Backing up my PS2 games....

[SE14man]

http://www.psxforum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25983

What if my PS2 rips to like 8 GB. How do i compress it without buggering the whole lot up?

Cheers.

[tinker]

It is DL disk and it can hold theoretically 7.95 GB (-R) or 7.96 GB (+R) so you will need to back it up to DL disk.

[SE14man]

Can playstations read DL discs ok?

[mats.hogberg]

I actually think DL PS2 disks can't be backed up without patching the code.
It has something to do with the read direction of the 2nd layer that's different between PC and PS2.
If there's lots of video files, these can be compressed (and perhaps you can get it all down below the single layer limit), then the disk reassembeled.

/Mats

[SE14man]

Do you think a guide like this:
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1902/129xe...%3Den%26sa%3DN
Would be of any use to me?

[mats.hogberg]

Yes, maybe. I've tried a similar experiment myself some time ago without success - you may be luckier/cleverer than me!

/Mats

[SE14man]

Do you think DVD Shrink would fix the problem?

Or is that for movies mainly?

[mats.hogberg]

DVDShrink is for Video DVD only

/Mats

[SE14man]

If i rip a PS2 DVD with DVD Decrypter normally and it comes out at say, 3 GB.
Would just burning the ISO image and putting iti n the PS2 make it work?
Do i start to get problems when it rips past 4 GB?
Would Magic ISO compress it and make it sitll work do you think?

[mats.hogberg]

My backup proficiency is limited to ISO Read/ISO Write with DVDDecrypter. That should be fine for all single layer PS2 disks.
Magic ISO wont help you. You basically have to take out/replace content if an ISO turns out to be > 4.37 GB (single layer max capacity), like replacing a cool full screen video intro with a single frame still. PS2 video is basically .mpg video, so ReJig can be used to compress it. But like I say, this is pretty advanced stuff, and the disk content has to be reconstructed according to how a PS2 disk is laid out. There's more to it than just putting the right files on the disk - they have to be at certain areas of the disk too, something regular DVD creation apps doesn't allow for.
Of course, you need a PS2 with a mod chip, or use some save game exploit/swap disk trick to at all play backups, but I guess you already knew that.

/Mats

[Xylob the Destroyer]

If i rip a PS2 DVD with DVD Decrypter normally and it comes out at say, 3 GB.
Would just burning the ISO image and putting iti n the PS2 make it work?...

It will only boot up if your PS2 is modded.

[SE14man]

Thank you very much for your help.
I really do appreciate it.
It seems like so much hassle! lol.
I think i'm better off just sticking for discs under 4 GB.
Until they bring out somehting better to compress them properly so they work 100%, would you agree?

Many thanks again!

[mats.hogberg]

Have to agree. Time is money, and compressing DL PS2 games down to single layer takes lots of time (and effort).

/Mats

[SE14man]

Thanks Matt

Appreciate your help mate.

[SE14man]

So if i stick with the way im doing things and let DVD decrypter rip and burn the files that are under 4 GB.
I wont get any play back problemso n the ps2 right?
I dont need to manually rearrange the files in the ISO file or anything right?

Thank you.

[mats.hogberg]

So if i stick with the way im doing things and let DVD decrypter rip and burn the files that are under 4 GB.
I wont get any play back problemso n the ps2 right?

If you have a mod chip, not beyond what "-R" media cause for the PS2. Use only top notch DVD-R media.

I dont need to manually rearrange the files in the ISO file or anything right?

Nope, just ISO Read + ISO Write with DVDDecrypter is all it takes.

/Mats

[lordsmurf]

There are sites and guides dedicated to this topic. I suggest visiting one of those places. This isn't a video game site. I say this not to be mean, but to be helpful. You'll get more help in those other places. Use Google to find them.

[f-zer0]

How to burn and play PS2, and PSX games on your PS2 without a modchip Print E-mail
Written by Spyda
Thursday, 30 December 2004
In this guide, you will learn the very easy method of making copies of your PS2 and normal Playstaion games so that they are playable on the PS2. This guide will provide you with all the information you need to burn PS2 games. {mos_sb_discuss:18}
You will need the following things to burn PS2 games:

* a computer with a cd burner
* a blank cd-r (don't use the re-recordable type a.k.a. cd-rw)
* CDRWIN – The version in this guide is 3.8D
* FireBurner –
* PS2 patcher –
* GameShark 2 for PS2 - the GameShark 2 is available at most stores that sell video games, a few examples would be Best Buy, Circuit City, or Target. You want version 1.0 of the GameShark 2. I have heard that all other versions work, but I have only tested version 1.0. GameShark2 costs about 29.95. Believe me, its worth it!!!
* and a PS2 to play the games.

Burning the PS2

The process of burning ps2 games is easy. It is really only a 3 step process.(read the game, patch the game, and burn the game.)

1) insert game into cd drive.

2) Open up CDRWIN and click on the extract disk/tracks/sectors button.

3) Your settings should be as follows:

* For “extract mode” select disk image/ cue sheet
* For “read options” select “raw”
* For “error recovery” select “abort”
* For “jitter correction” select “auto”
* For “subcode analysis” select “auto”
* Data Speed and Audio Speed should be the same
* For “read retry count” type 0
* For “subcode threshold” type 300
* Make sure you selected the drive that your PS2 game is in

Make sure you typed in the file name (just type the name of the game) and Check the directory that you're putting your file in.

Then just press “start”

If you get an error in the middle of reading the disk that says something like “can't read sections xxxx-xxxxx of disk”, it is becase the disk is scratched and CDRWIN can't read it. Try to clean the disk, if that doesn't work you just have to use a different game (a different copy of the same game)

4) Once CDRWIN is done, click ok and then exit CDRWIN. Open up the PS2 patcher, select the game file you just created and patch it (make sure you select the “RAW” option.

5) Close the PS2 patcher, next open up Fireburner. Click on the visual cue burner button. When you created your .bin file (the game file) in CDRWIN, a .cue file should have automaticly been created. In that case, drag and drop the .cue file into the Fireburner window. If the .cue file was not created, just drag and drop the .bin file into the Fireburner window. After you have done that, right click (click with the right side button on your mouse) on your file in the Fireburner window, and select “Burn/Test burn”.

6) In the options window that appears, select your cdwriter, select your write speed(doesn't really matter), and make sure you select “Track at once (TOA) for the recording method. As for the options on the right side of the options window, make sure only the following are checked: “eject cd” and “close session”.

When you have selected the options, click ok and your PS2 game will burn. That's all you have to do to burn a game.
Burning a Playstion (PSone) game

1) If you want, you can spend 5 minutes using the same method as above to burn your playstation game, but its not necessary. For a playstation game (not PS2) all you need to do is use a program that lets you make an “exact copy” or a “backup disk (CDRWIN)” You don't need any selected options, you just need to start the game on the PS2 the same way you would a PS2 game.
Starting the game on your PS2

1) Now for the fun part (and challenging part the first couple of times) This may sound a little complicated at first, but after you do it 3 or 4 times, it's super easy. First things first, you must remove the front of your game drive on your PS2(not a big deal, it can snap on and off).

2) Now insert your gameshark 2 cd(make sure the gameshark memory card is in one of the 2 slots, doesn't matter which one.)

3) In the gameshark options, choose “start game”, then “without”. Your screen should read “Please insert game disk then press X to continue.”

4) Now this part can be trickey for beginners, so I will provide pictures

-the main purpose of this starting method is to open up the PS2 and swap the gameshark disk with your burned game without the PS2 knowing you did it. DO NOT press the eject button on the PS2!!!

-with the PS2 cd tray cover removed, you will be able to look in and see a while tab inside the PS2. With a credit card (or something like it) gently slide the white tab all the way over to the right, if you did it correctly, this should allow you to manually pull open the PS2 cd tray.

5) Next, take the gameshark disk out of the PS2 and put in your burned game.

6) Gently push the PS2 cd tray fully back into the PS2 (Don't press the eject button).

7) Now you need to slide that white tab all the way back to the left (its origional position). To do this you get a strong papper clip(needs to be a strong one) stick it into the PS2 on the right side of the white tab and push the tab back to the left.

8) If you pushed the tab all the way back to the left and did every thing else right, you are ready to play your game. Just press X on your PS2 controler and watch as your burned game loads. ( It may load slower than an original game, depending on the cd-r you are using, I use Verbatim cd-r's and have no problems.)
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Last Updated ( Monday, 24 January 2005 )

[Super Warrior]

http://www.psxforum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25983

What if my PS2 rips to like 8 GB. How do i compress it without buggering the whole lot up?

Cheers.

Can't compress, you'll NEED to use a DL disc.

As for getting this all to work on a Ps2, i use the internal Hard Drive method with the "fat" PS2 model. Easiest method there is and very convenient to be able to travel and have all your games neatly stored to Hard Drive.

http://www.hdadvance.com/

[handyguy]

PS2 disks aren't copy protected. If your game is DL, you could back it up okay; but only be able to play the first layer.

PS2 games are so old that whatever DL one you have must have been made into 2 disks by now.

Also, your chip would have to support DL backups.

[mats.hogberg]

1) Now for the fun part (and challenging part the first couple of times) This may sound a little complicated at first, but after you do it 3 or 4 times, it's super easy. First things first, you must remove the front of your game drive on your PS2(not a big deal, it can snap on and off).

2) Now insert your gameshark 2 cd(make sure the gameshark memory card is in one of the 2 slots, doesn't matter which one.)

3) In the gameshark options, choose “start game”, then “without”. Your screen should read “Please insert game disk then press X to continue.”

4) Now this part can be trickey for beginners, so I will provide pictures

-the main purpose of this starting method is to open up the PS2 and swap the gameshark disk with your burned game without the PS2 knowing you did it. DO NOT press the eject button on the PS2!!!

-with the PS2 cd tray cover removed, you will be able to look in and see a while tab inside the PS2. With a credit card (or something like it) gently slide the white tab all the way over to the right, if you did it correctly, this should allow you to manually pull open the PS2 cd tray.

5) Next, take the gameshark disk out of the PS2 and put in your burned game.

6) Gently push the PS2 cd tray fully back into the PS2 (Don't press the eject button).

7) Now you need to slide that white tab all the way back to the left (its origional position). To do this you get a strong papper clip(needs to be a strong one) stick it into the PS2 on the right side of the white tab and push the tab back to the left.

8) If you pushed the tab all the way back to the left and did every thing else right, you are ready to play your game. Just press X on your PS2 controler and watch as your burned game loads. ( It may load slower than an original game, depending on the cd-r you are using, I use Verbatim cd-r's and have no problems.)

Who, in their right mind, would go thru this procedure every time you'd want to play your backup? Install a mod chip, and play your backups just like your originals.

/Mats

[f-zer0]

@Matts,Anyone who doesn't know how to install a mod chip or dont wanna spend the extra money,Me personally would just go with a ps2 harddrive and then save the games on there and use HD loader to load them up,so much more easier than all this hassle we are mentioning =\

[mats.hogberg]

just go with a ps2 harddrive and then save the games on there and use HD loader

Sure. If you have a fat PS2. And pay for HD Loader.

/Mats

[rubberman]

what i have done for yrs is use PrimoDVD and do 'disc copy' or use DVD decryptor incase i need it in ISO format to add the discID to go online. i installed a Magic2 chip on my fat ps2 and a Duo3 chip on the slim.