Figured Out 'RATATOUILLE', menus and all

[MeDiCo_BrUjO]

Actually, the shrinking process is re-encoding.

[musr139]

Yeah yeah, it shrinks fine with the preview disabled, but they've intentionally corrupted the disc.
I'm curious if it can actually be fixed.

Anyone make a DVD5 with re-encoding software and not some Shrink type program?

DoctorM:
I had similar problem with Rat.
Finally figured out the problem: During decrypting using any tool(either Fab, or other sw),
the output contains bunch of Cell commands which are not correct. It also has some bad cells
which are empty video cells. May be if you use FIXVTS they might be cleaned.
As a result if you play the disk that is made from this, it will keep on replaying same clip(s)
sometime, or go to different chapter instead of normal sequence.

Use Remake or PGC Edit or some other method to delete the bad cell commands and junk cells.
Then you should be fine.

[kato51]

I don't quite understand. Don't you just want to make a copy of DVD9 onto DVD5? What does shrink's preview function have to do with anything?

[doctorm]

It's a common misconception that DVD Shrink, Nero Recode, etc. re-encode.
They do not. They only increase existing compression (transcode).

Quality-wise it's not as good as a real re-encoding, especially at high compression percentages.

[manono]

Anyone make a DVD5 with re-encoding software and not some Shrink type program?

Finally figured out the problem: During decrypting using any tool(either Fab, or other sw),
the output contains bunch of Cell commands which are not correct. It also has some bad cells
which are empty video cells. May be if you use FIXVTS they might be cleaned.
As a result if you play the disk that is made from this, it will keep on replaying same clip(s)
sometime, or go to different chapter instead of normal sequence.

Use Remake or PGC Edit or some other method to delete the bad cell commands and junk cells.
Then you should be fine.

musr139 has the answer. I reencoded what I wanted of the DVD in CCE and when done found out-of-synch audio and a replaying of the first sections of the movie and extras (the 2 short cartoons I kept, the history of the rat and the alien abduction one). I had a look at the cells in PGCEdit, removed the empty ones at the beginning of the videos, started over again, and everything went fine the second time around. FixVTS didn't get rid of them.

[doctorm]

Yeah, I tried FixVTS as well, it wasn't thorough enough.

manono: It's an oddity. I noticed when playing around in DVDRemake that the first few chapters are on there twice... for no reason that I can determine except to mess with us.

I'll be taking another dig through this with DVDRemake tomorrow. I don't care about the back up so much now as licking this crazy thing.

[kato51]

I just put the rip from DVDFabDecrypter through DVDRebuilder using the HCEncoder and had no problems (other than hours it takes to reencode the damned thing). Wrote it on a +RW, plays back fine. Everything works, the menus, scenes, extras...

[manono]

I just put the rip from DVDFabDecrypter through DVDRebuilder using the HCEncoder and had no problems...

Yeah, that points to the differences between DVD-RB's cell based encoding and doing complete PGCs manually, replacing them back into the DVD using VobBlanker when all done. DVD-RB's way avoids a lot of the pitfalls that the new and unusual copy protection might have caused for those of us that prefer doing the whole thing ourselves. In my own case I did it my normal way, it didn't work well, had a look at the structure, removed the junk cells, and my second try went well.

[doctorm]

Went through this disc with an ax today (in DVDRemake).
Cut out the trailers, the a/v calibration, DD 2.0 track, etc.
Leaving only the movie, menus and extras.

Loads of garbage cells and funky navigations were trimmed and repaired.
DVD Rebuilder worked fine.
Q value of the main movie is 3 for an OPV encoding!

This was a fun challenge. :O

[dontasciime]

in shrink use frame start/end and set to 4 sec 06 frames with preview on