cannot open .sub files in anything but resync

[ecc]

DVDAuthorGUI will not accept an .sub file as a subtitle so I convert it with SubResync to an srt file but I lose all of the Italics. I then have to jot down the times where they come up during conversion and add into the srt file <i/> and [/i] which is very tiresome. What's worse is that I have to go to the DVD and scan to those times because none of the subtitle programs I have that are supposed to be able to open .sub files will open them. I always get some sort of error. I've tried Subtitles Creator which says there was an error reading subtitle number 1. Subtitle Workshop says its a bad file or unsupported. SubMagic says the file doesn't exist.

Is there any other program that allows you to actually view the .sub file so that I can at least go through it with the srt file opened alongside it to know what to italicize? Or is there a program that can convert the .sub file to a format that DVDAuthorGUI will accept and that I can go into to make corrections that preserves the italics?

[jman98]

SUB format usually refers to what you get from a program like SubRip. These are subtitles in something like BMP format, which require the .SUB file to optically scanned to convert the subtitles to a text friendly format like SRT. I don't know of any text friendly formats that know what to do with HTML codes like trying to set italics with and . The problem you have is that to manipulate the subtitles, you need to get them in text friendly format, which destroys the ability to use italics and weird special characters like a music symbol. I don't know of any way around this. I have simply given up on italics on ripped subtitles. By the way, you're getting the errors from Subtitles Creator, et al, because those programs can only read text based files. Unfortunately a few subtitle formats also misleadingly use the .SUB extension and these files can be read since they are text files like SRT is a text file, but what you have is not this format. You have the optical format that true subtitles use. DVD Authoring programs convert text based subs to BMP files.

I don't know of any way to get italics back into your ripped .SUB file because the act of converting them to a text readable format destroys italics and I don't know of any authoring programs that accept HTML codes to put the italics back. Maybe someone else here can help, but I don't know any way around this problem.

[manono]

Doesn't DVDAuthorGUI accept SUP format subtitle files? Isn't this the program that allows you to use the Muxman engine for muxing? If so, Muxman accepts SUP format subs. You have IDX/SUB files, right? It's a simple matter to convert them to SUP using SubToSup or SubtitleCreator (Tools->Manipulate SUP or VobSub->Open Sub (IDX/SUB)->Save Sub (SUP)).

Edit: I just checked my DVDAuthorGUI. It takes SUP files (use the subtitle drop-down box when choosing subs), so convert the IDX/SUB to SUP and you'll have DVD subtitles with the same font, italics, position, etc. (but maybe not colors) as on the original DVD. Unless you downloaded these subs from somewhere, use PGCDemux to demux the assets and you'll get SUP format subtitles right off the bat.

[AlanHK]

DVDAuthorGUI will not accept an .sub file as a subtitle so I convert it

There are several quite different kinds of file that might have .sub ending.
it could be a text file, in MicroDVD format, or a graphic file from SUBRIP.

Anyway, I gather you want to exract a subtitle from a DVD and use it as is.

If so, it will be a bitmap. Your errors are probably due to the apps expecting a text format subtitle.

I think DVDAuthorGUI will accept SUP format subtitles. This is yet another bitmap format.
You can use Rejig to extract the subtitles into SUP files -- use its "IFO mode".
You can edit the SUP to a limited exent in DVDsubedit -- change positions, colour, selectively delete, retime.
(I think DVDsubedit can also extract and save a subtitle from VOBs as a SUP, but I haven't actually tried that.)

[ecc]

Okay, now, which program allows you to change the framerate of the SUP file? SubMagic, Subtitle Workshop, and Subtitle Creator do not see it (and Workshop is the only one I know that can change the framerate).

[manono]

Who said anything about changing framerates? You wanted to mux subs without going through the OCR (to keep the italics and other original features) and we told you how. If you want to change the framerate, do it to the IDX/SUB file. Do it in the Cutter utility that comes included in the VobSub package. Then change to SUP.

[ecc]

Done.

I thought I had to change the framerate after conversion to sup the way I did with .srt converted from .sub's in Subtitle Workshop.

I opened the cutter, modified the framerate and the timings look right.