a NEW Way to put more than 99 songs on a cd!! in svcd!

[sean madison]

I was just sittin here thinkin of a way to make more than 99 songs on a single cd cuz nero will not allow u to put than 98 tracks really since track 1 isnt used, and i think i just thought of it!!!

Lets say u want to put 150 songs on a cd(this is not mp3, this is only for dvd players that support vcd\svcd but not mp3).

Get all 150 songs encoded in system audio only in tmpgenc so its format is in mpg.
Now go into mpeg tools and merge em ALTOGETHER into 1 file.
Use vcdeasy and set break points(chapters) so it seems there are 150 songs individually.

I havent tried this yet but it should work like a charm.
For detailed info about how to put that many songs on 1 cd w\o loss of audio quality, just wait til i try it.

Tell me ur feedback
Think it will work?

[vitualis]

You can't use audio only files as the video tracks (where you are limited to 98 ) and to do so = XVCD.

You can use audio only mpegs as segment items as standard S/VCDs. Here, you don't have the 98 file limit and can have as many audio files as you want (well, < 1980) -- you are limited primarily by capacity. You can't use "chapters" on segment items but then you don't need to either.

There are already several guides in existence on putting audio only content on a VCD. One is at mikk's site that creates a compliant VCD2.0 here: http://www.geocities.com/mikk999/StillsWithAudio.htm

Regards.

[sean madison]

well i know there are guides cuz i got one i made a long time ago.

So u are sayin that if i choose svcd compilation, i encode all my music in system audio only which is NOT mp2, its mpg, so u say usin svcd, there is no 98 track limit?

[vitualis]

Are you talking about Nero?

Nero can't make this because Nero isn't a flexible enough VCD authoring proggy.

The audio in S/VCDs as segment items are still encoded in MP2 and whether you have the extension of .mpg or .mp2 or .mpa or .zzz is immaterial.

You may need to mux the audio only file as a program file first (e.g., multiplex the audio file by itself in TMPGEnc on "MPEG-1 Video-CD (non-standard)".

You can make such discs with both VCD Toolkit and VCDImager (follow the previous link provided).

There is no "track limit" because all segment items are written in the first data track.

You may need a dummy video track (e.g., 4 second mpeg video track) to make it VCD compliant.

Regards.

[sean madison]

nonono, check it out
I know i encode each audio file as system audio cuz it keeps it as mpg

I was wantin to try this-
I know vcdeasy makes chaps for mpgs, so it can do this also for music

Just encode about 150 mpgs of audio(i have done this file size is only 50k larger than actual mp3 of same bitrate).

Then go into merge and cut and merge all 150 mpgs into 1 mpg.
Then use vcdeasy and set each chapter to the end of each song.

See, nero wont let u input no more than 98 different tracks cuz its a limit.

[kitty]

Try doing it and report on the results.

[sean madison]

lol, i know.

I just cant do it for another few days since my hd is totally full

[markdf]

Oh god....here we go again . The start of another entertaining topic by the video masterba, err master.

[JCPicache]

I havent tried this yet but it should work like a charm.
For detailed info about how to put that many songs on 1 cd w\o loss of audio quality, just wait til i try it.

man....talk about HYPE!

i suppose now you he'll have to to change his title to "VIDEO/AUDIO PERFORMANCE MASTER"

sheesh.

[sean madison]

Update-

Using VCDeasy will not let u put chapters in mpgs that only contain audio!

Trying other methods

[vitualis]

Shit, it's like talking to a brick wall...

sean, you are trying to re-invent the wheel and doing it in a hard, painful, non-standard way.

As I stated before and you obvious still have absolutely no idea about, you can already put 6hour+ audio on one VCD in a standard way. Do you even know what a segment play item is?

For all those people who want to try this, mikk posted a good guide on how to use audio only mpegs on VCDs. VCDs allow this in the specs so it is completely standard.

Regards.

[bbb]

Sean,

Be nice and don't deceive.

[sean madison]

oh so u wanna front me huh?

Bitch, if i ever meet u in person, ur ass is fuckin DEAD.
**** u

I dont give a ****
I kill any ************ who fucks with me

U just mad cuz i got respect from those who dont know this and i continue to find new ways to better the vcd\svcd formats.

Too bad i wouldnt never help u out, know why

Cuz u a dumb ass bitch who dont know shit about what it takes to dedicate your own time and focus on an awesome hobby that most people here do.

Grow up or die
That's strictly ur choice!

[sean madison]

virtualis, i know u can put that much on a single cd.

I have an xvcd that has 7 hr 42 min on it.

I'm talkin, i want more!!
I want it to be encoded in xvcd but hold as much as an mp3 can.

I am though, falling short of what i want.

VCDeasy does NOT let u put chapters in an mpg that only has audio.

So........
I am now trying to think of other ways.
Nero only supports 99 tracks and i beleive thats true for any prog as a dvd player in vcd probably cant read past 99 tracks, but thats just an assumption

[resnullius]

sean why don't you put 1 image and stretch it the whole lengh of the mpeg... it'll only take a bit of space (maybe a logo or something that doesn't have much color info...)
bbb man haven't you understood what we were saying last time you posted the exact same thing? man, to think you called him obnoxious.
i don't know you nor do i know him but this isn't the place for you to express your childishness, why don't you go flood a chat channel.

[sean madison]

well, here the thing though.
If i fill all the audio into 1 vid file, i wont be able to go to next song cuz they all be merged together. thats why

U know

[adamthole]

Hey, sean madison was just trying to help guys, dont be ass holes.

But, in all reality, when would you really need to burn more that 98 tracks anyways?

[sean madison]

well thats the thing though man, 98 tracks, i got 2 cds with 98 tracks in xvcd

I dont have mp3 support, i have over 3,000 mp3s burned on cds ok

I'm tryin to find a way to do this

One way which wouldnt work is put a video clip and put all audio files in that clip

That would suck cuz i couldnt go to next song.

VCDeasy wont make chapters in audio mpgs only
So, i am still thinkin

[resnullius]

maybe i'm not understanding something in your earlier post you said you'd put all the audio mpeg files togther, so at that point you could put an image that would last the whole mpeg file and then insert the chapters..
am i missing something?
or maybe add 1 image to all the different clips?

[sean madison]

no i had said that i had tried merging em all together then decided to put chaps in it right, but vcdeasy wont allow that cuz it says there has to be video in it too
Well the problem with that is, if i put vid in every clip, it would be the same as just putting each audio clip individually onto the burning compilation cuz of the 99 track limit.

So now im stuck once again, but again, there has never been a time that i havent thought of the impossible.

See i just dont wanna merge like 3 songs together cuz that would just be steupid for each track, u know

[vitualis]

no i had said that i had tried merging em all together then decided to put chaps in it right, but vcdeasy wont allow that cuz it says there has to be video in it too
Well the problem with that is, if i put vid in every clip, it would be the same as just putting each audio clip individually onto the burning compilation cuz of the 99 track limit.

So now im stuck once again, but again, there has never been a time that i havent thought of the impossible.

The answer is in the link I posted at the TOP of this thread.

sean, stop beating your head against the wall. You can put up to 1980 audio clips in MP2 format as segment play items.

This isn't impossible. It's been done, and in fact the VCD standards allow for it -- indeed, there is a guide on doing it (link at top of the thread). As I've said before, you are trying to reinvent the wheel.

Merging the tracks and then using entrypoints won't work and you will be making an XVCD.

If you use the audio files as segment items, you will be making a compliant VCD.

Once again, follow the link at the top of the thread and for you sean, ACTUALLY READ IT.

There is an example of an audio only segment play item in the Demo VCD available here: http://www.vcdimager.org/pub/vcdimager/examples/demovcd/

Regards.