MOV to MOV?

[darogo]

Hi,
I have a little issue I'm hoping someone can help me resolve. Basically, I need to take a photo slideshow created in iView Media Pro and compress it to make it smaller (to send to clients). A 720x480 .mov file, with audio, comes out of iView at 156MB, not acceptable to e-mail to someone.

I brought that into ffmpegx and tried to run it out several different ways. Sometimes I get an error, other times it works, but with no audio. The file that did work (with no audio), was 32 MB, better (still maybe not ideal, but better). Could someone please let me know how you think I might be able to get this to work? I've included a pic of the "movie inspector" in quicktime, so you can see the parameters of the iView movie has.

Here's the result default target of avi DivX which stops after a second:
The h option must be an integer: 480
Option vop: Error while parsing scale parameter h (480
Tue May 13 23:55:10 PDT 2008
MEncoder dev-CVS-051126-18:35-3.3 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
Mac OSX static build for ffmpegX
AltiVec found
CPU: PowerPC
Exiting... (error parsing cmdline)

Here's what happened when I tried a .mp4:
Encoding started on Tue May 13 23:55:45 PDT 2008
FFmpeg version CVS, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard
Mac OSX universal build for ffmpegX
libavutil version: 49.0.0
libavcodec version: 51.9.0
libavformat version: 50.4.0
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '/Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov':
Duration: 24:00:00.0, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 15 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng), 0.00 fps(r): Video: mjpeg, yuvj422p, 720x480
Stream #0.1(eng), 30.00 fps(r): Video: mjpeg, 720x480
Stream #0.2(eng), 30.00 fps(r): Video: mjpeg, 720x480
Stream #0.3(eng): Audio: mp2, 44100 Hz, stereo
Stream #0.4(eng), 0.01 fps(r): Video: mjpeg, 720x480
Incorrect frame rate

The one that works is DVD mpeg2enc, but there's no audio in the resulting mpg. Here's the log:
Encoding started on Wed May 14 00:32:04 PDT 2008
INFO: [yuvscaler] yuvscaler 1.9.0 (15-02-2004) is a general scaling utility for yuv frames
INFO: [yuvscaler] (C) 2001-2004 Xavier Biquard <xbiquard@free.fr>, yuvscaler -h for help, or man yuvscaler
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING AltiVec for MOTION!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING AltiVec for TRANSFORM!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING AltiVec for PREDICTION!
movtoy4m
Copyright 2002-2006 Johan Lindström
All rights reserved..
++ WARN: [yuvscaler] Could not infer norm (PAL/SECAM or NTSC) from input data (frame size=720x480, frame rate=24000:1001 fps)!!
INFO: [yuvscaler] input: frame size: 720x480 pixels (518400 bytes)
INFO: [yuvscaler] input: chroma: 4:2:0 JPEG/MPEG-1 (interstitial)
INFO: [yuvscaler] input: frame rate: 24000/1001 fps (~23.976024)
INFO: [yuvscaler] input: interlace: none/progressive
INFO: [yuvscaler] input: sample aspect ratio: 1:1
INFO: [yuvscaler] from 720x480, take 720x480+0+0, NOT_INTERLACED/PROGRESSIVE
INFO: [yuvscaler] scale to 720x480, 720x480 being displayed
INFO: [yuvscaler] Scaling uses the RESAMPLE algorithm,
INFO: [yuvscaler] frame rate: 23.976 fps
INFO: [yuvscaler] Scaling ratio for width is 1 to 1
INFO: [yuvscaler] and is 1 to 1 for height
INFO: [yuvscaler] Specific downscaling routing number 4
INFO: [yuvscaler] output: frame size: 720x480 pixels (518400 bytes)
INFO: [yuvscaler] output: chroma: 4:2:0 JPEG/MPEG-1 (interstitial)
INFO: [yuvscaler] output: frame rate: 24000/1001 fps (~23.976024)
INFO: [yuvscaler] output: interlace: none/progressive
INFO: [yuvscaler] output: sample aspect ratio: 1:1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Selecting DVD with dummy navigation packets output profile
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Assuming norm NTSC
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Encoding MPEG-2 video to /Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.m2v
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Horizontal size: 720 pel
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Vertical size: 480 pel
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Aspect ratio code: 2 = 4:3 display
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Frame rate code: 1 = 24000.0/1001.0 (NTSC 3:2 pulldown converted FILM)
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Bitrate: 4000 KBit/s
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Quality factor: 3 (Quantisation = 3) (1=best, 31=worst)
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Field order for input: none/progressive
INFO: [mpeg2enc] New Sequence every 9999 Mbytes
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Assuming non-video stream of 0 Kbps
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Search radius: 16
INFO: [mpeg2enc] DualPrime: no
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Using one-pass rate control
INFO: [mpeg2enc] GOP SIZE RANGE 7 TO 15
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Setting colour/gamma parameters to "NTSC"
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Progressive format frames = 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Using default unmodified quantization matrices
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING AltiVec for QUANTIZER!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] PAR = 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Creating worker thread 0
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: getting
INFO: [mpeg2enc] NEW GOP INIT length 15
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Working: stripe 0/1 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: stripe 0 done
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: getting
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Enc1 0 0( 0) I q=3.00 [100% Intra]
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Working: stripe 0/1 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: stripe 0 done
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: getting
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Enc1 1 1( 1) P q=3.00 [3% Intra]
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Working: stripe 0/1 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: stripe 0 done
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: getting
...

INFO: [mpeg2enc] Enc1 4454 4454( 6) P q=3.00 [0% Intra]
INFO: [yuvscaler] End of stream!
INFO: [yuvscaler] Normal exit: end of stream with frame number 4457!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Working: stripe 0/1 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: stripe 0 done
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: getting
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Enc1 4455 4455( 7) P q=3.00 [0% Intra]
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Signaling last frame = 4456
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Working: stripe 0/1 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: stripe 0 done
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Worker: getting
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Enc1 4456 4456( 8) P q=3.00 [0% Intra]
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Sequence end inserted
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Guesstimated final muxed size = 28349318
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SHUTDOWN worker
FFmpeg version CVS, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard
Mac OSX universal build for ffmpegX
configuration: --enable-mp3lame --enable-gpl --disable-vhook --disable-ffplay --disable-ffserver --enable-a52 --enable-xvid --enable-faac --enable-faad --enable-amr_nb --enable-pthreads --enable-x264
libavutil version: 49.0.0
libavcodec version: 51.9.0
libavformat version: 50.4.0
built on Apr 15 2006 08:41:02, gcc: 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1666)
Input #0, wav, from '/Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.wav':
Duration: 00:03:05.8, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1411 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Audio: pcm_s16le, 44100 Hz, stereo, 1411 kb/s
Output #0, ac3, to '/Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.ac3':
Stream #0.0: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 448 kb/s
Stream mapping:
Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
Press [q] to stop encoding
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video:0kB audio:10164kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.000000%
INFO: [mplex] mplex version 1.9.0 (2.2.7 $Date: 2006/02/01 22:23:01 $)
INFO: [mplex] File /Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.m2v looks like an MPEG Video stream.
INFO: [mplex] File /Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.ac3 looks like an AC3 Audio stream.
INFO: [mplex] Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!
INFO: [mplex] Found 1 audio streams and 1 video streams
INFO: [mplex] Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile
INFO: [mplex] Multiplexing video program stream!
INFO: [mplex] Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (/Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.m2v)
INFO: [mplex] VIDEO STREAM: e0
INFO: [mplex] Frame width : 720
INFO: [mplex] Frame height : 480
INFO: [mplex] Aspect ratio : 4:3 display
INFO: [mplex] Picture rate : 23.976 frames/sec
INFO: [mplex] Bit rate : 4000000 bits/sec
INFO: [mplex] Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes
INFO: [mplex] CSPF : 0
INFO: [mplex] Scanning for header info: AC3 Audio stream 00 (/Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.ac3)
INFO: [mplex] AC3 frame size = 1792
INFO: [mplex] AC3 AUDIO STREAM:
INFO: [mplex] Bit rate : 57344 bytes/sec (448 kbit/sec)
INFO: [mplex] Frequency : 48000 Hz
INFO: [mplex] SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:
INFO: [mplex] rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 4551400
INFO: [mplex] target data-rate specified : 10080000
INFO: [mplex] Setting specified specified data rate: 10080000
INFO: [mplex] Run-in delay = 7507 Video delay = 7507 Audio delay = 11261
INFO: [mplex] New sequence commences...
INFO: [mplex] Video e0: buf= 0 frame=000000 sector=00000000
INFO: [mplex] Audio bd: buf= 0 frame=000000 sector=00000000
INFO: [mplex] Scanned to end AU 4456
INFO: [mplex] STREAM e0 completed @ frame 4456.
INFO: [mplex] STREAM bd completed @ frame 5807.
INFO: [mplex] Multiplex completion at SCR=16712557.
INFO: [mplex] Video e0: buf= 4375 frame=005784 sector=00014072
INFO: [mplex] Audio bd: buf= 14336 frame=005807 sector=00005163
INFO: [mplex] VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0
INFO: [mplex] Video Stream length: 28349318 bytes
INFO: [mplex] Sequence headers: 298
INFO: [mplex] Sequence ends : 1
INFO: [mplex] No. Pictures : 4457
INFO: [mplex] No. Groups : 298
INFO: [mplex] No. I Frames : 298 avg. size 36670 bytes
INFO: [mplex] No. P Frames : 4159 avg. size 4188 bytes
INFO: [mplex] No. B Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes
INFO: [mplex] Average bit-rate : 1220000 bits/sec
INFO: [mplex] Peak bit-rate : 4341200 bits/sec
INFO: [mplex] BUFFERING min 21 Buf max 206049
INFO: [mplex] AUDIO_STATISTICS: bd
INFO: [mplex] Audio stream length 10407936 bytes.
INFO: [mplex] Frames : 5808
INFO: [mplex] BUFFERING min 35 Buf max 1603
INFO: [mplex] MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.
mkdir: /Users/admin/Desktop/slide_show_test/test2_iView.mov.ff.mpg.DVD/: File exists

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

[Case]

Your MOV file has multiple video streams. I think you need QuickTime to decode this correctly, as your file is build on features unique to QuickTime. The DVD mpeg2enc preset defaults to Decoding with QT (a setting in the Options tab), which is why that one does convert, where other presets fail.

As for the missing audio, could it be that your viewing the output file in QuickTime Player? QuickTime Player has a limitation that it will not output AC3 audio in muxed MPEG-2 files. The audio may be okay, it could be that this player just won't let you hear it. The log from mpeg2enc shows a successful audio conversion.
You could try changing the audio conversion codec to MP2 instead of AC3, which is more playback friendly to QuickTime Player.

Most of the presets that use the ffmpeg engine (notably not the mencoder presets) allow for Decoding with QuickTime, which may help converting the video.

The most foolproof would be QuickTime Pro, though.

Small files at full resolution won't happen. I would suggest H.264/AAC at reduced size with a limited bitrate.

[darogo]

Great, thanks very much for the advice. I'll try that stuff asap....