How do I change from MKA to AVI?

[rocky12]

I don't know if it's better or worse. All I know it's off. I knew it all along, once I started it's going to be like this. I tried the following -400,-500, and -600 but it's still off.

I said: "don't load the non english track"

Translation: load only the english track, not other stuff

Is it better or worse? try a different value until it syncs up. You haven't said anything about this. If you want answers provide more info.

Remember this only works for the constant delay problem...which you haven't verified yet

[poisondeathray]

Then try a positive value use larger increments....use your imagination

1) Is audio is early or late?
2) Confirm that this is constant sync problem

This shouldn't be this difficult. It should only take 1 min to fix with trial and error...

[rocky12]

Then try a positive value use larger increments....use your imagination

1) Is audio is early or late?
2) Confirm that this is constant sync problem

This shouldn't be this difficult. It should only take 1 min to fix with trial and error...

Well let me see. I started this thread at 4:57am this morning and then went to bed and still can't get synch fixed.

1.) It looks like it's late but I can be wrong.

2.) How do I find out if it's constant synch?

[poisondeathray]

Enter a bigger value to hear the difference more clearly, like -1500ms, or -3000ms (did you remember to checkmark the box???) Are you hearing the audio shift at all with a bigger value???

Conceptually, this is audio early: V=video A=audio
_VVVVV
AAAAA
For this, enter a +delay

this is audio late:
VVVVV
_AAAAA
For this, enter a -delay

(Sorry spaces don't show up for some reason so I used "_")

Constant sync means it's like 1 sec all the way through. Just play it and skip to the end. If its in sync at the beginning but gradually gets worse out of sync, you have a length mismatch - this is an entirely different problem.

[rocky12]

We my friend have a whole problem......It's off all the way through.

Enter a bigger value to hear the difference more clearly, like -1500ms, or -3000ms (did you remember to checkmark the box???) Are you hearing the audio shift at all with a bigger value???

Conceptually, this is audio early: V=video A=audio
_VVVVV
AAAAA
For this, enter a +delay

this is audio late:
VVVVV
_AAAAA
For this, enter a -delay

(Sorry spaces don't show up for some reason so I used "_")

Constant sync means it's like 1 sec all the way through. Just play it and skip to the end. If its in sync at the beginning but gradually gets worse out of sync, you have a length mismatch - this is an entirely different problem.

[poisondeathray]

Is your DVD decrypted properly? Did you use DVDFAB or ANYDVD?

How did you convert your VOB to AVI? Did you use virtualdubmod?

Run mediainfo on
1) your audioless .avi
2) your demuxed .AC3
3) your converted .mp3

You are looking for any duration (running time) discrepancies. If one is too long, there is going to be audio sync problems. This can be from bad decryption or bad encoding.

[poisondeathray]

We my friend have a whole problem......It's off all the way through.

Do you mean off constant? or worsening? (it can be off 1sec at the beginning and 1sec by the end and still be the "constant" delay problem)

If its 1sec off at the beginning and 2sec off at the end its the other problem.

Please confirm

[rocky12]

AC3: 1 of 3 audio files:




General : I:\Home Alone 1\dvd2avi T80 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
Format : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Length : 135 MiB for 1h 38mn 37s 536ms

Audio #0 : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz


2 of 3 AC3

General : I:\Home Alone 1\dvd2avi T81 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
Format : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Length : 135 MiB for 1h 38mn 37s 536ms

Audio #0 : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz


3 of 3 AC3

General : I:\Home Alone 1\dvd2avi T82 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
Format : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Length : 135 MiB for 1h 38mn 37s 536ms

Audio #0 : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz



1 of 3 MP3:

General : I:\Home Alone 1\sound1.mp3
Format : MPEG Audio at 192 Kbps
Length : 135 MiB for 1h 38mn 37s 584ms

Audio #0 : MPEG Audio at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz





2 of 3 MP3


General : I:\Home Alone 1\sound2.mp3
Format : MPEG Audio at 192 Kbps
Length : 135 MiB for 1h 38mn 37s 584ms

Audio #0 : MPEG Audio at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz


3 of 3 MP3



General : I:\Home Alone 1\sound3.mp3
Format : MPEG Audio at 192 Kbps
Length : 135 MiB for 1h 38mn 37s 584ms

Audio #0 : MPEG Audio at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz



My AVI:


General
Complete name : I:\Home Alone 1\2ndpass.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.11 GiB
Duration : 1h 38mn
Overal bit rate : 1605 Kbps
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Muxing mode : Packet Bitstream
Codec ID : DX50
Codec ID/Hint : DivX 5
Duration : 1h 38mn
Bit rate : 1600 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 400 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.222
Stream size : 1.10 GiB
Writing library : DivX 2676

Is your DVD decrypted properly? Did you use DVDFAB or ANYDVD?

How did you convert your VOB to AVI? Did you use virtualdubmod?

Run mediainfo on
1) your audioless .avi
2) your demuxed .AC3
3) your converted .mp3

You are looking for any duration (running time) discrepancies. If one is too long, there is going to be audio sync problems. This can be from bad decryption or bad encoding.

[rocky12]

It's off all the way through the whole movie.

We my friend have a whole problem......It's off all the way through.

Do you mean off constant? or worsening? (it can be off 1sec at the beginning and 1sec by the end and still be the "constant" delay problem)

If its 1sec off at the beginning and 2sec off at the end its the other problem.

Please confirm

[poisondeathray]

It looks like the duration is the same (i.e. probably constant sync problem)

Just use bigger values until its right. Each attempt should only take 1-2seconds. Push play. Enter a new value, push play etc....Don't save until in sync

1) Try bigger values -2000ms to more easily tell the difference. If the audio is too early, adjust it smaller like -1500ms.

2) Confirm that you have followed the steps outlined, and you can actually hear the audio shifting

Make sure you only are using 1 audio (i.e. the english mp3)

[rocky12]

It looks like the duration is the same (i.e. probably constant sync problem)

Just use bigger values until its right. Each attempt should only take 1-2seconds. Push play. Enter a new value, push play etc....Don't save until in sync

1) Try bigger values -2000ms to more easily tell the difference. If the audio is too early, adjust it smaller like -1500ms.

2) Confirm that you have followed the steps outlined, and you can actually hear the audio shifting

Make sure you only are using 1 audio (i.e. the english mp3)

Why is AC3 536ms and MP3 is 584ms? Can I just use the 584ms for Interleaving?

I did follow the steps but it's not working.

[poisondeathray]

You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between the 2 files. You can try and use the AC3 file instead of the MP3.

Can you confirm you can hear the audio shifting at ALL?

Sorry, I can't give you any more help, or make the steps any simpler.

Good luck

[rocky12]

You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between the 2 files. You can try and use the AC3 file instead of the MP3.

Can you confirm you can hear the audio shifting at ALL?

Sorry, I can't give you any more help, or make the steps any simpler.

Good luck

No I don't hear it shifting.

[poisondeathray]

You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between the 2 files. You can try and use the AC3 file instead of the MP3.

Can you confirm you can hear the audio shifting at ALL?

Sorry, I can't give you any more help, or make the steps any simpler.

Good luck

No I don't hear it shifting.

Did you checkmark the box?

[rocky12]

You shouldn't be able to tell the difference between the 2 files. You can try and use the AC3 file instead of the MP3.

Can you confirm you can hear the audio shifting at ALL?

Sorry, I can't give you any more help, or make the steps any simpler.

Good luck

No I don't hear it shifting.

Did you checkmark the box?

Yes I did.

[poisondeathray]

enter a value like -3000 (you have to push 'enter' as well)

that's a 3 second (negative) delay

can you hear the difference?

[rocky12]

enter a value like -3000 (you have to push 'enter' as well)

that's a 3 second (negative) delay

can you hear the difference?

I give up on it.

[poisondeathray]

Confirm that you pushed "enter" and you still can't hear a difference????

I just tried this and 100% sure it works.

Cheers anyway

[guns1inger]

Open the file in media player classic. Use the + and - keys on the numeric keypad to alter the delay. Keep shifting until the audio is in sync. Note the delay (shown bottom left corner when adjusting) and use this number in virtualdub.

If you can't get it working, the problem is you. The advice given by Mr Deathray has been spot on. I prefer the MPC method simply because it can be done on the fly, but you still end up in virtualdub in the end.