Site in different browsers

[DereX888]

This is comparison of viewing the site's sidebar menu on 2 different browsers:


Of course I dont care about ads not showing in K-Meleon but I hope anything else is rendered properly on a non-microsoft browsers?

[Ai Haibara]

I'm seeing the Sponsors section, right now (using K-Meleon 1.1.2 on this old Win98 system). Are you using the K-Meleon version of the Adblock Plus plugin? It doesn't seem to block me from seeing the Sponsors section... though when I first read this post, it wasn't there on my page, either, until I did a shift-reload.

[JohnnyMalaria]

Did you compare these at significantly different times? One thing I've noticed is that sometimes sponsorship is shown and at other times not. Not sure if this is a quota thing - Baldrick will know.

[Baldrick]

Did you compare these at significantly different times? One thing I've noticed is that sometimes sponsorship is shown and at other times not. Not sure if this is a quota thing - Baldrick will know.

I would guess that the server uses a cached version of the menu randomly...or I have no idea...

[thecoalman]

...or I have no idea...

Any ad blocker would have trouble blocking those ads as there isn't anything to distinguish them from regular links except for maybe the div class which is hardly a reason to filter something. Most rely on blocking known JS ad scripts and those are just normal links.

[DereX888]

My K-Meleon is set in rather usual way I think - adblock, java, popups etc are blocked by default unless i turn on any of it if needed.
The only 'unusual' setting i do set is to fake my K-M to pretend to be IE7 in user agent, and i block referrers on almost all sites.

Sponsorship have never appear in K-M for past 3-4 years (since I switched completely to using K-M only from Firefox when it became bloated pig in versions beyond 1.0).

[thecoalman]

The only thing that would set an adblocker off is the <div> class or the proximity of the viewable text "Sponsor":

 <div class="minus2pixels">Sponsors</div>
		    </div>

<div class="sponsormenulist">
DVD-R Blank Media


BoxWave Accessories


<a href="http://www.magiciso.com" target="_blank">Magic ISO
Maker</a>


DVD Duplicator


CD/DVD Media in Europe


DVD Duplicator


Free Codecs


cdfreaks.com



</div>
</div>

That is a poor filter for blocking ads because if the class is reused on non-ad content it will get blocked as well. Suppose instead it was:

 <div class="minus2pixels">Great Sites</div>
		    </div>

<div class="sponsormenulist">
afterdawn.com


cdfreaks.com


doom9.org


</div>
</div>

Unless its the proximity of the "Sponsor" text to the <div> with the class "sponsormenulist" is setting the filter off that too would be blocked but you're not blocking ads but real content. Just to add, any competent web designer could simply test his ad content against such a overly broad filter. I'd imagine most do from the start. My analogy to such filters has always been its as if someone is offering to cut the ads out of newspaper for you and forgets to mention they may actually wipe out parts of articles in the process. It's neither right for the website serving the content nor is it any good for the person viewing the content.

The only filtering that can truly work is that which blocks ads from known outside sources such as Google ads or others.

[Ai Haibara]

I've got Java/Javascript and popups disabled on the K-Meleon setup (it's on a 64MB Win98 system), and AdBlock Plus - though none of that has an effect on the Sponsors box; it's still there. The only time I noticed it missing was when I read your OP, but it hasn't disappeared since.

I thought that maybe you might have had an Adblock rule set up somewhere along the way to specifically block the Sponsors section or one or more elements of it... but looking at ABP's Blockable Elements of the page, I didn't find anything that would specifically block the section. (At least from glancing through everything.)

I also haven't noticed the section vanishing on any browser on any of my other systems.

[DereX888]

I've got Java/Javascript and popups disabled on the K-Meleon setup (it's on a 64MB Win98 system), and AdBlock Plus - though none of that has an effect on the Sponsors box; it's still there. The only time I noticed it missing was when I read your OP, but it hasn't disappeared since.

I thought that maybe you might have had an Adblock rule set up somewhere along the way to specifically block the Sponsors section or one or more elements of it... but looking at ABP's Blockable Elements of the page, I didn't find anything that would specifically block the section. (At least from glancing through everything.)

I also haven't noticed the section vanishing on any browser on any of my other systems.

no, I really don't have any special adblock rules or anything. And actually until I read the replies here, I thought it is default and correct behaviour of my K-Meleon
It is version 1.1.2 same as yours, just on W2K.
Here's the screencap as of this moment (so you don't think I'm lying - and there is no sponsor's section)

[Ai Haibara]

Oh, I don't think you're lying - I initially didn't see the Sponsors section, either.

Have you tried a shift-reload? (Hold Shift while clicking Reload. That should force the entire page to reload from the server, not the cache. Every once in a while, I'll see pages I commonly visit where elements (or the whole thing!) do not properly load, and it 'sticks' in the cache, that way, so it'll remain even if I click (normal) Reload.)

Also, if that doesn't seem to do anything, you can also try changing the VH style from Default to Blue and the alignment, just to see if that changes anything (and another shift-reload wouldn't hurt).