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  1. This is a thing i always wanted to know..
    I always wanted to re-encode some movies for watching in 16:9 TV and on my 4:3 too, but with no distortions!
    Is it possible to record a wide movie that plays full screen 16:9 and when played in 4:3 display, make a way to the movie be letterboxed?

    sorry for the bad english..
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    Originally Posted by FrancoAnselmo
    This is a thing i always wanted to know..
    I always wanted to re-encode some movies for watching in 16:9 TV and on my 4:3 too, but with no distortions!
    Is it possible to record a wide movie that plays full screen 16:9 and when played in 4:3 display, make a way to the movie be letterboxed?

    sorry for the bad english..
    Two issues.
    1. Most 16:9 TV sets will overscan (lost edges).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

    2. DVD players and most software players can be set to play 16:9 material in letterbox or "panscan" (defaults to sides chopped off).
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  3. Originally Posted by FrancoAnselmo
    Is it possible to record a wide movie that plays full screen 16:9 and when played in 4:3 display, make a way to the movie be letterboxed?
    Yes, virtually every commercial widescreen DVD does this.
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    If you encode and author a DVD as 16:9, and have the player on your widescreen TV configured to output 16:9 widescreen, and the player on your 4:3 TV set to output 4:3 letterbox, you will get what you want.

    It is not quite so simple for Xvid/Divx encoded files, as players do not follow a standard set of rules when it comes to treating aspect ratios sensibly.
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  5. Most authoring software do it automatically but here's a guide:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/topic326253.html
    If you have a 16:9 video then select 16:9.
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  6. And what is that anamorphic thing?
    Is that anything to do with it?
    Thanks for all the answers!

    Ah, gunslinger, you mean my tv must be set to 4:3 letterbox? I dont have a "player" on my tv...
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    A brief explanation, both 16:9 and 4:3 can use the resolution of 720X480. If for example you have camcorder that records in anamorphic 16:9 it will produce a video like this, the aspect is not adjusted its just a screenshot at the resolution of the video.



    You'll author this as 16:9 or set a flag to tell devices like DVD player that its 16:9, as Gunslinger mentioned if your DVD player is set to letterbox 16:9 material it will see the flag and adjust the aspect accordingly adding black bars top and bottom. The black bars are not part of the video file but created by the DVD player.

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  8. What is this guy doing? -> https://forum.videohelp.com/topic326253.html

    Oh, coalman, im just converting vids, i dont have a camcorder or a camera.
    And if the video is not anamorphic, what would be the results?
    I noticed if i get a wide video and put black bars on top and bottom, the wide would play well too, but it consumes a lot of time!
    Thank you for the attention!
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    You need to set the flag according to what the source is otherwise the aspect will be wrong. DVD only supports 16:9 or 4:3. Other aspects would require letterboxing being added to the video file itself.
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  10. So what do YOU think about getting a movie with a resolution of 704x480 and put in it black bars to fit the 4:3 screen
    The movie will be fullscreen on a 16:9 without streching? Cause if i encode in 16:9 it'll be stretched on a 4:3 if the tv doesnt have letterboxing, right The letterbox is a feature on players, then

    And if you can explain to me what is those 2:3 pulldown, 3:2.. What should i do to get a 25fps to be 29fps. I've been reading but the thing gets too complicated.

    What do you think about MainConcept codec? I'm using adobe media encoder but i think i'll change to tmpgenc.
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  11. Originally Posted by jagabo
    Originally Posted by FrancoAnselmo
    Is it possible to record a wide movie that plays full screen 16:9 and when played in 4:3 display, make a way to the movie be letterboxed?
    Yes, virtually every commercial widescreen DVD does this.
    HOW?

    Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK
    Most authoring software do it automatically but here's a guide:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/topic326253.html
    If you have a 16:9 video then select 16:9.
    This way? I think Encore CS3 does this automatically, doesn't it?
    OK. I'm not understanding this anamorphic thingy. The letterbox i understood that it's about the flag.
    Anamorphic is the thing i DONT WANT, then? Cause it stretches the video?
    Anamorphic is BAD?
    I thought all vids would stretch when played on different aspect ratios.
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    Originally Posted by FrancoAnselmo
    So what do YOU think about getting a movie with a resolution of 704x480 and put in it black bars to fit the 4:3 screen |
    What is the source? 704x480i implies an ATSC DTV capture or an MPeg2 camcorder from certain manufacturers.
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  13. Originally Posted by FrancoAnselmo
    Originally Posted by jagabo
    Originally Posted by FrancoAnselmo
    Is it possible to record a wide movie that plays full screen 16:9 and when played in 4:3 display, make a way to the movie be letterboxed?
    Yes, virtually every commercial widescreen DVD does this.
    HOW?
    Exactly the way thecoalman explained it. The widescree image is squeezed into the same size frame as a 4:3 image. The DVD includes a "flag" that tell the DVD player to stretch the image back out when it plays the video. On a 16:9 TV the 16:9 image will fill the screen. On a 4:3 TV the DVD player will squash the image vertially and add letterboxing to the top and bottom.

    Originally Posted by FrancoAnselmo
    OK. I'm not understanding this anamorphic thingy. The letterbox i understood that it's about the flag.
    Anamorphic is the thing i DONT WANT, then? Cause it stretches the video?
    Anamorphic is BAD?
    No, anamorphic good. With an anamorphic 16:9 encoding the picture fills the full 720x480 frame of the DVD. With a letterboxed 16:9 encoding the picture only fills a 720x360 portion of the frame, the rest of the frame is filled with black borders. So you get better resolution on 16:9 TVs with an anamorphic DVDs.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic
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