Windows Vista....drives me crazy!

[Tumbo]

Okay... 3 weeks ago, I've bought a new super computer.

ACER M5100-5F7N AMD Phenom 9500 Quad,
8192 MB RAM,
500 GB hd, (+ 1TB extern)
DVD+-RW,
ATI X2600 PRO 512-1919 MB,
HDMI
USB 2.0
FireWire
Memory Card Reader 9-1
Windows Vista Home Premium


I have heard that Vista was cousing problems to people, but I thought that 8GB RAM would make it.

But now...I've had enough of these small bugs here and there.

Everything was so easy with XP. Why did they blurred things up so much??

Sure it has some nice features...but hey... There are many things from XP you miss.

So tell me, is it easy to uninstall Vista and install XP SP2....?

I do work a lot in Premiere/Photoshop/Dreamweaver CS3. They work the same on XP as on Vista?
Will the switch back to XP affect my video editing?

Do you have any other tips?

Greetings

[edDV]

Ask Acer if they will supply an XP OS. You will need XP drivers as well.

Vista is fine so long as you use Vista ready drivers and applications. Check with Adobe for Vista update info.

[Tumbo]

Ask Acer if they will supply an XP OS. You will need XP drivers as well.

Vista is fine so long as you use Vista ready drivers and applications. Check with Adobe for Vista update info.

I just alked to my friend, who is a computer guy, and he said that the Vista Service Pack 1 will be released in 1-2 weeks, so I should wait for that one at least.

[Dv8ted2]

Ask Acer if they will supply an XP OS. You will need XP drivers as well.

Vista is fine so long as you use Vista ready drivers and applications. Check with Adobe for Vista update info.

I just alked to my friend, who is a computer guy, and he said that the Vista Service Pack 1 will be released in 1-2 weeks, so I should wait for that one at least.

It has already been released. You can download it from microsoft's download center, or even window update.

[jagabo]

I belive Vista Home Premium qualifies for a free downgrade to XP. Home Basic doesn't.

[Dv8ted2]

I belive Vista Home Premium qualifies for a free downgrade to XP. Home Basic doesn't.

nope,

It is only Vista Business and Vista Ultimate.

[Scooter_NJ]

If that's the case...I want the downgrade now!

I HATE vista!

[Dv8ted2]

If that's the case...I want the downgrade now!

I HATE vista!

What is it that you are having trouble with?

[Scooter_NJ]

Much of the software/apps and I have won't run under it.

I sorely miss outlook express. I am stuck with windows mail.

I have externals that won't work under vista and I don't want to have to shell out for new stuff.

yadda yadda yadda

[Tumbo]

Ask Acer if they will supply an XP OS. You will need XP drivers as well.
Vista is fine so long as you use Vista ready drivers and applications. Check with Adobe for Vista update info.

I just alked to my friend, who is a computer guy, and he said that the Vista Service Pack 1 will be released in 1-2 weeks, so I should wait for that one at least.

It has already been released. You can download it from microsoft's download center, or even window update.

Well yes, but only for 5 languages so far. The Swedish, that I use, isn't ready yet...

[Dv8ted2]

Much of the software/apps and I have won't run under it.

Right click the exe file and select properties, select the compatibility tab, and check the box for XP SP2 compatibility. The program should now run.

I sorely miss outlook express. I am stuck with windows mail.

It is the same program, with a new name and a junkmail filter.

I have externals that won't work under vista and I don't want to have to shell out for new stuff.

You can get them to work if you do a little research. Why go to the hassle of using a more insecure operating system that is seven years old and more prone to have rootkits?

[Scooter_NJ]

I did the compatibility thing...no starter. However, when I went to an XP PC and had some old stuff, the compat. ability worke just fine. And no, the ones I have issues with are not those old Win98 programs. Those are now gone.

Windows Mail will NOT let you open seperate windows (close then re-open application) for 2 or more addresses. You can only have ONE window for any and all addys.

I should not have to work for my OS, it should work for me. So researching shouldn't be an obligation, although I have done that. Saw gazillion posts about stuff now being obsolete no matter how some one tried.

I wanna downgrade.

[JohnnyMalaria]

For sure you can downgrade but you can't uninstall Vista and leave your data intact. You'll need to back-up those things. A clean install is needed.

BTW, until companies like Adobe get their acts together (I *hate* Adobe!) and realise that Vista is Windows 6.0 and not part of the 2000/XP family (5.x), you shouldn't use Vista for editing etc without running into some frustrations (even more than Premiere gives on XP).

I do find Vegas 8.0 to behave well on Vista.

You mention 8GB. Why? Are you using Vista 64? If not, you have wasted money. With 32-bit XP and Vista, there's precious little point in having more than 3GB (for all kinds of reasons dealt with elsewhere on videohelp)

[edDV]

And if it is Vista 64 or XP 64, expect few apps to work well. 64bit is for developers or tightly controlled apps.

[SCDVD]

Much of the software/apps and I have won't run under it.

I sorely miss outlook express. I am stuck with windows mail.

I have externals that won't work under vista and I don't want to have to shell out for new stuff.

yadda yadda yadda

If you want to use all of that old junk you have attached to your computer, you probably ought to roll your computer all the way back to Windows 3.1. That was the last version that supported that ancient stuff that you are using. It's time to move up; dot matrix printers aren't "in" anymore. They also make color monitors now too. They're nice because they show color pictures that some people call graphics.

[Scooter_NJ]

Well mr.smarty pants...re-read what I said...regards apps and such.

[SCDVD]

Here's a link for you where you can get Windows 3.1 for only 99 cents.

http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Windows-Version-3-1_W0QQitemZ290224050881QQihZ019QQcategoryZ41...QQcmdZViewItem

I suppose if you were accustomed to have your gear shift on the column of your car that you wouldn't like a new car with the shifter on the floor either. May I suggest a 1947 Packard for you?

[Scooter_NJ]

Wow...you are an *******. And I thought that was only hearsay.

[SCDVD]

If you did a little research before you start "hating" everything, you might be surprised at all of the things you can do here in 2008.

"yadda yadda yadda"

[poisondeathray]

Scooter_NJ - I don't blame you for feeling that way. It's been over a year and there are many incompatibilities still with Vista.

To be fair it's not entirely all MS's fault, the software and drivers have not been patched or updated to be 100% compatible with Vista by the respective software & hardware companies.

Even if you disable many services, disable UAC, driver signing, turn off eye candy, turn off ready boost, customize boot options, etc, etc... it still runs slower than XP. Even with SP1.

[MJPollard]

But... but... weren't you aware that we're all ignorant Luddites for have the unmitigated gall to not upgrade to the glory that is Vista?!?!!

[Dv8ted2]

Scooter_NJ - I don't blame you for feeling that way. It's been over a year and there are many incompatibilities still with Vista.

To be fair it's not entirely all MS's fault, the software and drivers have not been patched or updated to be 100% compatible with Vista by the respective software & hardware companies.

Even if you disable many services, disable UAC, driver signing, turn off eye candy, turn off ready boost, customize boot options, etc, etc... it still runs slower than XP. Even with SP1.

The major that you forgot was the constant drive indexing. I shut this off and it runs like a champ.

[ron spencer]

XP really is still the Cat's as*....simple easy...asctually so is 2000 were it not for the driver issue. I doubt I will ever run Vista....my move from XP will be to the next OS after Vista. Vista seems like it is more of an experiment from M$oft than a real attempt at changing anything....stop-gap to get $ before next OS.

[JohnnyMalaria]

A bit of rose-tinted spectating going on, perhaps.

Today, I fired up a PIII running 2000 since I am going to donate it. It wasn't how I remember it. Things I have become so used to and dependent on in Vista and XP are missing.

[Ai Haibara]

The major that you forgot was the constant drive indexing. I shut this off and it runs like a champ.

Just out of curiosity, how did you do that? That's one of the few (minor) things that has been bugging me about Vista. I've heard you have to disable two things to stop the 'constant' indexing, though. (One of which is the Microsoft Search service, IIRC...?)

[aedipuss]

use both options 2 and 3

http://4sysops.com/archives/how-to-disable-vista%E2%80%99s-desktop-search-indexing-windows-search/

[Ai Haibara]

Thanks!

I'd already tried #2, actually, some months ago. It didn't seem to help.
As for the Vista SP1 mention, I wonder if that means I wouldn't be able to use those methods on the page you linked to after installing SP1. (I just decided to wait until SP1 showed up on Windows Update, that's all. :wink: )

[SCDVD]

Thanks!

I'd already tried #2, actually, some months ago. It didn't seem to help.
As for the Vista SP1 mention, I wonder if that means I wouldn't be able to use those methods on the page you linked to after installing SP1. (I just decided to wait until SP1 showed up on Windows Update, that's all. :wink: )

You can still disable Vista's desktop search the same way in SP1. Microsoft after being pressured changed SP1 to allow another desktop search to be selected such as Goggle Desktop search. If another desktop search program is selected, it also disables Vista's Desktop Search. Goggle's desktop search is more polite. Ir runs in the background and doesn't slow a computer down like Vista's does.

[Ai Haibara]

Okay, I finally got around to disabling the search service a few days ago. Is there a way to reclaim the drive space taken up by the search indexes, or does Windows eventually free that on its own? (I know, I know - wishful thinking, probably more so now that I've disabled the service.)

I would have done it earlier, but I was a little paranoid about making the change. :/ The system did run slightly slow after disabling it, so I went ahead and rebooted. Runs fine, now. 8)

Now if I could just find a good replacement for TweakUI proper, since MS couldn't be bothered to produce a Vista version, and the XP version apparently only works in Vista RTM or earlier... I just want to be able to prevent certain icons from (re)appearing in the Start menu, at least...