

I was opening a .avi file. However, I'll give that AviDemux thing a try.

[Xandal]

I was opening a .avi file. However, I'll give that AviDemux thing a try.

I'm totally lost with AviDemux, please give me a hand with either VirtualDubMod or AviDemux. (With AviDemux I can get the subtitles to show up in the preview but they are really ugly and look nothing like what they should. The font and coloring is all different and weird as well as placement for some scenes. Even if I do try to encode it, it just gives me a fatal error.)

I'm so sorry for the double post, I thought I was editing!