capture of S-Video and PCM 44.1 kHz at the same time ?

[nidi]

Hello guys,

I've been looking forever for a solution to capture either Composite or S-Video
with PCM 44.1 kHz at the same time.

does anyone know of a solution ?


I like to use MPEG2

the Pinacle system does not allow 44.1 kHz PCM


Thanks

Michael

[jman98]

Hauppauge cards allow this. I have the PVR-350 and it allows this. The PVR-250 (same exact card as the 350 except the 350 has video out) will allow it too. Please note that if you want to re-encode your video to a lower bit rate, there is some kind of bug in the Hauppauge capture software and it reports all captures as being Top Field First, but they are actually Bottom Field First. If you re-encode as Top Field First, you will get horrible field order problems. Both cards can capture MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 at a variety of resolutions. No problems to capture with composite or S-video (both are supported) and captures at 48 or 44.1 KHz are possible. Just create a template to use with whatever settings you need.

You do understand that 44.1 KHz is only good for VCD and SVCD and NOT DVD, right?

[olyteddy]

It's true that Hauppauge can capture at 44.1 or 48 KHz but not as PCM. They capture as MP2. Another possible solution would be to record the audio separately using Audacity or TotalRecorder or some such.

[nidi]

Hauppauge cards allow this. I have the PVR-350 and it allows this. The PVR-250 (same exact card as the 350 except the 350 has video out) will allow it too. Please note that if you want to re-encode your video to a lower bit rate, there is some kind of bug in the Hauppauge capture software and it reports all captures as being Top Field First, but they are actually Bottom Field First. If you re-encode as Top Field First, you will get horrible field order problems. Both cards can capture MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 at a variety of resolutions. No problems to capture with composite or S-video (both are supported) and captures at 48 or 44.1 KHz are possible. Just create a template to use with whatever settings you need.

You do understand that 44.1 KHz is only good for VCD and SVCD and NOT DVD, right?

Thanks for the info.

I'm aware that 44.1 kHz is not in the MPEG2 standard.
i intend to play the file back with a Mediaplayer.
will the Hauppauge encoding software allow me to encode MPEG2 and 44.1 kHz even if it isn't in the standard ?

Michael

[nidi]

just went to the Hauppage web site.

the PVR-350 card does not have COAX or SP/Dif inputs. I guess a soundcard with such inputs is needed, right ?

Thanks

Michael

[nidi]

It's true that Hauppauge can capture at 44.1 or 48 KHz but not as PCM. They capture as MP2. Another possible solution would be to record the audio separately using Audacity or TotalRecorder or some such.

I'd really like to capture Composite or S-video AND 44.1kHz at the same time since
it's hundreds of hours and I don't want the double workload if possible.

you're talking about templates, are these configured in the ULead Movie Factory software ?

Thanks

Michael

[olyteddy]

You can create a custom profile in the WinTV 2000 (the Hauppauge recording app) software. Pref -> Movie -> Advanced...Create a name for your profile (in the 'Save New Config' box) -> change the audio and video as desired -> then click 'Save New Config' and you should be able to use it to record.

[nidi]

You can create a custom profile in the WinTV 2000 (the Hauppauge recording app) software. Pref -> Movie -> Advanced...Create a name for your profile (in the 'Save New Config' box) -> change the audio and video as desired -> then click 'Save New Config' and you should be able to use it to record.

which soundcard do go well with the PVR-350 ?

I guess I need one that can input coax PCM ?

Thanks

Michael

[guns1inger]

What are you capturing from ?

All you probably need is a stereo RCA to 3.5MM phono jack cable. You can then use the on-board audio, or get a cheap Sound Blaster or similar.

[jagabo]

which soundcard do go well with the PVR-350 ?

None or all depending on what you mean. The software only captures audio through the card itself. It will not caputure audio via a the sound card. You plug your analog video source into the composite or s-video inputs of the card and the audio source into the stereo audio inputs on the card. You cannont capture from a digital audio source like spdif or optical. Or, if using the cable coax input and internal tuner, the audio comes from the tuner.

[Midzuki]

If you have the money to, then please buy
anything better than Fraudigies or SoundBastards.

[nidi]

which soundcard do go well with the PVR-350 ?

None or all depending on what you mean. The software only captures audio through the card itself. It will not caputure audio via a the sound card. You plug your analog video source into the composite or s-video inputs of the card and the audio source into the stereo audio inputs on the card. You cannont capture from a digital audio source like spdif or optical. Or, if using the cable coax input and internal tuner, the audio comes from the tuner.

Ok, but I asked specificaly in this thread to capture Video/S-video AND PCM 44.1 kHz at the same time.
so a PVR 350 will NOT capture Digital Audio , right?

so which solution isd out there that CAN to this ?


Thanks

Michael

[nidi]

What are you capturing from ?

All you probably need is a stereo RCA to 3.5MM phono jack cable. You can then use the on-board audio, or get a cheap Sound Blaster or similar.

I'm capturing from LaserDisc which has Composite or S-Video and COAX and SP/Dif PCM 44.1 kHz


I want to preserve the Digital audio stream that's on the LD.

Michael

[jman98]

Thanks olyteddy. I somehow overlooked the PCM requirement. I have an old Dazzle card that theoretically allowd PCM audio capture, but it never worked when I tried it. It was more theoretical than practical. No Hauppauge card that I know of can meet your audio capture requirements.

Like I said in my first post, the video requirements are no problem. However, capturing Dolby or DTS audio from a laserdisc is going to be very difficult to do. Here is an old post on the subject that talks about what you have to do:
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic191027.html
Basically you need a sound card capable of optical in capture. I don't know of any TV card that supports this.

[nidi]

Thanks olyteddy. I somehow overlooked the PCM requirement. I have an old Dazzle card that theoretically allowd PCM audio capture, but it never worked when I tried it. It was more theoretical than practical. No Hauppauge card that I know of can meet your audio capture requirements.

Like I said in my first post, the video requirements are no problem. However, capturing Dolby or DTS audio from a laserdisc is going to be very difficult to do. Here is an old post on the subject that talks about what you have to do:
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic191027.html
Basically you need a sound card capable of optical in capture. I don't know of any TV card that supports this.

as I mentioned, I'm only interested in PCM 44.1 kHz 2 Channel capture with Composite/S-Video at the same time.

Thanks

Michael

[jagabo]

I think everyone assumed you meant you wanted to capture analog stereo audio as PCM 44.1 KHz. I don't know of any capture cards that have digital inputs for audio (not that I know every capture device out there). You might be able to get a card that captures only video then use your sound card to capture digital audio. Some capture programs will let you specify where the audio comes from. VirtualDub for example has the option to capture from SPDIF (though I've never tried it). You may run into audio sync problems though.

[PartingShot]

Hi, I've successfully achieved capturing laserdisc using composite video and 44.1KHz PCM digital audio over a Toslink (optical) connection.

Not sure about how to obtain the best result for capturing video in MPEG2 format (per the original poster's request), but it is definitely possible to capture analog video (A-to-D converted on the fly) and 44.1KHz digital audio (using correctly sampled "bitperfect" digital capture mode on a suitably equipped soundcard) and to have a capture program interleave both into an AVI file.


MY SETUP:

Video hardware:
PDI Deluxe video capture card (by Pixel Magic Systems)

Audio hardware:
Creative Audigy2 ZS Platinum (must be the Platinum version, which has a 5.25" front bezel interface for a computer case... this interface has toslink/optical and SPDIF/coax digital inputs)

Capture software:
VirtualVCR (freeware)

Capture codec for video:
Huffyuv 2.1.1


Hope this helps!