How to Capture DV on Lossless?

[edDV]

If you saved your Premiere project file and have the source files on disk, you can point each bin or timeline clip to the source file and recover that way.

[Undead Sega]

well i do have the project file, but not the clips, thus i need to do a batch capture which is thankful because i have the tape, but as i stated in an earlier post, this is a problem:

all i need to do is re-capture the tape (which i used Scene Detect to seperate each shot needed) as exactly what ive done in college, and yet it shouldnt be a problem if one does go wrong, as it relies on the time code exactly.

so when i open my project, i get all my files on the timeline as i made it out to be, and of course they dont work because there is no actual video captured, so i highlighted the files in my project window and ordered to do a Batch Capture, but when i do this, it says that there is no tape given

[edDV]

In the future you need to get these clips from tape to hard disk and edit from the hard disk. That is normal NLE workflow. Keep the tapes as backup. You can understand now why you need backups separate from the hard disk you will be using as source for your edit.

If you are doing a lot of filtering or effects, you should consider saving the scratch disk files as well so you don't have to re-render when loading the project in the future. You can specify a project specific scratch disk directory to keep temp file names separate by project. You set the scratch disk in Premiere Preferences. Never place the scatch disk on OS drive (unless a laptop which gives you no choice).

[Undead Sega]

definately, i am considering getting another 500GB hard drive, but attaching it to an external enclosure, so it would be THE hard drive with all rushes and footage, basically, my NLE drive. and from what uve mentioned, i am strctly aware of not too long ago, this is what college and self experience taught me, but thanks for refreshing my mind

but as of now, isnt there any way to bypass or to correct this 'no tape given' thing?

[edDV]

I don't think I can help further. You just need to capture those tapes to disk.

[Undead Sega]

I am aware that u mentioned that u cannot help me any further, but i thought i would attach this, which could help shed some light on what im talking about.

This is my problem.

[aedipuss]

don't use an nle to capture. use winDV to capture and then import the files into the nle.

[Undead Sega]

well i needed those project video files to be batch captured inorder for the edited piece in the timeline to work, but thats what i get, it need to be precise.

[edDV]

As mentioned above, I would re-capture clips using the in/out time codes in your EDL, then point the bin or timeline clip to the new DV-AVI capture file. You do this clip by clip. This works if you named each tape with a different name.

Premiere capture will auto cap to specified in/out time codes.

[Undead Sega]

i see, and may i ask, how would u give a tape a name, cause im sure i might have, but it seems i didnt, shed some light to make sure i was correct or wrong?

[edDV]

When you capture a tape in Premiere, it asks for a unique tape name. All captured clips are then associated with that tape in the database until you load another tape*.

If you gave all tapes the same name or didn't name the tape, how would the database know what in/out time code is associated with what tape?

None of this matters if the clips were imported from a hard drive (e.g. captured by WinDV). In that case the HDD volume, directory and file name take the place of the tape name.


*Some of this is automated if you use pro DVCAM or DVCPro cameras that have flash chips on each tape. The chip contains a unique tape volume code, user data and a directory list for all clips on the tape.

[Undead Sega]

oh right that bit, i was very sure that i did name the tape, but then i could be confused for the Clip Name. Is there a way to bypass this or to make the shots from one tape be identified to be captured?

and my source is from tapes, and not the hard drive.

[edDV]

There are different ways to organize a project. You seem to want the off-line/on-line model where tapes are loaded and edited with a temporary off-line editor with an EDL as a the result. The EDL and tapes are then taken to an on-line bay where tapes are recaptured to the bin (only the tapes and clips used in the edit) and then imported to the timeline under control of the EDL. This is the way long form has been done since the mid 1980's in post houses. It usually takes an expert technician to manage this process.

With the exception of film source projects, modern non-linear editors (since ~1998) edit the source directly instead of using the off-line model. Hard disks are cheap enough where all needed material can be loaded to disk and edited from there eliminating the need to recapture from source tape. Sometimes the amount of tape material exceeds disk space. In those cases you edit by scene or log (sort) the clips needed before capture to disk.

It is possible as I described above to unload and reload NLE projects even to different computers if the source files, temp files (scratch disk) and project file are saved to a hard drive. If necessary temp files can be rendered again.

[Undead Sega]

I've worked it out! i am not using CS3 on my PC and with the offline or unlinked files in the Project window, all i have to do is scroll right until i reach the title 'Tape Name' and i am able to click on each file under that title and label it! Once i have done so with one file, i highlighted it and went to File > Batch Capture, and wonderfuly, it went straight to wanting to capture the clip!