Adding 13 Anime Episodes to 1 DVD?? How is it Done?

[sandman423]

I have been going through this delema for some time now...I have a bunch of Anime AVI's on my computer that I want to put on DVDs.

I have been using FAVSC with HC Encoder and I am able to put up to 8 Episodes per Disc with Menus, but I own a bunch of Naruto Episodes with 26 Episodes on 2 DVDs which is Awsome.

I want to recreate this with my One Piece Episodes...It would make it much easier to put 13 per DVD rather then 8 at a time...Less DVD-R's.


So could someone please help me out with this. I have TMPGEnc 2.5 Plus, TMPGEnc Xpress v4, CCE SP Trial, AVISynth 2.5, etc.


I went through some guides but I get completely lost when it comes to AVISynth or Converting to MPEG04 I believe is the right format.

Here is what my AVI's look like in G-Spot 2.7..I also watch my DVDs on a PS2 which is terrible with overscan so I think I needed to convert the AVIs from 4:3 to 16:9..

This is my usual way of putting Anime Episodes onto DVD...

Open VirtualDub , Load in Original AVI, Trim Intro and Outro, Save As (Save to a Folder), Open FitCD, Load AVI I Just Trimmed and save Script to another Folder (This adds the Black Borders to play right on PS2), Open FAVSC, Load Script made by FitCD, and Click Encode...Then I burn the VIDEO_TS or ISO via ImgBurn.

It works VERY Well but I want to be able to put 13 Episodes per disc.

[SLK001]

13 episodes at 22 minutes each is over 4.5 hours of video on one DVD-R. That's a lot.

[poisondeathray]

Don't get too optimistic about your resultant video quality. The retail DVD probably had a good quality master which they put on the DVD (was it DVD9 ?). You are making a DVD from compressed AVI's - big difference.

Try ConvertXtoDVD. I find it better for "stuffing" episodes on a disc. You can also adjust overscan in the newer versions. Unfortunately not free.

[sandman423]

Well I believe what the guy did was used TMPGEnc 2.5 Plus for 13 Episodes per disc...I think he took AVIs and converted them to MPEG04 via TMPGEnc and then he put them on a Disc...

It was not a DVD9 because PS2 can't play DVD9's only DVD-R's.


ConvertXtoDVD 3 Sucks...I hate it so much...I don't like the fact you have to manually open up tabs to change things...I like ConvertXtoDVD v2 it is a lot better...you can simply double click on the texts to change it..no tabs..Overscan sucks I know for PS2 so I try to make it so 16:9 I think so I can see all the subs and picture with no overscan issues.

[sandman423]

Here is another one...

[FulciLives]

Keep doing what you are doing and stop at roughly 2 hours or slightly more but no more than that.

It is better to spread it out and have very good to excellent quality.

As for the disc with the 26 episodes. They can't possibly look ALL that good. If they do then perhaps he used Half D1 and/or you don't have a good quality TV and/or you need glasses.

4.5 hours is pushing it even for Half D1 resolution.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[sandman423]

It looks great..I don't notice any difference. It looks great on my 13 in TV...I don't see any pixelation or anything.

[sandman423]

Also how does my FAVSC HC Enc Setup look?? It takes about two hours to make the Video_TS Folder to Burn...Is that good or Bad??

Here is the picture quality on my Computer...

[sandman423]

I want to set my DVDs up like this...13 Episodes on a DVD is AWSOME...

he only used 4.24 GB to make this one DVD...

I like the 13 Episodes it makes less Discs..

[FulciLives]

I am at work and our internet filter blocks some of the images yet some are comming through and picturequality01.jpg is horrendious looking. It's a total mess. It's blurry and lacks any real detail and the resolution is lacking etc.

It's shit as I had thought.

Why would you want to do this to your videos? To save space and money? Even the best DVD-R discs cost less than 50 cents each and you can buy slim cases that hold two DVD discs and thus take very little space.

It's a ridiculas endeavor.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[poisondeathray]

I have to agree with Fulci: crap quality

Just burn as a data disk and you can fit ~30 episodes with better quality than converting to DVD

(since your original .avi episodes are ~140MB from the gspot screenshot - but they are already compressed to begin with - you'd do a better job with original source quality material)

Or if you want playable on PS3, convert to h.264/aac in .mp4. You could still fit about 30 episodes.

FACT: MPEG2 sucks at low bitrate.

[FulciLives]

XboX 360 and PS3 can do MP4 which is h.264 video with stereo AAC audio and this would be a good way of re-encoding while still getting good quality and a lot of content per disc.

However you need to have an XboX 360 or PS3 or computer hooked up to a TV otherwise ... no go!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[sandman423]

Darn I guess I will stick with 8 Episodes a DVD-R...Thanks for all the help...I can't afford a XBox 360 or PS3 at the moment..

Using Ps2 right now for DVD Player But I am going to buy a DVD Player for my Birthday in October..

Any Recommendations for DVD Players that will play my Taiyo Yudan 8x DVD-R's as well as Pretty much all media?? I heard Pioneer is good.

[poisondeathray]

Sorry I misread your original post, I thought you said PS3, not PS2...that's why I suggested .mp4/h.264/aac

You can find cheap DVD players thay playback DivX for around $30-40 (even cheaper on ebay). That way you can still burn the .avi episodes as a data disk and keep their original quality and still fit ~30 episodes.

If you had the original DVD, the quality would also be better for you goals, rather than using a ripped .avi.

Good luck

[jagabo]

As others have indicated, getting a Divx/DVD player is your best bet. The Philips 5990 and 5992 are pretty good and can be had for as little as US$40 at places like Costco, Walmart, etc. These are upscaling players that can play regular movie DVDs, Divx and Xvid AVI files, MP3 files, etc. They are easily made region free (a few button presses on the remote control) and can convert PAL to NTSC (and vice versa) so you can play DVDs from all over the world.

If you really want to make regular movie DVDs the answer to putting many hours on a DVD is simple:

file size = bitrate * running time

This is a universal truth to all video formats. Add up the running time of all your videos and that will tell you the bitrate you need to use. Use a bitrate calculator, for example:

https://www.videohelp.com/calc

Enter the total running time (and audio bitrate) and it will tell you the required video bitrate.

Generally, if you are going put more than ~2 hours you should switch to a half D1 frame size (352x480). For more than ~4 hours a quarter D1 frame size (352x240). The smaller frame sizes will give you less macroblocks but a fuzzier image.

Finally, do a 2 (or more) pass variable bitrate encode with a decent MPEG encoder, then author and burn a DVD.

You can put as much running time as you want on a DVD. The quality will get worse as the running time goes up. It's up to you to decide when the quality is too poor to watch. Anime, in particular, tends to be more compressible than live action video. So you can often squeeze more onto a DVD than you would with action movies. But keep in mind, something that looks ok on your 13 inch TV now may look like crap on your 50 inch HDTV in the future.

[FulciLives]

Can't play ANIME on a DivX/XviD capable DVD player ... those damn "fansub" groups always put the subtitles too low in the frame and TV OVERSCAN hides it.

Unless you are lucky enough to own an LCD type TV that allows you to "undue" overscanning.

Course the OP could re-encode as he does now but to the DivX/XviD format instead of DVD Video yet if he is going to re-encode to account for TV OVERSCAN then he might as well just create standard DVD Video discs.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[sandman423]

So what would be the BEST DVD player to get that would let me watch Anime Episodes the way I make them via FAVSC?

What Other DVD Player should I get? I was about to order the Phillips 5992 on ebay..

So what do you recommend?? Also is there a Way to make it so I can put more then 8 Videos in FAVSC and still have a Menu??

FAVSC states that if I Add more then 8 Video Scripts then it says it can't have a menu so how do I exceed 8 Videos and still be able to make a Menu?

[FulciLives]

jababo and others where trying to say that if you buy a DVD player that is capable of playing DivX/XviD files then you can just watch the original files without conversion.

A very nice idea indeed!

BUT ... most anime with burned-in fan subs are done with the subtitles so low on the image that this method doesn't work unless you have a TV that does no OVERSCAN and so very few support that on anything BUT an analog VGA input (if they even have that type of input).

So you have to re-convert to account for TV OVERSCAN and if you have to do that then you might as well just convert to standard DVD Video.

Nothing wrong with the Philips DVP5992 ... in fact it is a fine choice for a region free PAL 2 NTSC covnersion DVD player that does DivX/XviD BUT keep it mind that due to TV OVERSCAN you probably can't play back most anime fan subbed DivX/XviD files.

Not your fault. It's the stupid dumb ass fan sub people that don't get it.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[sandman423]

So what would be the Best DVD Player to get for the Fan Subs?? I am just looking to put Anime Fan Sub Episodes onto DVD-R's like I am doing now...with the same steps. Do you just recommend a Regular DVD Video DVD Player?? It would be nice to be able to play anything with no issues...

Also about the FAVSC Menu with over 8 Episodes?? How do I do it? I tried adding the Scripts into ConvertXtoDVD but I get an error when I try to encode them so what do you recommend??

I was thinking on adding a Menu because it makes choosing Episodes a lot easier...Like with the FAVSC 8 Movie Menu you can Select Play All or Select Each one Seperatly...I have one issue with that though...When I put Multiple Scripts over 8 then I don't get the menu just a back to back playback which makes it harder to get to the later episodes...

I watch Anime in bed and I fall asleep so when I wake up I notice that when I Start the DVD it starts from the very beginning so I try to skip Chapters but it doesn't let me go to the next chapter usually I have to Click Skip Chapter 4 times because the Chapters are set at 5 minutes for easy access of scenes and each episode is about 23 Minutes so I Click Skip 4 times and then I have to Fast Foreward to get to the next one which is annoying on a PS2...

So Any Recommendations on how to get a Menu in FAVSC with 12 rather then 8 eps only??

I am just trying to get a menu...

I am using Half D1 for Speed Choice in FAVSC it only takes an Hour to Encode it and it is small on space...I just burned two discs with 8 Episodes each and it is only 1.6GB's I Still have 2.8 GBs left...so it would be nice to have a Menu with 10 Episodes or 12...

Please Explain.how to do it?

[guns1inger]

Continue to use FAVC, choose half-D1 or even VCD if you must put more than 3 hours on a disc, and tick the TV Overscan box on the HC Options tab.

If you want better menu options then use ConvertXtoDVD instead. You can still accommodate overscan and (I believe in version 3) half-D1, but you have a little more flexibility with menus.

Or let FAVC do it's thing without creating menus. Tick the box marked Keep Working Files, then use the streams it creates to author a disc with menus how you want them using GUIForDVDAuthor.

So many options.

[sandman423]

Thanks I will try that out Guns1inger...I will keep everyone updated..I might need some help with the GUIforDVDAuthor..

Also I keep the TV OVerscan Unclicked because I put my AVIs through FitCD Instead and just drop the avs scripts into FAVSC which adds the blocks needed so all the fansubs won't be cut off or the screen...it looks good.

[guns1inger]

Fair enough.

[Milardo]

I use Honestech DVD Authoring Studio 2.0. I can fit lots of anime on it. I use 900kbps and 64 kbps mpeg1layer 2 audio with 4:3 aspect ratio, stretched and 352x240 size. I can get 22 episodes of anime on that. The quality isn't always super sharp, but it's more than good enough.

[guns1inger]

If you like watching sub-VHS. You can do the same with FAVC by chosing the VCD option and get better quality, but it is still low.

[sandman423]

So Any recommendations on that DVD Player? Should I get the Philipps 5992?

So if I continue to keep editing my Anime DVD Fansubs like I am doing with FAVSC it should come out fine on all DVD Players right??

I found this one on Ebay...Where can I get it cheaper?

Philips DVD Player with HDMI 1080p, USB and DivX Ultra
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Philips-1080P-All-Multi-Region-Free-DVD-Player-HDMi_W0QQitemZ3...6.c0.m14.l1308


NEW Philips DVD Player HDMI DivX USB Region Free. ($38 That is with the 28 Dollar Shipping which sucks)
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Philips-DVD-Player-HDMI-DivX-USB-Region-Free-229_W0QQitemZ3700...6.c0.m14.l1308

Those are bids which sucks it will probably end up to 80 Dollars...

So any ideas of where I could buy this Great looking player online or in a store for cheaper?

I don't mind spending 65 bucks if its worth it.

I mostly watch Burned DVDs and Anime Fansubs though...I am working on building my collection with One Piece, Bleach, and Naruto Now...I so far am halfway done with Bleach and I need to make discs for Naruto and One Piece (as I Cry!!). One Piece is a HUGE SERIES and I don't know if it is over. I think it is at 383 Episodes which is insane, but so far I am happy with the series. I am currently on Episode 55...Long way to go still.

[sandman423]

Also I forgot to mention...I Don't really care about HDMI (Which I believe is HD TV Connectable) because I don't have a HD TV in my room. Just a 13 In Small CRT TV. I do own one, but I have a Sony/VHS Dvd Player for the HDTV...I always watch stuff on my 13 in TV, but I know I will have to get another small TV in the near Future...

So I just want a DVD Player Similar to the Philips Posted Above without the HDMI but I believe that most of them will have HDMI Due to everyone trying to go HD Now...

I like that Philips gives you the Region Free option. It would be nice to have that because I have AVI's on this computer that are PAL Format so I wouldn't have to convert them Via VirtualDub and BeSweetGUI to change the PAL to NTSC I Could just make a DVD and pop it into the DVD Player and it would play.

[sandman423]

Well How do I work with GUI for DVDAuthor...How do I make the DVD Menus...

I am in the Working File and I see Titles and .m2v's


How do I make DVD Menus for my 12 Episodes??

Please explain...I just want simple Background Image and 12 Little Boxes probably 4 Little Boxes perf Menu with the Same Background Image and the Heading will say One Piece Eps 64-76

[guns1inger]

Each episode will have an .m2v and a .ac3 file, which is the video and audio stream respectively. Start here : http://download.videohelp.com/gfd/GUI_DVDauthor_eng_07.htm and go for it.

[sandman423]

Can't you just give me a easy way I am reading this and it is way confusing to many options..

So Far the only things I want are these..

Background Image (JPEG), One Piece Title (Figured it out), and only the Episode buttons....Thats it...

I don't need anything fancy.

[dadrab]

There are several thing's I noticed while reading through this thread...

First, I'm not sure you're picking up what they're putting down about "overscan." It's not a function of the player as much as it is a function of the television.

Next, just about any piece of shit DVD's going to look pretty good on a 13" set. I'm not trying to cast aspersions on your set, by any means. I'm just pointing out that the larger the set, the more careful you need to be about building a quality DVD. The self-same disc that looks great on your set now will not look so great on a large LCD, plasma or even CRT set.

You mentioned several times about the formatting of the discs you bought being in "MPEG04." If you're watching them on a PS2, they're MPEG2 or standard DVD format. While other formats are nice and SOME players can play them (DivX, Xvid, etc.) rest assured your PS2 won't. The Sony might not either.

It would appear to me that you're in an awfully big hurry to just get the episodes on disc. Ok, cool, so if you get them on disc in a hurried, haphazard manner with 13 or 26 or how-ever-many on a disc...

...what have you got?

Take a chill, man. Learn what you're doing - really DOING. As much as we'd like to try to get around it, Einstein was right..."For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Keeping that in mind, putting DivX on a disc is an action - not being able to play the disc at night before bed because the player and disc aren't compatable is a consequence.

Putting too much video on a disc is an action - kicking yourself in the ass because they look like crap on a larger sized set is a consequence.

Not learning how to build a nice disc with pleasing menus is an action - having to start at the beginning of a disc and find the last episode you remember watching before you fell asleep is a consequence.

Are you seeing a pattern here?

You're probably sick of people telling you that "you get what you pay for." It's true not only with money, but with most things in life.

You can have what you want, but there are other things you will have to give up.