45 dvds are skipping at the same spot

[ComputerMoron]

Hi eveyrone. I just tried posting a message but it woudl not go though. I am making and selling a performance that I filmed. I uploaded and edited the movie in windows movie maker and I brought it over to DVD Architect Pro 4.5. I burned all of the dvds on my SOny dvd burner at a speed of 4x, as my friend said this was best. Now when I go to test the dvds, they are skipping in the same spots on my 6yr old dvd player. My friend suggested playing them on a Playstation 2, but some of the dvds are skipping there too. Please help me if you can. People have already ordered these dvds and I do not know how to fix this problem. The only thing I can think of that is causing this is that when I brought the movie file over to DVD Architect, it was too big to fit on a dvd, so I clicked on "optimize" and then clicked "Fit to disc." COuld this have had anything to do with my problem?

[ComputerMoron]

I forgot to mention that when I play the dvds on my brother's brand new dvd player, this problem does no occur. What I am worried about is if people have older dvd players, as I do. Please, please respond.

[olyteddy]

well let me ask some questions that may help you clear it up. What brand and type of media are you using? Does DVD Architect produce any errors? How about a 'burn log'? Have you tried other software to burn? Has your Sony DVD burner ever produced a usable disk?

[ComputerMoron]

Oh boy.. I hope i can answer all this... I'm not the greatest at computers (which is why I need help! lol). Ok the dvds I'm using are Memrorex DVD+R (it says on the top recordable 16x, 4.7GB). DVD Architect doesn't produce any errors, it just said that things were being compresses. I don't know what the burn log is... HOw do I find that? I did not try any other software to burn... the only other program I can use to burn it is DVD Shrink I think (or is it decryptor?). My Sony DVD burner is a year old. I have not had problems with it before. THe model is DRX-83OU, if that means anything to you.

[zoobie]

hmm...this sounds like extremely cheap media
and something doesn't sound right
how could you produce this?

[redwudz]

Have you tried playing back the VIDEO_TS folder before you burned it? VLC can do that. If the VIDEO_TS folder plays back properly with no skips or problems, then you would examine your next processes. I would try ImgBurn to do your DVD burning. It's usually more reliable.

But I would definitely try different DVD media. Memorex is sometimes questionable quality. Try Verbatim instead or Taiyo Yuden if it's available. Skips are more commonly caused by the media. If you are using DVD + media, you might want to use booksetting if your burner is capable of it. It should make the discs more likely to play on older players. ImgBurn can also do that.

I would also burn 16X at maybe 12X. 4X is generally just a waste of time and won't get you a better burn, IMO. You can take one of your burned discs and check it with Nero CD-DVD Speed to check the quality of a burn.

The 'optimizing' and 'fit to disc' sound like questionable practices also, basically just re-encoding and further lowering the quality. I would re-encode from the original file and set the bitrate properly to end up with a finished file the proper size to fit a DVD-5. You can use a bitrate calculator for that. They're in our 'Tools' section to the left.

[videopoo]

I agree with Redwudz. If it happens in the same spot I doubt the media would be the issue.

[live4fun]

DVD-R having more compatibility than DVD+R in older DVD Players.
try to burn in DVD-R and see any changes?

[kimco52]

Based on Computermorons comments, as good as redwudz advice is, I would suspect that Computermorons going to scratch his head and say "Huh??"

Anything I sell or give to someone else, I always burn on -R. Then I play it on my old Sony DVD. If it doesn't play correctly, it does not go out the door. I have had some probs with +R but none with -R. That was established some time ago and perhaps +R media is better now but once I got into a mode, I just stay with it until it starts giving me problems.

If it always has a problem at the same point on all dvd's, that indicates a problem with the original file. Examine your video around that point. Try cutting that section out and then burn a disc and see what happens. If it still occurs at the same point in time, perhaps there is something about the encoding process/ adjust to fit method you are using. Rather than do that kind of stuff, I would do exactly as redwudz said: "I would re-encode from the original file and set the bitrate properly to end up with a finished file the proper size to fit a DVD-5". That is always the preferred way to do it.

[GeorgeW]

This could be related to media and/or burning process (as already suggested by others in this thread).

I have a few general questions to figure out your workflow...

What format is the original recording, and how did you transfer/capture to your computer (into what format on your computer)?

You used Movie Maker (when you should have Vegas Pro that bundles DVDA Pro)? OK, what format did you export from MovieMaker to bring it into DVDA Pro?

In DVDA Pro, what are your encoding settings? Perhaps that trouble spot is a bitrate spike or a jopin of two titles in a playlist -- can you give any more info on what that trouble spot is?

Regards,
George

[Nitemare]

Even if the media isn't the problem... Memorex media WILL be a problem sooner or later. I strongly recommend using something else.

[ComputerMoron]

Hello! Thanks for all the help. I uploaded the disc to the computer (with dvd shrink) and watched the main video file with vlc... There was no problem when I watched the problem spots... So on the old dvd player adn on the PS2 it skips in those spots and on the brand new dvd player it works beautiful. So what I'm thinking is maybe it's the memorex dvds and they're defective in certain spots? Or the old dvd player and the ps2 were not meant to read these kinds of dvds?

[redwudz]

So what I'm thinking is maybe it's the memorex dvds and they're defective in certain spots? Or the old dvd player and the ps2 were not meant to read these kinds of dvds?

My guess is a little bit of both.

You might try DVD+ discs and use book-setting. That sometimes works better for older players. But I would definitely try a different brand of DVD disc. Verbatim is fairly available and is generally good quality. Other brands may work well, but it may depend on the burner, the burning program and the brand of media used. It's not a science, unfortunately. Some burners and some burner programs favor some brands of media and some players favor some media brands. You just need to find the best compromise. But better media brands like Verbatim or Tayio Yuden will improve the odds.

[ComputerMoron]

Thank you. What is booksetting? It was mentioned before and I meant ot ask in my previous post, but didn't.

[redwudz]

Sorry, that should have been bitsetting or booktype. It makes the DVD appear as a commercial DVD ROM disc. From our Glossary:

BitSetting, BookType
For a DVD player or drive to identify what kind of disc is loaded, it queries the so called "Book Type Field" found in the lead-in section of each DVD disc. These few bits, commonly referred to as "compatibility bitsettings" tell the drive which low-level format specification does the media conform to, such as DVD-ROM, DVD+R or DVD+RW.
Most DVD players will read a DVD+RW or DVD+R disc without any problems, however a small minority of them report a disc error when a disc is loaded that is not marked as a "DVD-ROM" disc in the compatibility bits. Ususally, these players are physically able to read the disc (since DVD+RW reflectivity is identical to that of a dual layered DVD-Video disc, which all players must be capable of reading), but their compatibility problems are due to different interpretations of these bits in the various firmware versions. In most cases, the problem can be solved by updating the firmware. www.dvdplusrw.org/Article.asp?mid=0&sid=2&aid=42

This only works with DVD + discs and some burners. LG, LiteOn, Optiarc and Samsung drives are listed by ImgBurn as working. ImgBurn is set to do it automatically.