Im looking for a HDD DVD Recorder mainly to record shows. I want the best image quality available. I have decided to either get
PIONEER DVR-810HS or Panasonic HDD DMR-E85H
Both have tivo basic programmed already. Does anybody here own any of these HDD DVD Recorders. What would you recommend?
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Philips 3575. (Circuit City, Walmart)
Pioneer okay.
Panasonic poor choice for image quality.Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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[quote="aim15011"]Im looking for a HDD DVD Recorder mainly to record shows. I want the best image quality available. I have decided to either get
PIONEER DVR-810HS or Panasonic HDD DMR-E85H
Where did you find either of those units for sale? (new) -
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Yea, when I was looking for a unit with HDD a few months ago all I could find was one's at refurb places and used units. I'm not so trusting so I did not chance them. Anyway, good luck with it.
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Originally Posted by simplesmnWhen in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form. -
Both units you are asking about are much older models, the Pioneer for sure dates back to 2003. Both models had teething problems with image quality issues. Your primary interest seems to be the built-in TiVO function- note the Pioneer has genuine TiVO, the Panasonic has the less useful TV Guide On Screen system which is a love-it-or-hate-it thing. If you know and love TiVO, you'll prefer the Pioneer. The Pioneer has a slight edge in picture quality and a slight edge in serviceability. The Panasonic has the advantage of DVD-RAM disc recording and lets you edit out commercials on its hard drive before burning the final DVD.
Its highly unlikely you'd find either unit as "new old stock" but if you do either one would be a good bet, pick the one you like most. If you can only find used/second hand, the Pioneer is a better risk. It is more difficult to repair/replace the Panasonic DVD and HD drives, unless you catch Panasonic on a good day when they are offering a cheap repair special. The Pioneer is slightly more flexible in accepting replacement drives when it breaks, and its hard drive action is somewhat more reliable.
There are no current brand-new models in the USA with any type of TiVO- the product category died from high prices and lack of interest (when new the Pioneer retailed for around $1000). Other than the Pioneer 810 the only other genuine TiVO-enabled DVD recorders were from Toshiba and Humax, also discontinued in 2003. The Toshiba turns up on eBay occasionally, sometimes as new old stock. Refurbished Humax units are easily obtained from the weakKnees website. The Humax is arguably the worst at making DVDs but can be had very cheaply. None of the genuine TiVO dvd recorders allow any sort of editing- you keep the commercials along with the programs you record. -
Originally Posted by jamiemark
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can i edit commercials out through the PC? After burning it onto a DVD?
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Originally Posted by orsetto
And is it like that now for newer models? -
what did you mean by "disassemble" is it protected some way?
I do just about all of my own editing directly on my non-TiVO Pioneer DVD/Hard Drive recorder, so I am not overly familiar with computer editing software. There are many other more expert members contributing advice on that topic: try looking thru the "Editing" and "DVD to AVI etc" forums. -
Originally Posted by orsetto
If we're talking about VR-format (unfinalized material, from various DVDRs), I think I saw something about a piece of software that was supposed to be able to retrieve &/or convert it. This may have been specific to one brand, however. (Lite-On ?) I would have to track down that link. Also, Cyberlink Power Producer made some claims about being able to work with VR stuff, and IsoBuster seems to have just added some features that may be relevant to this, into their 2.3 release, though I haven't had a chance to take a look at it yet. (Of course, there is also unfinalized Video Format material. Sometimes, if I have an hour of free space left over on a DVD I've transferred to from the HDD of one of my Pioneer DVDRs, and I think I might have something that will be subject-related to add there later, I might hold off on finalizing the disc for awhile. Maybe that's a risk, but I do it from time to time.) Having some extra software "insurance" here would obviously be welcome, as would any option for getting recorded material off of the HDD, should the burner or some other component fail.When in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form. -
Originally Posted by orsetto
Are the newer models easier to copy, edit recorded DVDs? -
crap! was i better buying a newer model? Like the Philips 3575 like the dude above suggested?
Are the newer models easier to copy, edit recorded DVDs?
Then again, RAM discs are still not playable in most people's typical DVD player which limits your use of the actual disc from the recorder. Further, no TiVO-enabled recorders with DVD-RAM drives were ever sold. The TiVO feature is phenomenal for heavy-duty show collectors and is worth the minor effort of file conversion for editing. I'm sure over time you will be quite happy with the recorder you chose, since the TiVO scheduling functionality was your highest priority. It takes much less time to do a file conversion in your PC than it does to tediously schedule programs on a non-TiVO recorder. Every choice involves compromise, you seem to have done well with yours, stop worrying and enjoy your new machine .
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