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    I use downloaded YouTube clips in video presentations and would like to improve the quality as much as possible. This has especially become an issue as I've started doing more advanced editing and the compression artifacts become really noticeable (huge changes in luminance from frame to frame--the big patches of posterized pixels start to look like some kind of abstract animation).

    I'm able to do a lot with badly compressed .jpg images in PhotoShop, using the blur tool while zoomed in, so I'm thinking about animating mattes to roto out the artifacts in my video; but that's going to take too long to be practical.

    Is there any kind of software tool that will do this for me?
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    Yes - Avisynth. There are more than Luma fluctuations. You've got a bunch of macro blocks to contend with as well.


    Here are some scripts. The most important one is MVtools and using MVdegrain2 as a cleaner. Problem is, your PC isn't quite fast enough to do it without it taking a long, long time.


    http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=131389

    Or, try the 30 day deemon Video Enhancer, which does high quality upsizing and supports VirtualDub Plugins. You can use MSU deblocker and various other Vdub filters to clean the video as you upsize.

    http://www.thedeemon.com/VideoEnhancer/
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    Is there any method that requires less 1337 hacking skill?

    hehe - You were one step ahead of me. I'm trying that now.
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    Yeah, see above. Deemon Video enhancer
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    Well, you are talking about 30 or 25 frames per second of video images (NTSC or PAL, respectively)
    and depending on the length of those videos, (as you said) could take a very long time to hand
    pick and apply filtering to them to do whatever you can to reduce overall artifacts and things.

    Bare in mind that the majority of these videos you decide to use are prepared by amatures..
    people that know very little about video and images, etc., but only know how to point a camera
    at themselves or others, and dump it somehow into youtube. And how each individule does
    this is plentytude in variation. Anyway.

    The other alternative would be to learn those Paint program scripting language, (if they support
    them) and move into that new area of art, whereby you have more control over the pixels in
    programmic/logic like aproach.

    There is also another alternative, (already mentioned) AVIsynth. This is a another type of
    scripting (programming) language, built around video and image pixel processing together.
    But that also require a learning curve, and in your case, would also require an advanced
    apptitude or art in this area. This also means you have to have a really good understanding
    of the in's and out's of image processing -- codec; avi container formats; color space formats;
    yuv; rgb; and much more. And simply applying a blur (most anyone can do that) is not enough
    if your goal is to really clean or de-artifact a video, thourghly and completely.

    On the other hand, you might not have to dive so deeply into these scripting languages. I mean,
    AVIsynth scripting, from an expert point of view, that is. You might be able to do a little research
    into the many filter() 's already available, and manage enough pre-processing or de-artifacting
    for your particular purposes.

    The basic building block of utilizing AVIsynth go's something like this..

    ** Open Notepade.exe
    ** type in a few lines of code
    ** save this text file as filename.avs
    ** then, open it inside your video editor and review the video or images

    notepad -> flv_video_cleanup.avs =

    x = "c:\flv_video_cleanup.avs"
    LoadPlugin("C:\plugins\Convolution3D.dll")
    directShowSource( x )

    ConvertToYUY2()
    SeparateFields()
    odd= SelectOdd.Convolution3D(1, 32, 128, 16, 64, 10, 0)
    evn=SelectEven.Convolution3D(1, 32, 128, 16, 64, 10, 0)
    Interleave(evn,odd)
    weave()


    Some notes about the script, above:
    The directShowSource( x ) is for the FLV (flash) video format container. It is about the only
    method I know of that will directly open this type of video inside avisynth.
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    The purpose of SeparateFields() is the separate the frame's: Width x 240 rows (fields) so that
    the filter can make better or proper use of the underlying images. Most filters require this
    function before processing the video's image detail. If left out, the video may have unexpected
    results, in terms of filtered data or quality.
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    The purpose of interleave(evn,odd) is bring the video's together (I think) but that is what
    the Weave() does. People use it, so I included it in the above script.
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    The above script incorporates a CONVOLUTION to the video's image. How much convolving
    you need is up to use. You decide what it can or can't do for your video projects. I was just
    showing an example of using a scripting language as a tool to help process your video's images
    in a more AUTO like manor, without the laborous pains-taking of hand 'ing around.

    About the only thing you have to worry about is know how to determine what color space
    you are in (and will need to be in, for processing, pending on the filter/plugin being used) and
    also, what color space to convert to, should you be required to change it !!

    There are also various guides floating around that show how to clean up a video, more or less,
    depending on the project's needs or requirement, or yours for that matter.

    From there on, you can try the many different types of filter/plugins available in this scripting
    language for AVIsynth:

    --> Filter/Plugin listing: http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/

    -vhelp 4459
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    Not really, no. I've tried everything I could, and it always remains a low-quality VCD-like crappy sort of quality (soft blocks, soft video, etc). There are some good ones, yes, but most is not even close.
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    Video Enhancer helped a lot. Seeing the improvement, it almost bothered me more seeing a fairly good video with problems than seeing a complete crap video. When I consider, though, that these clips are not going to stay at four times the YouTube resolution and won't be displayed on a high-res monitor, I think this may be enough.

    Big downside: over one hour for a five minute video, and no batch processing.
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    Big downside: over one hour for a five minute video, and no batch processing.

    Yup. Unless you have multicore, you'll be hurting. Batch processing is possible via command line, but only for resizing, not filtering.
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  9. Just wondering if someone has compare Video Enhancer with Instant HD and/or Digital Anarchy Resizer
    Just wanted a more neutral comparison than the one from their website..
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    Bottom line, they all look...eh.

    You can't turn a Yugo into a Ferrari
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  11. Originally Posted by vhelp
    notepad -> flv_video_cleanup.avs =

    x = "c:\flv_video_cleanup.avs"
    I need to work on flv currently and i don't understand this

    Shouldn't it be something like this ?:

    DirectShowSource("C:\path\myvideo.flv", fps=25)
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    Originally Posted by Soopafresh
    Yeah, see above. Deemon Video enhancer
    I've not had much need for this sort of thing to date, but I'm trying it on some 320x240 clips right now, and it's doing a quite decent job at the up-resolution. It's at least as good as some fractal methods, if not better.
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    I've tryed Instant HD, Topaz Enhance, Deemon Enhancer.... and i think that Deemon's Enhancer isn't that good, plus the Instant HD is MUCH faster.
    The Advanced version of Instant HD is beter and gives similar(maybe beter) results with Topaz Enhance but they are VERY SLOW.
    For a 6.5 min clip.. with Topaz it took 2 hours and 15 min just to change the resolution x2.
    And its not worth it.
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    Originally Posted by vhelp
    The purpose of SeparateFields() is the separate the frame's: Width x 240 rows (fields) so that
    the filter can make better or proper use of the underlying images. Most filters require this
    function before processing the video's image detail. If left out, the video may have unexpected
    results, in terms of filtered data or quality.
    That's not right in this case. You only need to separate fields if you have fields to separate - i.e. if the video is interlaced. Video on YouTube is progressive.

    Cheers,
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    Borba72, Do not post the same topic on several forums.
    Please do not cross post, once is enough.
    Continue in: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/338753-Artifacts-on-Youtube-video-Can-you-help?p=21...67#post2105767

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    Sorry, mr moderator.
    It's just the problem is getting on my nerves..and nobody seems to know the answer for that.
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