burns fails. help

[dymx]

I have been burning dvd's for several years now but have noticed sometimes when I burn a dvd and then try to make a copy of the dvd already burned it fails, other time it will work. Usually when I buy 100 dvd-rs about 80% of them come out fine and the others fail during the burning process. Why is this? It's not the media I use because I use taiyo yuden and verbatim.

[redwudz]

How old is your burner? What model and brand? I've used TY and Verbs for several years on probably 5 different burners and out of several hundred discs I may have had one or two failures. And that was more likely my fault than the burner.

Also, what program are you burning them with and what type of failure did you have? Unreadable or skips? Problem during the read or the burn? It occasionally happens that a burner is not able to read a disc it created.

And how are you copying the DVD? Rip it to your hard drive, then burn from that? Or on the fly?

You should have much better than a 80% success rate. BTW, even TY and Verbatim don't work perfectly with all burners. There seem to be a rare few that don't get along with those brands.

[dymx]

My burner is about a year old. It's a Sony AW-G170A. I've tried nero burning rom, vso copy to dvd, satiera, dvd shrink. Sometime if one doesn't work another will but I have gotten errors several times from all. I Rip it to my hard drive, then burn from that. here's the log from a file I burned a few hours ago.


6/16/2008 1:52:23 PM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
6/16/2008 1:52:22 PM critical Process cancelled
6/16/2008 1:18:40 PM info Sending anonymous statistics...
6/16/2008 1:16:34 PM info Finalizing...
6/16/2008 1:16:34 PM error Write error at 384416 (16) - Code 05 21 02 [Illegal request, Invalid address for Write]
6/16/2008 1:14:47 PM info Lead-in burning time (mS) 30001
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Start Write Buffer
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Start writing...
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Init success: DVD-R SAO
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Writing speed requested x6.0, effective x5.0
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Writing session #1 and closing disc.
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Open Image file "C:\Documents and Settings\Serenity\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_06162008_131333_250.cache"
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Required sector size : 2070240
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Available sector size : 2298496
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Available write speed: 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x
6/16/2008 1:13:35 PM info Media ID: TYG02
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Volume name: "Bleach"
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Blank or incomplete DVD
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Detected media $0011 : DVD-R
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Finished browsing files - Data size 3.95 Gb.
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info File scan complete: 24 files, 2 directories
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Start Browsing file structures
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 17, function 0
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 18, function 0
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 18, function 0
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 20, function 1
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 20, function 1
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Support Media : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Writing device used : 0:0:0 - SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A 1.70 [J] (Usb)
6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 - Async. Access mode
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info Using DVD Video filelist creation mode.
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info ParamStr 4 = "/writespeed=6.0"
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info ParamStr 3 = "/writedevice=J"
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info ParamStr 2 = "/volumename=Bleach 103 Ishida, Exceeding the"
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info ParamStr 1 = "/dvdvideofl=C:\Documents and Settings\Serenity\Application Data\Vso\~c2c_fl.tmp"
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info ParamStr 0 = "C:\PROGRA~1\VSOdvd\COPYTO~1\CopyToCD.exe"
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info Version 4.0.4.60
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info ExeName : "C:\PROGRA~1\VSOdvd\COPYTO~1\CopyToCD.exe"
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info 32 bits native system
6/16/2008 1:13:32 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************

[filmboss80]

I've had Nero choke on Verbatims and TYs in the past. That's why I ditched it for ImgBurn. Nary a problem after that.

[redwudz]

Nothing obvious in that log. This line is a write error where the address was incorrect, but doesn't seem to be a fatal error.
6/16/2008 1:16:34 PM error Write error at 384416 (16) - Code 05 21 02 [Illegal request, Invalid address for Write]

But I did notice this line:

6/16/2008 1:13:33 PM info Writing device used : 0:0:0 - SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A 1.70 [J] (Usb)

It this an external burner? If so, that may relate to the first error.

I have a Sony 170A around here somewhere, but never noticed any problems with TY media or burning.
BTW, Shrink has no burning program. It uses DVD Decrypter, or probably Nero, in your case.

I would try ImgBurn instead, and if you have a problem, post one of those logs.

[JohnnyBob]

Could be a slow system, and there are several things that might help...
--do a system maintenance
--kill all unnecessary software and processes
--burn from the main master internal drive, rather than from slave or external drives
--burn at a slower speed

Or it could be a dirty drive or environment. Blow it out with compressed air. Get a HEPA air purifier to clean your environmental air. Wear a hairnet if you have dandruff... No kidding! A tiny piece of junk (dust, dandruff, bug, or whatever) on the disc surface can kill a burn. Presumably you avoid fingerprints(?).

[classfour]

If it's an IDE drive in an external enclosure, it could be a bad USB interface in the external enclosure. Other than that: The RAM was a little on the light side if reported correctly (512MB), and if there is something trying to access the RAM during the burn......

[orsetto]

I would second classfour's reply, on both points. The RAM seems a little short for DVD burning, *especially* with an external USB enclosure. In my experience with an assortment of PCs, both Windows XP Pro and Macintosh OSX, external USB burners are much more finicky than internal drives and give me a much higher coaster rate, about the 20% loss that you report. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the failures, the USB burner will just randomly blink and blow the burn. USB2 is OK for hard drives and other types of hardware but does seem to have trouble with DVD burning (just as the earlier USB1 CD burners were troublesome). There's just something about optical media burning that USB chokes on, which is a real PITA for some laptop and Apple users who can't install internal IDE or SATA burners.

[dymx]

Could be a slow system, and there are several things that might help...
--do a system maintenance
--kill all unnecessary software and processes
--burn from the main master internal drive, rather than from slave or external drives
--burn at a slower speed

Or it could be a dirty drive or environment. Blow it out with compressed air. Get a HEPA air purifier to clean your environmental air. Wear a hairnet if you have dandruff... No kidding! A tiny piece of junk (dust, dandruff, bug, or whatever) on the disc surface can kill a burn. Presumably you avoid fingerprints(?).

Hi, My dvd burner is external. I just tried a burn with imgburn and vso copytodvd and here are both logfiles. oh, I have another compuer that has more ram and several dvds have failed on that also. Do external burners have a lot of problems? would you suggest getting an internal?
for this logfile i verifiedit and it failed . whren i play in on my dvd player it play fine until the last 2 minutes.

I 11:11:02 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!
I 11:11:02 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 11:11:02 Total Physical Memory: 227,824 KB - Available: 112,360 KB
I 11:11:04 Initialising SPTI...
I 11:11:04 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 11:11:04 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
I 11:11:30 Operation Started!
I 11:11:30 Building Image Tree...
I 11:11:30 Checking Directory Depth...
I 11:11:30 Calculating Totals...
I 11:11:30 Preparing Image...
I 11:11:31 Checking Path Length...
I 11:11:31 Contents: 31 Files, 2 Folders
I 11:11:31 Size: 3,450,079,232 bytes
I 11:11:31 Sectors: 1,684,609
I 11:11:31 Image Size: 3,450,699,776 bytes
I 11:11:31 Image Sectors: 1,684,912
I 11:11:31 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 11:12:49 Operation Started!
I 11:12:49 Building Image Tree...
I 11:12:49 Checking Directory Depth...
I 11:12:49 Calculating Totals...
I 11:12:49 Preparing Image...
I 11:12:49 Checking Path Length...
I 11:12:49 Contents: 31 Files, 2 Folders
I 11:12:49 Size: 3,450,079,232 bytes
I 11:12:49 Sectors: 1,684,609
I 11:12:49 Image Size: 3,450,699,776 bytes
I 11:12:49 Image Sectors: 1,684,912
I 11:12:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 11:13:07 Operation Started!
I 11:13:07 Building Image Tree...
I 11:13:07 Checking Directory Depth...
I 11:13:07 Calculating Totals...
I 11:13:07 Preparing Image...
I 11:13:07 Checking Path Length...
I 11:13:07 Contents: 31 Files, 2 Folders
I 11:13:07 Size: 3,450,079,232 bytes
I 11:13:08 Sectors: 1,684,609
I 11:13:08 Image Size: 3,450,699,776 bytes
I 11:13:08 Image Sectors: 1,684,912
I 11:13:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:07
I 11:13:14 Operation Started!
I 11:13:14 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 11:13:14 Source File Sectors: 1,684,912 (MODE1/2048)
I 11:13:14 Source File Size: 3,450,699,776 bytes
I 11:13:14 Source File Volume Identifier: ss
I 11:13:14 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 11:13:14 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 11:13:15 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 11:13:15 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A 1.70 (J (USB)
I 11:13:15 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)
I 11:13:15 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
I 11:13:15 Write Mode: DVD
I 11:13:15 Write Type: DAO
I 11:13:15 Write Speed: 6x
I 11:13:15 Link Size: Auto
I 11:13:15 Test Mode: No
I 11:13:15 OPC: No
I 11:13:15 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 11:13:16 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 11:13:17 Writing LeadIn...
I 11:14:00 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1684911)
I 11:14:00 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1684911)
W 11:20:43 Failed to Write Sectors 1661760 - 1661791 - Reason: No Additional Sense Information
W 11:20:43 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 11:20:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:43 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:44 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 11:20:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:45 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 11:20:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 11:20:56 Retrying (21)...
W 11:20:56 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
E 11:21:02 Failed to Write Sectors 1661760 - 1661791 - Reason: No Additional Sense Information
E 11:21:02 Next Writable Address: 1661792
I 11:21:02 Synchronising Cache...
W 11:21:39 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.
E 11:21:39 Failed to Write Image!
I 11:21:39 Exporting Graph Data...
I 11:21:39 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Serenity\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\SONY_DVD_RW_AW-Q170A_1.70_WEDNESDAY-JUNE-18-2008_11-13_AM_TYG02_6x.ibg
I 11:21:39 Export Successfully Completed!
E 11:21:39 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:08:25
I 11:21:39 Average Write Rate: 7,894 KB/s (5.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,638 KB/s (6.2x)


vso copytodvd log


6/18/2008 9:49:13 AM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
6/18/2008 9:49:11 AM critical Process cancelled
6/18/2008 9:47:04 AM info Sending anonymous statistics...
6/18/2008 9:45:40 AM info Finalizing...
6/18/2008 9:45:39 AM error Write error at 1934992 (16) - Code 05 21 02 [Illegal request, Invalid address for Write]
6/18/2008 9:37:47 AM info Lead-in burning time (mS) 30001
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Start Write Buffer
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Start writing...
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Init success: DVD-R SAO
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Writing speed requested x6.0, effective x5.0
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Writing session #1 and closing disc.
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Open Image file "C:\Documents and Settings\Serenity\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_06182008_092050_750.cache "
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Required sector size : 2189984
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Available sector size : 2298496
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Available write speed: 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Media ID: TYG02
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Blank or incomplete DVD
6/18/2008 9:36:37 AM info Detected media $0011 : DVD-R
6/18/2008 9:36:36 AM info Retry button clicked
6/18/2008 9:34:45 AM info Write completed
6/18/2008 9:34:45 AM info Total burning time 00:13:52.562
6/18/2008 9:34:44 AM info Sending anonymous statistics...
6/18/2008 9:22:03 AM info Lead-in burning time (mS) 30001
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Start Write Buffer
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Start writing...
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Init success: DVD-R SAO
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Writing speed requested x6.0, effective x5.0
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Writing session #1 and closing disc.
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Open Image file "C:\Documents and Settings\Serenity\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_06182008_092050_750.cache "
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Required sector size : 2189984
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Available sector size : 2298496
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Available write speed: 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x
6/18/2008 9:20:51 AM info Media ID: TYG02
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Volume name: "The Philosopher's Stone"
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Blank or incomplete DVD
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Detected media $0011 : DVD-R
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Finished browsing files - Data size 4.18 Gb.
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info File scan complete: 35 files, 2 directories
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Start Browsing file structures
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 17, function 0
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 18, function 0
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 18, function 0
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 20, function 1
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler manufacturer : (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info IDE Controler Description : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 20, function 1
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Support Media : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Writing device used : 0:0:0 - SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A 1.70 [J] (Usb)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 - Async. Access mode
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Using DVD Video filelist creation mode.
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info ParamStr 4 = "/writespeed=6.0"
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info ParamStr 3 = "/writedevice=J"
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info ParamStr 2 = "/volumename=The Philosopher's Stone"
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info ParamStr 1 = "/dvdvideofl=C:\Documents and Settings\Serenity\Application Data\Vso\~c2c_fl.tmp"
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info ParamStr 0 = "C:\PROGRA~1\VSOdvd\COPYTO~1\CopyToCD.exe"
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info Version 4.0.4.60
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info ExeName : "C:\PROGRA~1\VSOdvd\COPYTO~1\CopyToCD.exe"
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
6/18/2008 9:20:50 AM info 32 bits native system
6/18/2008 9:20:49 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************