20 Hours on a single DVD?

[nTekka]

800kbps

[nTekka]

800-2

[nTekka]

Here is the original: Notice BIG quality difference, but still watchable... AND its further proof that says 20 hours on one DVD is 99.9% bootlegged.

[nTekka]

Hope this answers your question and yes you just got played by your cousin!! It is boot legged.

[lordsmurf]

Put that video in motion, and those nasty blocks are going to be moving around like amoeba on screen. It's so full of noise/softness that it's almost hard to see what's in the image.

[Alienverse]

nTekka, thank you for your valuable research. The video quality is somewhat similar to the second set of images you posted (the ones at 800 kbps).

By the ways, what movie was that? The screenshots looked pretty cool.

[Alienverse]

My cousin just sent me an e-mail of some DVD screenshots using the same compression technology as the DVD I described to you all. It seems he took some shots from Star Trek: Enterprise. LOL... this one is probably a bootleg, sorry if I offend anyone with it.

[Alienverse]

Here's an action sequence one...

[lordsmurf]

Still images don't say anything about quality. Motion is required. Stick a full clip on yousendit or wherever. Let us look too.

[dvd pro]

Did you have to turn the disc over Because it could be a DVD-18
See link below.
http://www.learningcenter.sony.us/HomeAudioandVideo/DVDPlayer/Research1/DVDTypesandFormats

[thecoalman]

Took me while because I kept getting a corrupted file and couldn figure out why. Encoder didn't like two-pass encoding on the 434kbps video, why 434? That's as low as Media Studio Pro would allow me to set it. One thing to note before listening is the audio is horrendous on the source, unfortunate as this is some of the best footage I shot of them. It clips during hard bass and snare hits. Everything was encoded in Media Studio Pro which uses Mainconcept for encoding.


For approximately 20 hours on DVD5:

MPEG2
352x240
434kbps VBR single pass
32kbps mono

(10MB) www.nepadigital.com/video/443kbps.mpg

It's MPEG audio as my AC3 plugin has taken a dump, also I'm not sure if mono is compliant. As mentioned I couldn't get two pass encoding to work so it's single pass. This is so bad its comical, take note of the first few seconds, it will appear as if it gets totally corrupted but it was bump to camera. The macroblocking to say the least is terrible.


Candidate number two for 20 hours on a DVD9
MPEG2
352x240
850kbps VBR two pass
32kbps mono

(18MB) www.nepadigital.com/video/850kbps.mpg

This is a world of difference between the first one and isn't that bad. Considering the source is possibly the worse case scenrio for bitrates like this.

The Real Deal
MPEG2
720x480
8000kbps VBR Two Pass

(170MB) www.nepadigital.com/video/8000kbps.mpg

You will not be able to stream this last clip, right click and select "save as". I'll be leaving them up permanently on my server if anyone wants to reference them in the future.

Now the only question is, Do my buddies know how to jam some Ozzy or what? :P

[nTekka]

The screen shots I took was from Lord of the Rings. lol I better encrypt my IP before those damn RIAA come and knockin for those screen captures! I hate them

Anyway, now we all know the answer and the world is back in order until the next big thing.

[Alienverse]

Still images don't say anything about quality. Motion is required. Stick a full clip on yousendit or wherever. Let us look too.

Alright, I'll see what my cousin says, give me another 12 hours at least... by the ways, how would you rip video like that off of DVD in the first place?

And the video quality is generally like the screenshots, there is no macroblocking or anything like that during movement. DVD Pro, it is not a DVD-18, there is only one side on the disc and my cousin told me there is about 7.37 GB worth of content on a single DVD, so we do have confirmation that the disc is at least dual-layer. The Coalman, the video quality of your second clip is very similar to the DVD my cousin brought (although I think his is of a bit higher quality). There's no macroblocking or anything but it is a bit grainy if you know what I mean. It's perfect for my 15.4" laptop monitor, or 19" television set.

Anyways, I'll get a video clip up for you guys hopefully by the end of the day.

[lordsmurf]

http://digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/edit/dvdrecorder/recorderedit.htm

Use the TMPGEnc method to snip a piece of file off, after ripping IFO with DVD Decrypter..

There has to be blocking, and the audio at those low rates (per coalman) is not compliant (but I'd want to double-check the specs).

[Nelson37]

Pretty sure the last time something similar came up it turned out there was something less than the original time estimate on the disk.

You mention a season's worth of episodes. Would that be 20, one-hour episodes? Which, with the commercials cut out, would be 14 hours of video, and not 20?

How was the actual playing time of the video measured?

[thecoalman]

The Coalman, the video quality of your second clip is very similar to the DVD my cousin brought (although I think his is of a bit higher quality). There's no macroblocking or anything but it is a bit grainy if you know what I mean.

As I mentioned that clip is possibly the worst scenario for low bitrates, there is constant drastically changing movement. It's what you could expect during scenes in a action sequence in any movie. You are even going to get very minor macroblocking with that clip using the highest bitrate allowed for DVD, you'd have to have superman vision to see it but it would still be present. If you examine the first clip there are few spots where shots are pretty steady and during that portion you won't see any macroblocking at all.