Samsung SH-S203N SATA DVD Burner stops responding during burns?

[seglertx]

I have had the same problem, of the DVD drive locking up during a burn, with my Intel DG965WH motherboard.

This particular problem seems to be caused by the Intel South Bridge chip, or at least with the Intel drivers for it. On this particular board it is the ICH8, but I have noticed similar problems on computers with the Intel ICH7. The only solution I have found so far is to use the standard Microsoft drivers for the drive controller.

I have had many other problems with this board since I built this computer a year ago.

1. The drives are not always recognized at boot. Many times it will hang with the hard drive light on when trying to recognize the drives after POST. When it finally does recognize them, one of the SATA drives will be missing. This happens whether I am using RAID, AHCI, or IDE for my SATA hard drives. I found that if I shut the computer down and unplug it for at least 15 seconds and then plug it back in and restart it, it will see all of the drives again.
I did read of people having this problem with card readers or USB drives attached. I have an internal card reader installed, but I have not tried disconnecting it yet.

2. My IDE DVD burner will occasionally lock up during a burn if I am doing anything else on the computer. Even something as simple as accessing the internet, transferring files over the LAN, or running a simple program will cause it. Sometimes it will even lock up the computer, and I have to hit the reset button.

3. Even if the DVD burner does not lock up during a burn, it will still bring the onboard ethernet controller almost to a halt. This is ridiculous for a dual core CPU of this speed. When I look at the CPU usage, it is hardly being used at all.

I think most if not all of these problems are caused by the Intel South Bridge chips. I have never experienced these problems with motherboards using AMD CPU's. Even my old AMD Athlon 1GHz T-bird can burn DVD's while surfing the internet and running other programs. I have only noticed these problems on motherboards with Intel chipsets.

When I built this system I initially used the SATA RAID drivers as Intel suggested, and installed the latest BIOS and driver updates. None of them solved the problems. I did not solve it until I recently started to install Linux and found that it did not support RAID on this motherboard.

I decided to switch the BIOS setting for my SATA drives to IDE. Instead of doing a repair of the Windows XP MCE installation, I decided to reformat the drive and do a clean install. (I had installed Nero 7 Ultra which was full of bugs, and still left a ton of registry entries after I uninstalled it. I decided reformatting was easier than cleaning the registry.)

After I reinstalled Windows XP MCE, I was experiencing the same problems, and ran across somebody mentioning problems with the Intel drivers. I switched to the Microsoft "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller", and now I can use the DVD drive with no problems. I can now multi-task just as easily as I can on my AMD systems, and not have to worry about coasters.

I still have the problem of the SATA drives being recognized at boot, and will next try disconnecting the card reader. I am unable to use RAID, but I had not planned on using it. You would think the SATA drive access would be slower, but it is actually faster because I am normally using the DVD drive at the same time. I have that found benchmarks are often misleading, at least compared the way I use a computer.

I like the Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's, but I will never use one on a motherboard with an Intel chipset again.

Is anyone having these problems on Core 2 Duo systems with other South Bridge chips?

Has anyone else had the drive recognition problem at boot, and solved it?

P.S. I use verbatim DVD+R's, and by them at Sam's Club for under $30/100. Out of about 1,000, I have never had a defective one.
I have had 2 defective Maxell DVD+R's out of about 200. One was not completely sealed on the edge, and one split completely apart when removing it from a jewel case.

[budz]

I have south bridge chips on both of my GIGABYTE core2duo motherboards. I have no problems with my SAMSUNG S203B drives. I highly doubt it has anything to do with ICH7/8/9. RAID should always be DISABLED in motherboard BIOS.

This is already documented at CDFREAKS.COM when it comes to using SATA DVD BURNERS.

[jamez243]

Please if you guys can help me. This is the most active fourm I've seen with recent responses so I decided to ask here. I understand the problem this guy is having. While mine is similar it is quite different. I swear to god I've searched many fourms where people mention the problem... but never if it was solved or what they did to remedy the situation. First off I have the SH-S203N Samsung burner as well. Installed it, tried to burn... freezed on 1% Writing lead in. I don't remember what happened but a few days later (maybe after a restart) I tried it again and it worked. I burned one disc and tried it again a few days later (another restart maybe) wouldn't work. My first thought was that it was due to a windows update. Regardless I went to the manufactures website and downloaded the mobo southbridge drivers (suggested as an idea) restarted the computer, dvd burner works, I burn 7 DVDs and I'm happy. Two days later (I think another windows update happened here and a restart) dvd burner making coasters again... 1% Writing lead in (CD's have the same effect... except they get to 4% tho still writing the lead in). So I decide to reinstall the mobo drivers again... hoping that it works again, no dice... and no matter what I try to do it freezes at writing the lead in. If I wait long enough 10-15 mintues nero finally gives up and ejects my disk. Punching it after it freezes does not work either. I'm out of ideas. Here is what Nero rewards me with if I actually wait the 15 mintues without just shutting the comptuer down (cause I'm pissed) or ending the task.

I can read some of this stuff ... but most of it is nonsense to me.


Thanks in advance

James






Windows XP 6.0
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 8.2.8.0
Internal Version: 8, 2, 8, 0

Recorder: <TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203N>Version: SB01 - HA 1 TA 0 - 8.2.8.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default
CD-ROM: <HG3490U KZZ390X >Version: 1.0 - HA 1 TA 1 - 8.2.8.0
Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : HG3490U KZZ390X 1.0 a4h75wv9 Port 7 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203N F: CdRom0
HG3490U KZZ390X D: CdRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2045MB (2095040kB)
Free physical memory: 1177MB (1205996kB)
Memory in use : 42 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

29.1.2008
Burn DVD Image
3:15:15 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450
LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

3:15:15 PM #2 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3502
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

3:15:15 PM #3 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 307
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2263770 (503:03.45, 4421MB)

3:15:15 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 319
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

3:15:15 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2957
Recorder: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203N, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer ID: <RITEKF> <1>
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

3:15:15 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 493
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

3:15:15 PM #7 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 762
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, Joliet)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2263771 (2263771) = #2263771/503:3.46
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2263771 blocks [F: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203N]
--------------------------------------------------------------

3:15:15 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 964
Prepare [F: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203N] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4636203008, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|__ ____NWA_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 2263771 | 2263771 | 0x00
2263771 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

3:15:15 PM #9 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 240
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

3:15:15 PM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4288
Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)

3:15:15 PM #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Caching of files started

3:15:15 PM #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4407
Cache writing successful.

3:15:15 PM #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Caching of files completed

3:15:15 PM #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

3:15:16 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2681
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

3:15:17 PM #16 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3273
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

3:15:17 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3427
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

3:15:17 PM #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10140
---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Transfer Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
Outer Limit of Data Recordable Area: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Revision number of maximum recording speed: 6.0
Revision number of minimum recording speed: -
Revision number table of recording speed: 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 - -
Class: 0, Extended part version: 33
Start PSN of the Extra Border Zone: 0 h
Start PSN of Physical format information blocks in Extra Border Zone: 0 h
Media Specific [16..783]:
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3:15:17 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3565
Reserved Track size: 2263776 (228AE0h, 4421MB) -> return code 0

3:15:17 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 269
Pipe memory size 83836800

3:25:18 PM #21 SPTI -1114 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1114)
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
Sense Code: 0x29
Sense Qual: 0x00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 06 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 29
Buffer x09af0040: Len x10000
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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3:25:18 PM #22 CDR -1114 File Writer.cpp, Line 306
Reset occurred
F: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203N

3:25:48 PM #23 SPTI -600 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x00) WinError(121) NeroError(-600)
CDB Data: 0x55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x00 (KEY_NO_SENSE)
Sense Code: 0x00
Sense Qual: 0x00
Sense Area: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Buffer x04ec9780: Len x3c
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 32 02 C4 08 00 00 00
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0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

3:25:48 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3833
EndDAO: Last written address was -1 (FFFFFFFFh)

3:26:19 PM #25 SPTI -600 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x00) WinError(121) NeroError(-600)
CDB Data: 0x55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x00 (KEY_NO_SENSE)
Sense Code: 0x00
Sense Qual: 0x00
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Buffer x04e88680: Len x3c
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 32 01 C4 08 00 00 00
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3:26:50 PM #26 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Burn process failed at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

3:26:51 PM #27 SPTI -1114 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1114)
CDB Data: 0x1E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
Sense Code: 0x29
Sense Qual: 0x00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 06 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 29

3:26:51 PM #28 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 287
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

3:26:55 PM #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11391
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

3:26:55 PM #30 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL


Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon

[budz]

jamez243: first of all use better dvd media than RITEK which is crappy media to use. Use VERBATIM & TAIYO YUDEN dvd media. Burn with IMGBURN instead of NERO. As far as your SAMSUNG drive goes this thread has a lot of info on how to make your drive work correctly with the chipset that you have. It's not nonsense. I have 2 southbridge chip mobo's w/SAMSUNG S203B drives which work fine. Make sure you have the AHCI disabled in the mobo BIOS and use IDE in BIOS as well.

[jamez243]

That is actually Memorex. Which I wasn't aware made crappier versions of media. Regardless I seriously am doubting the media where as a Verbaitum CD-R also froze at lead in. I looked all the way thru this thread and found nothing that would help my specific problem. I just wanted to see if you guys heard of anything that typically causes a freeze when writing the lead-in. Also, I actually don't have the same Intel motherboard that you all have been speaking of, I have the ECS RS482-M.

[DVDDave]

WTF----I have his drive in three separate machines, and i never changed a setting---the thing is plug and play. to those having a problem, why not try a different SATA drive???

[jamez243]

lol you act like I wanted to get this drive and it have problems... I just want it to work like it's supposed to for crying out loud. I just dont' want to go thru the hassle of sending it back RMA (trying to find my reciept) and all this crap if it can be fixed. I am running Windows Vista 32Bit but I dont' know that it has any contribution in the problem.

[1wheelken]

Well, I've been trying several things and here's where I'm at...

I burned 10 DVDs in a row with my NEC IDE burner, while opening 20 windows of IE, opening/using photoshop, and playing MP3s... Didn't affect that burner at ALL! ALL the dvds played PERFECT! In fact, I can burn a memorex or tdk dvd with that drive as well...

The only way I can get consistent burns with the samsung sata is to limit it to 16X, use verbatim ONLY, and not do a single thing on my computer while it's burning... See, I'm too spoiled from not having to sit back during a burn, therefore I don't want to start now. I switched SATA ports & I set the bios to IDE, but I'm not sure what else to try... Can anyone confirm or not whether the buffer on this drive is affected more b/c it's sharing an SATA controller with 2 hard drives? Just trying to figure out why the IDE burner is not affected while multi-tasking...

Notice the "Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level... " in the ImgBurn log, while surfing the net (barely!)... Seems that the HDs are affecting it but I've tried ports 2,3,& 6 with no difference...

I 19:21:56 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!
I 19:21:56 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 19:21:56 Total Physical Memory: 2,078,328 KB - Available: 1,414,076 KB
I 19:21:56 Initialising SPTI...
I 19:21:56 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 19:21:56 Found 1 DVD±RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 19:22:45 Operation Started!
I 19:22:45 Source File: D:\ISOs\2nd_test_drive_alpinestars_RA_(89.77.89.88 .76)(DA.dflt).ISO
I 19:22:45 Source File Sectors: 2,285,859 (MODE1/2048)
I 19:22:45 Source File Size: 4,681,439,232 bytes
I 19:22:45 Source File Volume Identifier: 2NDTDALP
I 19:22:45 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink
I 19:22:45 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 19:22:45 Destination Device: [2:1:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203N SB01 (G (ATA)
I 19:22:45 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x, 20x)
I 19:22:45 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 19:22:45 Write Mode: DVD
I 19:22:45 Write Type: DAO
I 19:22:45 Write Speed: 16x
I 19:22:45 Link Size: Auto
I 19:22:45 Test Mode: No
I 19:22:45 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 19:22:45 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 19:22:46 Writing LeadIn...
I 19:23:05 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2285858)
W 19:26:26 Waiting for buffers to recover...
W 19:26:29 Waiting for hard disk activity to reach threshold level...
I 19:26:30 Writing Image...
I 19:28:57 Synchronising Cache...
I 19:29:02 Closing Track...
I 19:29:05 Finalising Disc...
I 19:29:22 Image MD5: 8cf3513787066d2638ea0a20c3e8e091
I 19:29:22 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:37
I 19:29:22 Average Write Rate: 12,987 KB/s (9.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,269 KB/s (12.5x)


FOR SALE: Samsung SH-203N burner........$15

[jamez243]

Newest development... when I burn a DVD at first... afterwards I get sound errors. No sound will play without logging off and logging back on. Ironically its just the opposite if I play a song first before burning... the burner locks up at the lead-in. I'm not 100% on this but tested both ways proved to be true. I'll test a few more times to be positive that's the case. Any ideas?

[budz]

1wheelken: I've already mentioned to you when burning dvd media you shouldn't be surfing the net and have any programs running in the background. Stop whining about your burning and problems and use the suggestions constructively or buy IDE dvd burner. BTW it's against forum rules to post anything for sale. It be best to remove that "FOR SALE" thingy. :P Also the drive being attached to same channels as your hd has no bearing as well. I've got 3 SATA hard drives in one pc with one of my SAMSUNG S203B drive and have no problems or bottlenecks.

WTF----I have his drive in three separate machines, and i never changed a setting---the thing is plug and play. to those having a problem, why not try a different SATA drive???

I totally !


jamez243:your motherboard is a AMD socket 939, the SATA ports may not be compatible with SATA DVD burners which could be why your drive doesn't work correctly. Motherboards with the INTEL CHIPSET ICH7/8/9 will work fine with SATA dvd burners. NVIDIA chipset will work as well as long as the latest drivers are used. VIA chipset will not work therefore a SATA PCI CONTROLLER card with the SILICON IMAGE 3112/3114 chipset will work. The understanding is older motherboards that have SATA connections were made to specifically be used by HARD DRIVES. Either use a SATA PCI CONTROLLER CARD or just buy a IDE drive.

All of you who've complained about the SAMSUNG S203N drive do some reading at CDFREAKS.COM on the SAMSUNG S203B & S203N drives. You'll see that depending on what hardware you have will determine whether or not the drives will work correctly for you or not.

I've RMA'd one of my SAMSUNG S203B drives back in November 07 since the buffer was going crazy and the drive would not burn correctly on VERBATIM & TAIYO YUDEN dvd media. In fact the drive would lock up so I RMA'd back to Newegg and got a brand new drive. Simple as that! :P

[seglertx]

I should have been a little clearer in my first post.

I experienced the same problem as 1wheelken using the same motherboard, but a Sony DRU-120C IDE DVD burner. This would suggest that 1wheelken's problem is not specific to using a Samsung SH-S203N, or even using another type of SATA DVD burner.

I had already eliminated the following problems that budz has also mentioned:

1. I stopped using NERO 7 Ultra because of the many bugs in it, and completely cleaned it from the system by reinstalling Window. (I use Roxio Creator 9, Ulead Movie Factory 4, and DVD Shrink for burning DVD's.)
2. I stopped burning DVD's at maximum speed and only use 12x at most. This eliminated burn errors, but did not stop the lock up problem with the DVD burner.
3. I stopped using unreliable brands of DVD's and only use verbatim.
4. In the BIOS setting for my SATA hard drives I have tried RAID, AHCI, and now use the IDE emulation setting.

After all of this, I continued having this same DVD burn lock up problem with the DVD just spinning. The only way I could avoid it was by completely staying off of my Intel DG965WH system during a DVD burn. If I wanted to surf the internet or do anything else, I had to use another computer.

I did not solve the problem with my DG965WH system until I also switched the IDE ATA/ATAPI controller driver from the Intel ICH8 driver to the default Microsoft IDE driver. Since then, I have been able to multi-task without any burn errors or lockups. I can now burn DVD's from one hard drive, while transferring movies to another drive from my DVR, surfing the internet with multiple tabs open, and listening to MP3's. While writing this post, I have been running a batch of 18 movies through VideoReDo to detect commercials, burning DVD's using Ulead Movie Factory 4, checking email, and opening up to three other tabs in my browser.

The problem I had was definitely related to the Intel ICH8 driver, or using the Intel drivers on the DG965WH motherboard. If I can burn a DVD without errors while multitasking on a 7 year old 1GHZ single core computer, any new computer should be able to do it. Don't let anyone tell you it can't be done, because I have been doing it for years.


1wheelken: When you were doing this multitasking while using the NEC DVD burner on the IDE connector, which IDE driver were you using? Was it the Intel ICH8 driver or the Microsoft "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller" driver?

I would not advise using any version of NERO newer than 6. Version 7 simply has to many bugs and causes to many problems with other software. It should be avoided at all costs. I tried all the updates to 7.10.1.0, and finally gave up on it. A simple uninstall will not work because of the many registry entries it leaves behind. I started to clean the registry after uninstalling it until I saw how many entries it had left. It was just easier for me to backup my files, reformat the disk, and reinstall Windows.

jamez243: If you have no sound while playing a DVD in Windows Media Player, but it will play in NERO, then NERO is almost certain to be the cause of the problem. I am running Windows XP, Windows Media Player 11, and was using NERO 7, but it was the cause of this problem on my system. I imagine it was screwing around with the AC3 CoDec or its use by other programs.

[jamez243]

You are correct, using IMG Burn I've had no problems, but I haven't restarted since it was working lol, I'm afraid it might not work after a restart, will post tho if it happens. Thanks!

[1wheelken]

First of all, I don't have time now for a full post but I have to respond to budz...

Why the hell can't you believe or understand that I have been able to burn HUNDREDS of DVDs while surfing the net, printing, etc???? Trust me I have! Part of business calls for burning DVDs for clients and during that time I check their accounts online and also print shipping labels for them, all while listening to music, etc....

What I'm trying to figure out is why the fn' samsung is so picky with other programs running and only likes "perfect" media? That's all... If it's bc it's SATA, then I'll buy a new IDE burner... If it's b/c its samsung, then I'll buy a different brand... It's only 20-30 bucks... BFD Or could it just be that I have the absolute best IDE burner in the world and will never be able to find such a masterpiece again to replace it???????

Get over the inability to multitask! As seglertx mentioned, I also could multitask on my old 1 GHz while burning with no problems! Yes, believe it...

Oh and the for sale post was a joke, I'd rather run it over....

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I have no idea about the drivers but I'll check later...

[DVDDave]

i'll give you $15 bucks for it

[seglertx]

I thought I would mention a shortcut for getting to “Device Manager” in Windows XP to check what drivers you are using.

Instead of going the conventional route:
Start Menu\Control Panel\Performance and Maintenance\System\Hardware\Device Manager

I prefer to use:
Start Menu\(right click) My Computer\Properties\Hardware\Device Manager

It 's a bit quicker, and does not open as many windows.

Once you are in Device Manager, you can locate “IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers” and click on the + to open it. You will see right away what type of driver is being used by the name used to describe the controllers. If you are using the standard Microsoft drivers they will be labeled “Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE controller”. On the Intel DG965WH motherboard you have six SATA connectors, so you will see three controllers. If you are using the Intel drivers you will only see two controllers and I forget the exact name used, but it will include ICH8 and have a number for the controller.


If you want to change from the Intel drivers to the Microsoft ones, you will need to (right click) on the controllers, and then:
Click on “Update Driver”, and choose “No, Not this time” and click “Next”.
Choose “Install from a list or specific location”, and click “Next”.
Choose “Don't search, I will choose the driver to install”, and click “Next”.
On the list select “Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller”, and click “Next”.
Then click “Finish”.

Back in “Device Manager”, you will see that the name of the controller has changed. Now just repeat those steps for the other controller.

(If you still had the SATA connectors set to RAID or AHCI instead of IDE in the BIOS, the controllers would be listed as “SCSI and RAID controllers” in Device Manager.)

[1wheelken]

All the drivers are Microsoft...

Not sure if it matters but it's set up like this:

Primary IDE Channel........................................... ..this one shows UltraDMA 5 for device 0 and 1
Primary IDE Channel
Primary IDE Channel..........................................s hows UltraDMA 2 for device 1
Secondary IDE Channel...........................shows ultraDMA 5 for device 0
Secondary IDE Channel
Secondary IDE Channel
Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller

Thanks seglertx

[budz]

First of all, I don't have time now for a full post but I have to respond to budz...

Why the hell can't you believe or understand that I have been able to burn HUNDREDS of DVDs while surfing the net, printing, etc???? Trust me I have! Part of business calls for burning DVDs for clients and during that time I check their accounts online and also print shipping labels for them, all while listening to music, etc....

What I'm trying to figure out is why the fn' samsung is so picky with other programs running and only likes "perfect" media? That's all... If it's bc it's SATA, then I'll buy a new IDE burner... If it's b/c its samsung, then I'll buy a different brand... It's only 20-30 bucks... BFD Or could it just be that I have the absolute best IDE burner in the world and will never be able to find such a masterpiece again to replace it???????

Get over the inability to multitask! As seglertx mentioned, I also could multitask on my old 1 GHz while burning with no problems! Yes, believe it...

Oh and the for sale post was a joke, I'd rather run it over....

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I have no idea about the drivers but I'll check later...

then buy another ide dvd burner and GET OVER IT! :P

[lordbyron2001]

I have the same burner and it works great. But the problem I am having is that Lightscribe control panel does not recognize the drive. It just shows --No LightScribe Drives Found--. Does anyone know how to fix this or is there a more up-to-date firmware than on the website?

[budz]

I have the same burner and it works great. But the problem I am having is that Lightscribe control panel does not recognize the drive. It just shows --No LightScribe Drives Found--. Does anyone know how to fix this or is there a more up-to-date firmware than on the website?

Download the lightscribe system software from their website.

http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/

[seglertx]

1wheelken: You have eliminated all of the problems that I have run across using my IDE DVD burner on this motherboard.

The individual IDE channels are not important, it is the controllers and the drivers that they are using that matter. The controllers govern the individual channels.

It seems that there may be further problems with either the Samsung SH-S203N DVD burner, or using a SATA DVD burner on this motherboard or similar motherboards. I can't think of anything else to mention at the moment. We will just have to wait for more data from others.

I hope the responses are as rational as you and I are. If you need any more help, or discover any solutions, I will monitor this post for a while. My responses may not be as fast, but I will check it for a few weeks.

[budz]

1wheelken: You have eliminated all of the problems that I have run across using my IDE DVD burner on this motherboard.

It seems that there may be further problems with either the Samsung SH-S203N DVD burner, or using a SATA DVD burner on this motherboard or similar motherboards. I can't think of anything else to mention at the moment. We will just have to wait for more data from others.

I hope the responses are as rational as you and I are. If you need any more help, or discover any solutions, I will monitor this post for a while. My responses may not be as fast, but I will check it for a few weeks.

More data from others? Why don't the both of you just post this thread at the SAMSUNG FORUM at CDFreaks.com because I'm sure CoDeKinG, Zebadee, chef and other members will have the similar replies.
1wheelken just needs to RMA the drive at this point and just buy a IDE one. :P

[DVDDave]

just because i don;t recall it being mentioned before, could there be a problem with the SATA cable?? Could there be a power supply issue???

this thread needs to be locked......

[[_chef_]]

just because i don;t recall it being mentioned before, could there be a problem with the SATA cable?? Could there be a power supply issue???

this thread needs to be locked......

Could be anything.............

But honestly, I see posts from two guys who wont to accept that they have to fix problems themselves or can act more polite and get help with it................

[DVDDave]

]

just because i don;t recall it being mentioned before, could there be a problem with the SATA cable?? Could there be a power supply issue???

this thread needs to be locked......

Could be anything.............

But honestly, I see posts from two guys who wont to accept that they have to fix problems themselves or can act more polite and get help with it................

I agree...again, like I already said, THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE LOCKED!!!!!

[lordbyron2001]

I have the same burner and it works great. But the problem I am having is that Lightscribe control panel does not recognize the drive. It just shows --No LightScribe Drives Found--. Does anyone know how to fix this or is there a more up-to-date firmware than on the website?

Download the lightscribe system software from their website.

http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/

i downloaded the current version last night before this post and it show that there are no lightscribe drives found

[1wheelken]

First of all, I said from the beginning that I appreciate any suggestions/help. Also, I give thanks in every post...

But when someone tells me to stop whinning, well... I guess that's polite??? I said several times that I had no problems multitasking b4, yet that same person insists on ignoring that fact and telling me not to multitask...

I'll admit I did get some progress from his suggestions (ImgBurn, slower speed, better media, bios to IDE) but obviously there's still something wrong b/c of the buffer issue & locking up.... The difference between the affects of multitasking are HUGE between the IDE and the SATA drives and I just don't understand why I should accept that?

I did actually order a new IDE drive but I will keep the samsung b/c of the lightscribe and the fact that I'm dying to figure it out.... I'm really close to returning it, however this one is actually a replacement b/c the 1st one did the same thing and that makes me think it's on my end...

BTW, every similar post I can find doesn't have a resolution....

[Billf2099]

I had a problem with my samsung SATA as well. It would not go into DMA mode and the Nero tool did not do it either.
I tried everything. Then, I removed the packet writing software and my problems disappeared when doing the thing. Literally, it would not write at any speed faster then 1x. Which is crazy. But now it burns like the 18x champ that it is.

Some things to make sure of:
Make sure its the Master on the SATA channel its in. In the case of my motherboard which has both IDE and SATA connectors my 4 SATA connectors are two masters and two slaves. Make this a Master.

You could not burn at high speeds because of buffer issues. That could be a lot of things. But usually its a busy hard drive. Debulk that bad boy and defrag it. YOu also might have programs running in background that like to keep hard drives busy. It could be that your system just can't push the bits fast enough to burn faster. But theres lots of stuff you can do to help that out. Defragging is one big one.

I can surf and burn no problem and I'm running a single core AMD 3800. The only thing I can't really do while burning is do a lot of downloading and decoding. While burning I just hit the pause button on that program for the 4 -5 minutes it takes to burn a DVD.

Good luck, Samsung drives are quiet and have performed well for me in the past. My last two dvd burners were LiteOn's and I was pretty happy with them. But I wanted SATA.

[[_chef_]]

@Billf2099,

SATA has not MASTER nor SLAVE, regardless what some software tells you.

@1wheelken,

you confuse 'Multitasking" with "Multithreading".

[gcam]

hey all,

I see that I am not alone....

My SATA burner is about 2 weeks old, and prior to today I have not had any problems what so ever. I replaced my IDE (S202G), because a dvd blew up inside it and though it would burn it wouldnt read. The 203N's been burning fine until today. I had the same issues come up (as this thread) and really ticked me off (I have orders to fill), It would burn one dvd, then when trying to burn another it would freeze up or throw me an I/O error. I was using Nero 6 (latest) and then upgradd to N7 thinking that was an issue, then tried one burn (good) and the next one failure. I reboot and try again using multiple burns, with no windows open, again first one burned second one failed. I also tried IMGburn, first one worked, second one failed. I even tried dvd fab platinum, and got 2 good burns then a failed burn.

So I thought I would stick the IDE drive back in and see what happens, no go, it failed also for the same reason I/O error, so now I am stuck, like I said I have orders to fill and still need to burn some 30 dvds.

Here's my setup:

MSI K8MM3-V MOBO VIA chipset (firmware current)
AMD Sempron 754 2800 (1.6ghz) < I know too slow, upgrading soon
1.5gb RAM
500gb SATA Maxtor
2x250gb Maxtors

Will try posted help and see what happens

G

[budz]

Here's my setup:

MSI K8MM3-V MOBO VIA chipset (firmware current)
AMD Sempron 754 2800 (1.6ghz) < I know too slow, upgrading soon
1.5gb RAM
500gb SATA Maxtor
2x250gb Maxtors

Will try posted help and see what happens

G

Your problem is that VIA chipset on your motherboard. It doesn't matter if you're using the current firmware/drivers for that VIA chipset. SATA dvd burners will not work correctly with VIA chipset. You'll have to use a PCI SATA CONTROLLER CARD w/the SILICON IMAGE 3112/3114 chipset in order for a SATA dvd burner to work correctly. This has been discussed in this thread before. It's also a well known fact with other forum sites such as CdFreaks.com.