Oh and I also use windows defender as well with all my pc's.
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People seem to feel that Grisoft owes them something when they've never paid the company a cent.
Everyone could just keep spreading virus and trojans if no-one offered a free solution. Most users only collect free porn and bootleg music and videos so it's no big deal if they have to keep erasing their hard drives and recollecting it. Now if you run a business where a virus could destroy you then I can see paying for protection but the last protection that I paid for left my computer full of trojans and virus and I used it for three years. I might as well have not used an antivirus program at all.
Most cities offer free clinics to the poor to control the spread of disease. It's good if you can afford to pay for everything that you want (or need) in life but most people have trouble living from week to week or month to month. Expecting people to pay for every little program or website on the internet is expecting a little too much. If you start demanding that they do then they will find other solutions or find other ways of getting it. This used to be called freenet where everyone shared everything until people figured out they could quit their real jobs and make millions (or billions) off of it.
Like I said, I can understand the ad on the screen but I can't understand a security program stooping to the same tactics that got me to install security programs in the first place by hijacking me. -
Originally Posted by TBoneit
Originally Posted by TBoneit
Originally Posted by TBoneit
Although I would never rely upon just one review or review source, I was a bit surprised to read this:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130869/article.html
I did not expect AVG to finish that low in their ranking. (They did not consider Sophos or Avira, and what used to be Ewido is now something else.) Not many free ones left, apparently. No matter how well it rated in comparative tests like these, I wouldn't install anything from Symantec again, not even if it was FREE.
Personally, I think the best first line of defense is a good hardware firewall, something much better than the firewall portion you commonly find built in to a lot of routers these days. Not cheap protection, but I think it has more than a little to do with why there has been so little getting through for the AV and AS programs to deal with, over the last few years.When in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form. -
Just a quick thought. I looked ast the posted review and it is a year old. I can say I like the feature set for version 8 of AVG Internet Security. It has already saved me from going to some malicious websites found through Google. (Search Shield)
http://www.grisoft.com/ww.support then look or this heading
1148:I am using 7.5 edition, how can I upgrade to AVG 8.0? which should lead you to
To upgrade your 7.5 commercial edition to the corresponding AVG 8.0 edition for free, please click here http://www.grisoft.com/ww.90223 and follow these steps:
1. Enter your 7.5 LN into the web form and click on the button „Upgrade to AVG 8.0“
2. The web will display your new 8.0 License Number and the appropriate AVG 8.0 installation package download link.
3. You can also enter your email address to have the new 8.0 LN delivered by email.
4. Run an AVG 8.0 installation and enter the new 8.0 LN in the application.
(to avoid some mistakes, we recommend that you use the copy and paste method
The following AVG 7.5 to AVG 8.0 FREE UPGRADES are available for all customers of AVG 7.5 commercial editions:
Current AVG 7.5 Product Corresponding AVG 8.0 Product
AVG 7.5 Anti-Virus, AVG 7.5 Anti-Spyware, AVG 7.5 Anti-Malware ................ AVG 8.0 Anti-Virus
AVG 7.5 Anti-Virus plus Firewall .................................................. ...................... AVG 8.0 Anti-Virus plus Firewall
AVG 7.5 Internet Security .................................................. .................................... AVG 8.0 Internet Security
AVG 7.5 Internet Security Home Edition .................................................. .............. AVG 8.0 Internet Security 3-pack
AVG 7.5 Anti-Virus Network Edition, AVG 7.5 Anti-Malware Network Edition ..... AVG 8.0 Anti-Virus Network Edition
AVG 7.5 Internet Security Network .................................................. ..................... AVG 8.0 Internet Security Network
AVG 7.5 Anti-Malware SBS Edition .................................................. .................... AVG 8.0 Anti-Virus SBS Edition
AVG 7.5 Internet Security SBS Edition .................................................. .............. AVG 8.0 Internet Security SBS Edition
AVG 7.5 Email Server Edition .................................................. .............................. AVG 8.0 Email Server Edition
AVG 7.5 File Server Edition .................................................. ................................. AVG 8.0 File Server Edition
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Oh yes, Just a note, I've been running Spysweeper and AVG 8 Internet security together on this test computer for 3+ weeks now and no problems so far.
OTOH I have seen Problems with Trend IS and the Spybot Search & Destroy immunization process. -
Originally Posted by budz
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i don't know about defender being useless. it's silent for sure and never pops up claiming to have killed a badie, but it seems to get the job done. i have one test winXP machine that's been worked online 16 hours a day for over a year with just defender and avg 7.5 free and it hasn't had a single infection of any kind yet.
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Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK
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PCWorld is the tabloid of the computer world. It's not even worth wiping your ass with, much less reading.
I've seen so much kooky BS in that magazine in the past 2-3 years, it's not even funny anymore. It's sad and pathetic, and I hate the people read/buy that crap thinking it's got good reviews or information.
So take anti-AVG scores with a grain of salt. Those scores all looked about even anyway, and you never know what the % actually represents.Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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I have seen Windows Defender catch things the other programs missed. They all miss some things.
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Originally Posted by redwudz
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Unfortunately Windows Defender sets it's threat assessment based not the actual threat from he software involved, but based on Microsoft's financial involvement with the companies that produce said spyware. There are several well documented cases of threats dropping from High to Low virtually overnight because M$ bought the company that was producing the software being monitored. Use it, by all means - it is certainly better than nothing, but set all threats to be removed automatically, and have spybot run at least once a week anyway. Defender also struggles to cleanup a couple of particularly nasty beasts - FunWebProducts and MyWebSearch being two of them. It finds them, but leaves most of them behind. Spybot nails them completely.
Read my blog here.
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Originally Posted by TBoneit
It looks like the key phrase here is "commercial" (i.e., paid) version; most of us who were using the AVG 7.5 free version won't be eligible for any such offer. In other words, the free AV ride from them ends with version 7.5 (?)
Avast (or Avira), here we come . . . .When in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form. -
Avira is supposed to be better than Avast or AVG but it comes with a nag popup also. There is a way to turn this nag off if you have XP but I don't think it works for us Windows 2000 users.
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Avira Anti-Vir's still got a real-time scanner, though, so if there's any virus behavior, or a suspect file written, it'll still flag it (yes, as the email/attachments are written to disc, or the email is viewed.)
The 'nag' popup is basically an ad for their pro/commercial version, that (attempts to) display when you update the virus definitions. (It'll also still display an ad if you block the popup component via firewall, but the ad won't change as often.)
I've heard that the update servers for the free version may also be a bit slower; they're certainly a little difficult to connect to at times, but there's probably a high load on them at times.If cameras add ten pounds, why would people want to eat them? -
Spyware Terminator is a possible free alternative to Defender.
I like Avira on my PC, but put Avast on friends' boxes to avoid the nags.
So, my dad wants a PC rag - if PCWorld sucks, what's the best alternative? -
O.K., no doubt about it now -- I just got a separate popup ad for AVG 8. If this is going to be a regular, intrusive thing, I would definitely be inclined to ditch AVG.
When in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form. -
AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition 8.0
Basic antivirus and antispyware protection for Windows available to download for free. Limited features, no support, for private and non-commercial use only.
http://free.grisoft.com and several pages and clicks its there. Includes Search-Shield
Would you have rushed to make the free version 8 before all the paid versions were ready? I would not have.
However it is available now. I downloaded and installed it and it is 45.5 mb in size. It now has the version 8 paid interface.
I see it looks like it was released today. Press release
http://www.grisoft.com/ww.811.ndi-93836 -
Originally Posted by usually_quiet
Sorry my new job is crazy so soemtimes I just can't visit for periods of time.
I have AVG Internet Secruity installed without the firewall but I hate software firewalls.
I upgraded to version 8 for free when it was offered and so far love it. It takes care of the few complaints I had about the program. (such as their ancient update mechanics) -
I had to have a some kind of firewall, because when I still had dial-up, my computer was under almost constant attack while I was connected, about once per minute, according to COMODO. I chose COMODO because I have only one old PC, and a router or good hardware firewall seems like overkill. I'm not seeing any firewall events at all now that I changed ISP's, which blows my mind. While I put things back together, I'm still using AVG 7.5 free, and so far, no problem. I like COMODO, and have resisted installing using AVG 8 because of the firewall, but if I can opt out of that part, maybe I'll give it a try.
I'm beginning to think that my problems might have been caused by an MS update, not a trojan or a spontaneously corrupted file. Today I read a post here from somebody else who reported symptoms similar to what I experienced, related to SP-3. I did get an update the day before my problems began, but I was tired that night, and neglected to look to see what it was before shutting down my computer.
Its not all bad though. From the amount of useless crap I've found on my hard-drive, I guess it needed a good cleaning anyway. -
Originally Posted by bigstusexy
Some remote control programs are identified as malware because they can make changes in a computer from off site. That's also one definition of a malware program. I don't blame Avast for that, It's just being through, but I haven't been able to keep it from attacking the Radmin server. AVG, for good or bad, leaves the program alone.
Only the encoder PC is connected to the internet and that's the only one that has a antivirus or software firewall protection. The other three are blocked from internet access by their Mac addresses using a hardware router.
Radmin 3.0 is a very good program if you are interested in remote control of a PC. There is also a handy freeware program available that stores the passwords so you don't have to input them every time you access a remote PC.
EDIT: I also let Defender run in the background on my Vista computers. Hasn't found anything, but hasn't caused any problems either. I also let Windows firewall run. As long as they get along with my other programs and don't cause any slowdowns, I don't have a problem with them. But I depend on a hardware firewall, Comodo software firewall, Avast, SpyBot, and SpyWare Blaster for most of my protection. None of them have failed me in quite some time. -
Originally Posted by usually_quiet
Originally Posted by usually_quietWhen in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form. -
Free AVG 8 has no firewall or antispyware, that comes into play in different paid versions such as the Internet Security version. I'm not sure why you wouldn't want a A/S function in the A/V though.
I ran the Internet security version 7.5 & 8 along with Spysweeper, AVG A/S, Windows Defender, Spybot, AdAware Free, Super A/S free and so on. No conflicts. -
Originally Posted by TBoneit
http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download-avg-anti-virus-free-edition
The reason is that I already have paid subscriptions to a couple of other A/S products, though I only use one per boot partition, if it relies primarily on an Active Mode to be effective. (On Access, as opposed to On Demand -- like Spybot without Tea Timer.) Tech Support from these vendors has cautioned against having more than one of these products in active scanning mode, due to the likelihood of serious conflicts that can hobble your system -- and I have seen that happen in the past.When in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form. -
Originally Posted by Seeker47"Shut up Wesley!" -- Captain Jean-Luc Picard
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Originally Posted by gadgetguy
I don't know why things are different now, though I am certainly happy about it. Perhaps AT&T's network was less secure than Verizon's, or perhaps something that I once had on my system and don't have anymore (due to having to re-install everything) was responsible. Although it seems the problems stopped as soon as my DSL connection was up and running. -
I haven't used AVG 8 free. I switched to Avast before it came out. But I'll wager that it does have Anti-spyware, they've just combined the virus and spyware scanning engines into one now. It's gotten difficult to separate the two types of threats anymore.
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Is it safe to say now that all the panic was over nothing? AVG was just advertising their next major update? I've always used AVG and never had any problems. Updated to 8.0 and everything's fine.
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