"Video: Stream attributes could not be determined" in Sony Vegas

[bloodshed]

I searched google and other people had the problem but no solution found. The file is an avi file and on Gspot it says the codec is DivX 3 Low-Motion and is installed. But Vegas only imports the audio and video has "Video: Stream attributes could not be determined". I don't want to convert it to another format so what do I do?

[aedipuss]

does it play ok?

[Stiiv]

You need a codec/DirectShow filter for Vegas to import DivX3 LM...if you have ffdshow installed, make sure that "libavcodec" is selected for DivX3. If you don't have ffdshow installed....go get it.

[bloodshed]

i did have ffdshow and divx3 was on libavcodec.

[bloodshed]

does it play ok?

yes perfectly

[lowellriggsiam]

I suspect this is a codec problem. Do a search for fourcc, download it and launch it. Use this program to browse for the file you are attempting to use in Sony Vegas. Once you chosen the file change the codecs in the fields to divx as they won't likely say it then click "ok". Try importing the file into Sony Vegas again and it should resolve your problem.

[bloodshed]

when i opened it in fourcc the description code was div4 and the used codec was div3. i clicked apply and tried vegas and it is still 'stream attributes could not be determined'.

[lowellriggsiam]

Did you type "divx" into the fields?

[bloodshed]

yes didnt work

[guns1inger]

Vegas wasn't designed to work with crap, and when it comes to editing, Divx is crap. It is an end user format.

If you are serious, either frameserve it to Vegas, or convert it to uncompressed first.

[aedipuss]

why do you want to import it to vegas? what is the goal?

[lowellriggsiam]

if the file is still available of the website let me know, I'll download it myself and make a go of it.

[bloodshed]

why do you want to import it to vegas? what is the goal?

to put it in the video

[bloodshed]

ok well i have a bunch of videos i want to use in vegas, and they are ALL avi. so what is the best converter that i can convert them all at the same time, and which i don't have any loss of quality in the conversion?

[guns1inger]

AVI is just a container. The codec determines how it is stored inside. Some codecs are edit friendly and will work fine in Vegas. Others are not so friendly and will cause problems.

For example, DV inside an AVI container is Vegas' bread and butter, and will load and edit without any problems.

As for other formats - it depends. You can use virtualdub's job batching to convert a selection to a lossless codec like lagarith or huffy. They will use a lot more space. If you edit needs are simple - to basically string a few clips together, try AVIDemux.

Bottom line - Vegas simply isn't designed to handle high compression end user formats like Divx, because professionals do use except at the very end of the process. You have the wrong tools for thr wrong video.

[bloodshed]

ok but i want to use vegas, i didnt understand your second paragraph but basically what should i do?

btw lowelriggsiam i sent u a link to the video

[bloodshed]

i tried with virtualdub saving it with divx and ffdshow compression and neither worked in vegas, but the lagarith one did. however it was a 2.91gb file out of a 110mb file.

[bloodshed]

ok there is one avi file that works in vegas, i open it with gspot and compare, in the one that works it says codecIVX and nameivX 4 (OpenDivX) but in one of the ones that doesnt work for example it is codec:div3 and nameivX 3 Low-Motion.

what should i do?

[guns1inger]

You can listen to what you are being told - Vegas is not designed to edit Divx video - and try a different direction, or you can convert all your video to something Vegas will use. Lagartith uses space, but doesn't require you to change the resolution. You other alternative is to convert everything to DV using the Panasonic DV codec and virtualdub, however you will have to resize everything to DV resolutions (720 x 480 NTSC or 720 x 576 PAL).

Basically, what you are asking to do is hammer in a nail with an egg. Everyone keeps telling you it is the wrong tool, but you keep insisting you want to use it. You have three options:

1. Change the nail
2. Change the egg
3. Keep breaking eggs and getting pissed off

So far you insist on using option 3.

[bloodshed]

You can listen to what you are being told - Vegas is not designed to edit Divx video - and try a different direction, or you can convert all your video to something Vegas will use. Lagartith uses space, but doesn't require you to change the resolution. You other alternative is to convert everything to DV using the Panasonic DV codec and virtualdub, however you will have to resize everything to DV resolutions (720 x 480 NTSC or 720 x 576 PAL).

Basically, what you are asking to do is hammer in a nail with an egg. Everyone keeps telling you it is the wrong tool, but you keep insisting you want to use it. You have three options:

1. Change the nail
2. Change the egg
3. Keep breaking eggs and getting pissed off

So far you insist on using option 3.

so far you never told me that before. so far i'm not advanced and i coudln't understand all the talk in the previous posts to learn it. so far i have too many of the avi files to be able to have them all with the huge lagarith compression. so far i had no choice but to keep breaking eggs even though i didnt insist, in fact i asked about conversion to toehr formats but wihtout any quality loss. god ur one pretensious ************.

but im glad ur like this because at least i could teach u about life with that paragraph, i know it opened ur eyes it does that 2 everyone. no need 2 thank me in fact if u want u can completely deny that ur grateful 4 my teaching, i totally understand and will not judge u 4 it.

anyway i have it working now so im done. gb forum and run along i.e. piss off now gunslinger(or keep posting w/e) im off to never return that way i dont have 2 read ur reply or the inevitable pms you will spam me with in desperation 4 me 2 teach u more. i know it hurts 2 b neglected but u must make it on ur own now u will be a big boy one day. but 4 now keep saying 2 urself that i am reading ur reply because that will make u feel better. good boy.

[lowellriggsiam]

Okay, after analyzing the file and trying several different things I have found the primary problem is lying with the audio file inside the avi. If you don't have it download virtualdub, open the file using virtualdub set the video to direct stream copy and audio to full processing mode. Under file choose "save as avi" and rename the file to something you'll remember then click "ok" let virtualdub fix the problem with the audio after which it will import just fine.

[guns1inger]

You can listen to what you are being told - Vegas is not designed to edit Divx video - and try a different direction, or you can convert all your video to something Vegas will use. Lagartith uses space, but doesn't require you to change the resolution. You other alternative is to convert everything to DV using the Panasonic DV codec and virtualdub, however you will have to resize everything to DV resolutions (720 x 480 NTSC or 720 x 576 PAL).

Basically, what you are asking to do is hammer in a nail with an egg. Everyone keeps telling you it is the wrong tool, but you keep insisting you want to use it. You have three options:

1. Change the nail
2. Change the egg
3. Keep breaking eggs and getting pissed off

So far you insist on using option 3.

so far you never told me that before. so far i'm not advanced and i coudln't understand all the talk in the previous posts to learn it. so far i have too many of the avi files to be able to have them all with the huge lagarith compression. so far i had no choice but to keep breaking eggs even though i didnt insist, in fact i asked about conversion to toehr formats but wihtout any quality loss. god ur one pretensious ************.

but im glad ur like this because at least i could teach u about life with that paragraph, i know it opened ur eyes it does that 2 everyone. no need 2 thank me in fact if u want u can completely deny that ur grateful 4 my teaching, i totally understand and will not judge u 4 it.

anyway i have it working now so im done. gb forum and run along i.e. piss off now gunslinger(or keep posting w/e) im off to never return that way i dont have 2 read ur reply or the inevitable pms you will spam me with in desperation 4 me 2 teach u more. i know it hurts 2 b neglected but u must make it on ur own now u will be a big boy one day. but 4 now keep saying 2 urself that i am reading ur reply because that will make u feel better. good boy.

Actually, my first post told you exactly that. Unfortunately, because it wasn't written in an illiterate manner, full of spelling mistakes and gibberish, you probably couldn't understand it. Your participation in the shallow end of the gene-pool won't be missed.

[Stiiv]

LOL guns1inger!

Ever have someone ask you for help, & you tell the person exactly what to do to fix his/her problem...then, he/she doesn't do what you've advised....& wonders why things still aren't working?

Of course, an incoherent rant in "l33t-speak" (if that's not redundant) always makes things better.

[FenrirMushaka]

First of all, allow me to say: You guys are idiots! Where the hell do people get this idea: "[program] is too pro for your crapy file format"? To do something as simple as play the file, it has to be decoded. And editing software has nothing to do with the compresed file.......the data is decompresed prior to the editing. Decoding is handled by the codec. now it is true that sometimes software doesnt seem to comunicate well with some codecs. Even players have trouble with it sometimes(ok... VLC doesn't... but it's still not a complete solution). I don't supose you're gonna tell me "[X video player] is too pro... it ain't meant to work with Div3". Hell.....there are avis virtualDUB won't open for the same crapy reasons...."unsupported [whatever]". Now......after installing K-lite Mega Codec Pack (note the "mega").... I've been able to import the most troublesome files. People should try that. Now, this might not eliminate problems with reencoding.....this is the part where the editor and the codec may indeed have "misunderstandings"

[guns1inger]

Codec packs are not recommended by anyone who knows what they are doing. They cause more problems than they are worth, and can render a system unusable for video. If you want to trash your system, please, go right ahead. But don't recommend that others follow in your reckless footsteps.

[FenrirMushaka]

Well....it works fine for me ... of course then, I might just be one extremly lucky bastard.

[Stiiv]

....who called the rest of us "idiots".

[guns1inger]

Well....it works fine for me ... of course then, I might just be one extremly lucky bastard.

From now on we will call you Forest Gump instead

[djancak]

Now......after installing K-lite Mega Codec Pack (note the "mega").... I've been able to import the most troublesome files. People should try that.

This is the solution that worked for me.
I got the file at www.codecguide.com/download_mega.htm
I am now able to edit the videos that I was having problems with!
Thank you FenrirMushaka!

I was driving myself insane with transcoding the files and even hex-editing some of them!
Now it's time to go back through all the crap I read earlier and point out a few things.

Some codecs are edit friendly and will work fine in Vegas.

No.

Vegas simply isn't designed to handle high compression end user formats like Divx

Wrong.

You guys are idiots! Where the hell do people get this idea: "[program] is too pro for your crapy file format"? To do something as simple as play the file, it has to be decoded. And editing software has nothing to do with the compresed file.......the data is decompresed prior to the editing. Decoding is handled by the codec.

Correct.

You have the wrong tools for thr wrong video.

Wrong.

Vegas is not designed to edit Divx video

Wrong.

Basically, what you are asking to do is hammer in a nail with an egg.

Wrong.

but im glad ur like this because at least i could teach u about life with that paragraph, i know it opened ur eyes it does that 2 everyone.

You have opened my eyes and taught me about life with that paragraph.

Your participation in the shallow end of the gene-pool won't be missed.

Neither will yours.

Codec packs are not recommended by anyone who knows what they are doing. They cause more problems than they are worth, and can render a system unusable for video.

Half-right.

From now on we will call you Forest Gump instead

ha ha ha

Happy flamewar anniversary everyone!

[guns1inger]

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