playing a microsoft avi -uncommressed file

[pantsdavies]

Hey All
when exporting a movie from pemiere pro using the microsoft AVi with none compreesion I cant get media player to play it?

the file size is huge but shouldnt it still play?

I have tried VLC 0.8.6c its better but still sticks and jump
Any other programs out there or can I repair the ones I have?????????

[jagabo]

Your hard drive can't feed the player fast enough to play an uncompressed RGB without jerking.

[pantsdavies]

Your hard drive can't feed the player fast enough to play an uncompressed RGB without jerking.

So is I knackered or can I get around this????????????

nothing to do with codecs etc then????

Cheers
Regards
Lee

[manono]

Since I don't guess that uncompressed AVI is the final format, go ahead and do whatever it is you're going to do with it (encode into something else?). What do you care that it doesn't play smoothly?

[jagabo]

You can get around it by setting up a fast RAID 0 array. Maybe by stepping up to a 10,000 rpm drive. Or maybe by using a lossless compression codec. But why do you need smooth playback of uncompressed RGB? That's not generally a final output form and RGB isn't really a good intermediate format for video unless your source is computer generated (eg, starts out as RGB from a 3D rendering package).

[pantsdavies]

Since I don't guess that uncompressed AVI is the final format, go ahead and do whatever it is you're going to do with it (encode into something else?). What do you care that it doesn't play smoothly?

Fair point, this is how I burn my videos th DVD

I up load this Microsoft AVI uncommpressed file into Encore and then Burn to DVD

Its just when I try and play the AVI it doesn't but I guess your right why would I

Is this a good way of editing, Am I getting the best quality output to DVD ? by converting the movie to this microsoft avi file and then into encore for burning? , I use adobe prodution Suite

[jagabo]

uncompressed (RGB) AVI... Is this a good way of editing, Am I getting the best quality output to DVD ?

Unless your source is RGB you should be using a native video YUV format like YUY2. Otherwise you will be converting YUV sources to RGB, losing precision and (usually) details in very bright and very dark areas.

[pantsdavies]

uncompressed (RGB) AVI... Is this a good way of editing, Am I getting the best quality output to DVD ?

Unless your source is RGB you should be using a native video YUV format like YUY2. Otherwise you will be converting YUV sources to RGB, losing precision and (usually) details in very bright and very dark areas.

original source is minidv how do I tell what it is?????????

[ofbarea]

You can save your file using a DV codec (Panasonic or Mainconcept), Lagarith or Huffyuv.

[edDV]

uncompressed (RGB) AVI... Is this a good way of editing, Am I getting the best quality output to DVD ?

Unless your source is RGB you should be using a native video YUV format like YUY2. Otherwise you will be converting YUV sources to RGB, losing precision and (usually) details in very bright and very dark areas.

original source is minidv how do I tell what it is?????????

Normal Premiere Pro -> Encore process is this for DV source.

1. Premiere Pro set to DV project.

2. Capture DV from the camcorder.

3. Edit in DV format.

4. Encode to DVD MPeg2 within Premiere Pro using "Adobe MPeg Encoder". If desired, you can encode to AC3 audio as well. Import the MPeg2 and audio files into Encore and author a DVD. --- Done

The only reason to set an uncompressed project is if you are in some post house with massive RAID video servers and need to integrate high end uncompressed video into the edit.

The only reason to export DV or uncompressed from Premiere is to use a 3rd party MPeg2 encoder although I do recommend you save a DV format edit master.

PS: You can also real time monitor your DV project back through your camcorder (IEEE-1394 to the camcorder, S-Video to TV Monitor).

[pantsdavies]

Do you mean edit on timeline then export to ---adobe media encorder
These are the settings I have been using,

format---------mpeg2
preset---------Pal DV high quality 7mb vbr 2 pass
Quality -------5
field order----lower
min bitrate----1.5
target bitrate 7
max bitrate 9

estimated file size is--3.43mb/s. .

are these the best option for quality from minidv to dvd????????

what is the Pal progressive high quality????? is it better than the one above.
I have a widescreen tv and my camcorder id widescreen.

Cheers

[edDV]

Do you mean edit on timeline then export to ---adobe media encorder
These are the settings I have been using,

format---------mpeg2
preset---------Pal DV high quality 7mb vbr 2 pass
Quality -------5
field order----lower
min bitrate----1.5
target bitrate 7
max bitrate 9

estimated file size is--3.43mb/s. .

are these the best option for quality from minidv to dvd????????

what is the Pal progressive high quality????? is it better than the one above.
I have a widescreen tv and my camcorder id widescreen.

Cheers

I just realized you are the person from the other thread where all this was explained in detail. Best to continue from there. Over there you said your camcorder was HDV.
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic339907.html

[pantsdavies]

Thanks for the Help I Only bought the HD Camera last week, still trying to get to grips with the minidv before
bogging my brain up with HD.

Thanks anyway

[edDV]

Thanks for the Help I Only bought the HD Camera last week, still trying to get to grips with the minidv before
bogging my brain up with HD.

Thanks anyway

Same issues for DVD MPeg2 encoding bitrate.

[pantsdavies]

Okay Cheers just 1 more thing

what is the Pal progressive high quality setting for?, does this produce better output resilys to dvd

Regards
Lee

[Richard_G]

NO, progressive is for computer playback only, not DVD.

[pantsdavies]

NO, progressive is for computer playback only, not DVD.

Excellent answer thanks very much Rich

[edDV]

Okay Cheers just 1 more thing

what is the Pal progressive high quality setting for?, does this produce better output resilys to dvd

Regards
Lee

It can be used for a DVD but the subject gets very dense. For most the best path is to process an interlace source like DV or 1080i HDV as interlace and let the DVD player sort out progressive conversion if necessary.

1080i has 50 samples of motion per frame. If you deinterlace for DVD, this would drop motion samples to 25 making any motion look stepped or jerky. A good progressive DVD player will convert a 480i, 576i source to 50 Hz progressive and some HDTV sets will upsample that to 100 Hz for refresh. Some newest HDTV sets are even interpolating new intermediate frames for 50 to 100 Hz motion increments.