We agree more than we disagree: in my post I said the industry still sees discs as the ongoing commercial video platform for playback. My point about flash was more concerned with video recording, which has splintered off from playback in unanticipated ways. Video recording habits in North America are currently so at odds with the rest of the world that we're a drag on the overall recorder hardware market, which is spurring the flash initiatives from SanDisk, Toshiba, etc. Any studio releases on flash are not expected to be pre-packaged but sold "on demand" via retail kiosks, this is the crux of current negotiations. Pressed optical media will remain the primary rental/purchase package for commercial studio content for quite awhile yet.Originally Posted by mpack
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Originally Posted by Seeker47Originally Posted by orsetto
I'm curious as to your lineup of "workhorse" Pioneers. Didn't you cite the 53x series as having serious problems, and recommend the 550 as the more-recent model to buy ?
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Originally Posted by Seeker47
The TVGOS is a Gemstar product, like the magazine, and the TV Guide Channel, though Macrovision owns Gemstar now. From what I have read. it does take 24 hours to load the analog version of the guide. There is a small amount of advertising included, in addition to the program guide, which generates some revenue for the station supplying the guide.
The analog version usually originates from a PBS station and is carried in the VBI. Apparently, if the analog signal for that station was used by the cable company, TVGOS worked. [s:da200e3e0c]If a compatible STB was used. a G-link cable could be connected to it, and it would somehow send the signal to a TVGOS-equipped device via the cable.[/s:da200e3e0c] If a compatible STB was used, a G-link cable could be connected to it (to control the STB) and the STB would send the signal to a TVGOS-equipped device via the video connection. The new digital TVGOS will be supplied by a CBS affiliate. [corrected this paragraph]
Other than the DTVPal/TR40-CRA I don't have anything that uses TVGOS. I only started learning about TVGOS because I was trying to figure out if my CECB's program guide would change from the current one, derived from PSIP data, once my local CBS affiliate started broadcasting the digital TVGOS. The guide my CECB has is searchable, though the amount of program data available to search is curently no more that 12 to 18 hours, assuming the station is transmitting any. (The guide is capable of holding up to 7 days worth of data.)
Originally Posted by Seeker47
My recommendation still stands to avoid the 531-533-633 in favor of the sturdier 640 and later models. I have had nothing but headaches refurbishing, repairing, and then repeatedly re-repairing a large assortment of 2005 Pios with their faulty TVGOS system. This particular 531 I'm still using is a special case: its the first second-hand recorder with hard drive I ever owned, and miraculously it has not had its hard drive melt down yet. I had to replace the burner after I burned several hundred discs, otherwise its been surprisingly reliable. I play this sort of perverse game where I keep waiting for it to fail, and it thumbs its nose at me and just keeps chuggin along. Possibly because I long ago disabled the TVGOS and use strictly manual timer settings: the achilles heel with these machines is the nonstop excessive wear and tear the active TVGOS puts on the power supply, fan and hard drive.
Even when they work, these are not the most convenient recorders to use. If you activate the TVGOS, it causes no end of grief with lockups, refusal to obey the remote, missed timer recordings, etc. If you disable the TVGOS like I did, and resort to manual timer recording, you run up against a miniscule, completely deranged manual timer display with the most counterintuitive setting procedure I've ever seen. The capper is the confusing and unpredictable use of manual recording speeds- like all Pioneers you can set bit rates in 10-minute increments, but the TVGOS system in these 531-533-633 units interferes with that and screws it up constantly. Its so annoying that I only use the 531 for things I know in advance should be recorded in the standard SP speed. Moving to a 640 or later Pioneer after a 531 is like a blast of fresh air: much easier to use and far more reliable/predictable operation.
(The TVGOS as engineered in the 2005 Pioneers is astoundingly bad. The implememtation of TVGOS in 2006 Panasonics is far better- a night-and-day difference. If you like the idea of TVGOS, Panasonic is the only good choice- the Toshibas having only marginally better TVGOS than Pioneer. The impending analog shutdown in February 2009 will likely obsolete all of them, however.)
ok, thanks for that.