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  1. Member manolito's Avatar
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    Hi Ygramul,

    even though I am totally ignorant about subtitles, I do know a few things about FFMpeg safe mode. And the bad news is:
    When using FFMpeg safe mode, hard coded subs are not possible by design.

    From the A2D help file:
    Hard Encoded Subtitles
    By checking this option, subtitles will be hard-encoded into the video, using VSFilter AviSynth Plugin. Enabled only if SubRip SRT, Sub Station Alpha SSA/ASS or VobSub IDX/SUB format are used.
    As you can see, hard coded subs are created using an AviSynth plugin. But FFMpeg safe mode completely bypasses AviSynth. This is meant as a last resort when everything else fails (e.g. all DirectShow source filters and even FFMpegSource cannot decode the source). Many times FFMpeg itself can open the source even when other methods fail, and safe mode should only be used in such situations.



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  2. Originally Posted by manolito View Post
    your problems sound like you overinstalled the latest version over an older version.
    Clean install fixed the first problem.

    Originally Posted by manolito View Post
    The other problem with not recognizing the source frame rate seems to be unrelated. A2D uses MediaInfo to detect the frame rate, and your error only pops up if MediaInfo cannot detect it. Do you have MediaInfo also installed separately from A2D? If yes, run it and see if the frame rate gets detected. Or upgrade MediaInfo.dll in the AVStoDVD\Lib folder to the current version 0.7.77 (you have to rename the downloaded DLL).
    It didn't make a difference. Either media info 0.7.77 I even tried the the one from the alpha (I believe it's the same) made a difference. I have mediainfo lite installed and it detects the files as having a framerate mode: variable.

    Originally Posted by manolito View Post
    For me the only occasion when A2D consistently does not detect the frame rate is when my source is an MKV file created by MKVtoolnix always work fine.
    I remuxed and it didn't make a difference. Went back to the alpha and it handles the files well.
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  3. @JukeboxJezabel

    do you have the possibility to upload the variable frame rate file (or a portion of it) anywhere?



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  4. Originally Posted by JuMe View Post
    One suggestion popped into my mind:
    I noticed that AVStoDVD uses Dmix6Stereo-function as a default downmix-method. Could this default downmix-method be user-selectable? Downmix.avsi has also functions for Pro Logic and Pro Logic II –matrixed stereo, and there is even a possibility to choose, whether LFE is included or not.
    However, choosing a suitable downmix-method isn’t really a big problem, because that can be achieved by editing the AviSynth-script.
    Good suggestion. I will think how to integrate that into the GUI.

    Thanks!



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  5. Originally Posted by _MrC_ View Post
    @JukeboxJezabel

    do you have the possibility to upload the variable frame rate file (or a portion of it) anywhere?



    Bye
    The only vbr file I have is the log that your mod generated using the alpha. There is only file that that I don't get the frame rate message for. It is the second in the mkv (media info) file, the first is is a can't read frame rate fie. All the rest of the files I have get affected by the frame rate message. The files in the alpha load slowly. I have lav filters set up in Codecs drop down in a2d. This wouldn't do it would it? I am using the current beta you said that you were using?
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    Alright, just finished one of my infamous R&D sessions, this is what I came up with:

    @JukeboxJezabel

    This is not related to the ff_vbr plugin, it is a regression in AVStoDVD. The ff_vbr log you uploaded has nothing to do with AVStoDVD, it comes from DVDStyler (thanks for using my plugin there...)


    @MrC

    JukeboxJezabel is correct, this is something that happened between the last public alpha "AVStoDVD_283_Alpha150711" and the current stable version (the private alpha versions you sent me are also affected). The issue always comes up when MediaInfo reports VBR, but no bitrate (not even "original_bitrate"). In these cases the last public alpha did detect the frame rate, the stable version does not.

    Any MKV file created with Handbrake using VFR shows this issue. Here is a short sample:
    http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/VURfwwA3/file.html

    As JukeboxJezabel already pointed out, remuxing the file with mkvmerge does not help. What does help is to repack the MKV to MP4 using FFMpeg. The following command takes care of it:
    ffmpeg.exe -y -i "myfile.mkv" -vcodec copy -acodec copy "myfile.mp4"

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  7. Originally Posted by JukeboxJezabel View Post
    I updated to the latest 2.8.3. I am using the ffmpeg vbr mod and problems. I was getting a "cannot create thumbnails" Without it it works fine.
    I updated to 2.83 stable and is it me but with the vbr mod I can't seem to get the menu to build. Thanks in advance. Thanks for the ffmpeg mkv->mp4 command.
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    Sorry, I cannot reproduce the menu creation issue. Tried all kinds of different menues (static thumbnails, animated thumbnails) and a few different source files, no problems.

    I still suspect that ffmpeg_vbr is not installed correctly. After a correct installation your "AVStoDVD\FFMpeg" folder should look exactly like this:

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Name:	ffmpeg.png
Views:	700
Size:	7.1 KB
ID:	33740

    Please note the file sizes:
    ffmpeg.exe is 24 KB, _ffmpeg.exe is much larger.


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  9. manolito sorry man, I think I was not using the most current version. It's fine now.
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    No problem...

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    Just tried the same source a few times, both with AVS 2.8.2 and with a couple versions of CX2D, and am trying to account for certain discrepancies of an unsatisfactory nature. This is from a 3.5 Gb. .Mkv, it is not of foreign origin this time, so not from a PAL frame rate or anything like that. Not surprisingly, the CX2D results look quite inferior. Despite the fact that I had specified DVD-9 in my settings for the job, it came out such that it would only fill 41 % of a DVD-5. (A very familiar issue with CX2D.) I'd never bother burning a disc like that, the job is an instant throwaway. In the reviews section here for CX2D, someone posted a link for a white paper the CX2D folks published that attempts to explain in technical detail why their approach if actually fully justified, and still capable of producing great results. I've only skimmed a part of this justification so far, but I doubt that my assessment is going to change: in a word, BULLSHIT ! There is just no way you can leave all of that empty disc space and have the outcome be good ! One can tinker with their settings all one likes, but the result is not going to approach what you can get from AVS with HCenc.

    However, when I ran the job through AVS, the results looked much better but a totally different problem comes up -- one which I have seen before with some other sources, probably also .MKVs. The dialog came out not well synced . . . which was not the case with the CX2D runs. I see no sync issue there in the source. It plays fine in VLC or MPC_BE. If it makes any difference, I ran the job with AVS set for 2-pass HC, because the run time was 1H: 47M, and I was trying for best results that would fit on a DVD-5. Any ideas on what may lead to this sync problem ?
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    I guess this post applies to your sync problems, too:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/277852-AVStoDVD-Support-Thread?p=2409505&viewfull=1#post2409505

    The Microsoft codecs do not get along well with AVC/AAC sources, you have to force LAVFilters instead.

    The current version 2.83 issues a warning if it detects that Microsoft Codecs are active for such sources, you might want to upgrade...


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    HI all again, I've downloaded the latest release and now my encodes are taking a considerably lot longer , is this anything to
    do with MotionProtectedFPS , thanks for any help.
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  14. Originally Posted by manolito View Post
    JukeboxJezabel is correct, this is something that happened between the last public alpha "AVStoDVD_283_Alpha150711" and the current stable version (the private alpha versions you sent me are also affected). The issue always comes up when MediaInfo reports VBR, but no bitrate (not even "original_bitrate"). In these cases the last public alpha did detect the frame rate, the stable version does not.

    Any MKV file created with Handbrake using VFR shows this issue. Here is a short sample:
    http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/VURfwwA3/file.html
    Thanks for the intensive R&D session and for the sample file

    No frames count, no video time, no framerate flag. A would call it "verbose" mkv !!!

    Have to fall back to the AVSMeter-based backup routine to detect them. In the 2.8.3 final release I have reduced a bit the cases in which the backup routine is invoked, but probably I had trimmed too much



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  15. @Seeker

    after following manolito's advises, using release 2.8.3, if you still have sync issues, post here the project log file.

    @mike252

    post here the log file of the "slow" project from release 2.8.3 and, if you still have it, the log file of the "fast" project from release 2.8.2



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  16. Hotfix to get rid of the VFR reading warning message:

    https://sites.google.com/site/avstodvdmain/AVStoDVD_283_Hotfix_150920.7z

    Unzip and overwrite the original AVStoDVD.exe file



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    Hi MrC,

    damn, I thought that I was pretty quick, but you beat me by 1 hour...

    What I found out is that this is probably not an issue with the file (or with HandBraake which created it), but that MediaInfo is to blame. The last MediaInfo version which detects these files correctly is version 0.7.58. You can get it here:
    https://www.videohelp.com/download/MediaInfo_GUI_0.7.58_Windows_i386_WithoutInstaller.7z

    and overwrite MediaInfo.dll in the AVStoDVD\Lib folder with this older version.

    I will post a bug report in the Doom9 MediaInfo thread, let's see what Zenitram has to say...


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    Originally Posted by manolito View Post
    I guess this post applies to your sync problems, too:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/277852-AVStoDVD-Support-Thread?p=2409505&viewfull=1#post2409505

    The Microsoft codecs do not get along well with AVC/AAC sources, you have to force LAVFilters instead.

    The current version 2.83 issues a warning if it detects that Microsoft Codecs are active for such sources, you might want to upgrade...


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    Thanks Manolito & _MrC_. I went into AVS 'Codecs' in 2.8.2, and changed all settings to LAV Filters. (Not sure if that will carry over, when I install 2.8.3 . . . ? I guess I should probably uninstall 2.8.2 first ?) Looking under Programs in my W7U x64, I see that LAV filters 0.65 was installed, although I don't specifically recall doing it . . . but it says this was on 8/11/15, so it substantially postdates the ffdshow v. 1.3.4500 I also see there. According to posts in this thread, the LAV should now take precedence. Should I go ahead and uninstall the ffdshow then ? I've got DVD-RB, Nero 12 suite, and at least 50 other video apps installed, so I'd hate to be tossing something that some other video program might possibly need ?

    I can re-run that MKV job I mentioned, or do so using 2.8.3, and report back on it.
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    Originally Posted by manolito;2410803

    What I found out is that this is probably not an issue with the file (or with HandBraake which created it), but that [url=https://www.videohelp.com/software/MediaInfo
    MediaInfo[/url] is to blame. The last MediaInfo version which detects these files correctly is version 0.7.58. You can get it here:
    https://www.videohelp.com/download/MediaInfo_GUI_0.7.58_Windows_i386_WithoutInstaller.7z

    and overwrite MediaInfo.dll in the AVStoDVD\Lib folder with this older version.
    This is something we all should do, after installing 2.8.3 ??
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    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post
    This is something we all should do, after installing 2.8.3 ??
    Careful please...

    To handle those problematic VBR MKV files you can either upgrade to MrC's Hotfix, or you can downgrade MediaInfo to version 0.7.58.

    Using the hotfix calls a backup routine to detect the source properties, but this requires to parse the whole source file which can take some time (depends on the duration of the source and the speed of your computer).

    Using the older MediaInfo version is faster, but it could happen that the older version does not recognize some newer source formats.


    So it's up to you, maybe do some tests with files which were problematic for you...


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    @ Seeker47

    Not sure if that will carry over, when I install 2.8.3 . . . ?
    If you do a clean install as recommended, it might carry over, but you should verify it by calling the "Preferred Codecs" setting again.

    If you change all your filter preferences to LAV (recommended), there should be no problems with ffdshow installed in parallel. Only the Haali splitter could cause problems, because Haali has the nasty habit to push itself into the foreground even if a different splitter (e.g. LAV splitter) is installed with a higher merit.


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    Originally Posted by manolito View Post
    @ Seeker47

    Not sure if that will carry over, when I install 2.8.3 . . . ?
    If you do a clean install as recommended, it might carry over, but you should verify it by calling the "Preferred Codecs" setting again.

    If you change all your filter preferences to LAV (recommended), there should be no problems with ffdshow installed in parallel. Only the Haali splitter could cause problems, because Haali has the nasty habit to push itself into the foreground even if a different splitter (e.g. LAV splitter) is installed with a higher merit.


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    Thanks. Haven't gotten to 2.8.3 yet, but I re-ran that job with the installed 2.8.2, after making this change, and there was a drastic improvement on the sound sync. So (maybe) the problem is solved !? Have to look around for Haali splitter now I guess, in case it needs to be removed: it must be there, although I don't recall noticing it under the list of installed Programs.
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    Sorry I only have the latest release.

    START PROCESS
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    <21/09/2015 9:30:32 AM>
    PROJECT SETTINGS

    DVD Video Standard: PAL
    DVD Titles number: 1
    DVD Size: 4450/4450 MB (100%)
    DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
    DVD Label: DVD
    DVD Menu: No Menu
    Output Folder: K:\John
    Delete Temp Assets Files: Yes
    Delete Temp Working Files: Yes
    Edit Command Parameters: No
    Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

    PREFERENCES

    MultiThread: 1
    AVS Video Source Filter: A2DSource
    AVS Audio Source Filter: A2DSource
    AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Spline36Resize/Spline36Resize
    Frame Adjust Strategy: 0
    FPS Hard Conversion: 0
    PAL SpeedUp: 0
    NTSC SlowDown: 0
    Video Resolution: 0
    Video Encoder: 0
    Video BitRate Min: 2500
    Video BitRate Max: 8500
    Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
    AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
    Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
    DVD Audio Format: 0
    DVD Audio BitRate: 192
    Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 1
    Normalize Audio: 0
    Auto Delay Audio: 1
    DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
    DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Font: Tahoma 16pt (255,255,255)
    Chapters Interval: 5
    Use Source Chapters: 1
    DVD Burning Drive: D: SAMSUNG DVDWBD SH-B083L SB01
    DVD Burning Speed: 4x
    Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
    Unload ActiveMovie library: 1
    Adjust DirectShow Filters at runtime: 1
    Save General Settings: 1

    SYSTEM INFO

    Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
    Operating System: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (64 bit)
    Current user is Admin: YES
    Available Output Disc Space: 912 GB
    AviSynth is installed: YES (release 2.6.0)
    LAV Filters is installed: YES (release 0.65.0)
    ffdshow is installed: YES (release 1.3.4533)

    CODECS REPORT

    H.264/AVC: LAV Video Decoder {EE30215D-164F-4A92-A4EB-9D4C13390F9F}
    Xvid: LAV Video Decoder {EE30215D-164F-4A92-A4EB-9D4C13390F9F}
    DivX 4/5/6: LAV Video Decoder {EE30215D-164F-4A92-A4EB-9D4C13390F9F}
    Other MPG4: LAV Video Decoder {EE30215D-164F-4A92-A4EB-9D4C13390F9F}
    DV: LAV Video Decoder {EE30215D-164F-4A92-A4EB-9D4C13390F9F}
    MPEG1: LAV Video Decoder {EE30215D-164F-4A92-A4EB-9D4C13390F9F}
    MPEG2: LAV Video Decoder {EE30215D-164F-4A92-A4EB-9D4C13390F9F}
    MP2: LAV Audio Decoder {E8E73B6B-4CB3-44A4-BE99-4F7BCB96E491}
    MP3: LAV Audio Decoder {E8E73B6B-4CB3-44A4-BE99-4F7BCB96E491}
    AAC: LAV Audio Decoder {E8E73B6B-4CB3-44A4-BE99-4F7BCB96E491}
    AC3: No Preferred Filter set

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    <21/09/2015 9:30:32 AM>
    TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
    Video: K:\Movies\dvd1.mkv
    Info: AVC - 2394 kbps - 1280x580 - DAR 2.207 - 30 fps - Progressive - 2:10:03 hours - 234103 frames
    Audio 1: K:\Movies\dvd1.mkv
    Info: AC3 - 384 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 2:10:03 hours (0 ms delay) - EN
    [MediaInfoLib - v0.7.74]
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    <21/09/2015 9:30:32 AM>
    AVISYNTH SCRIPT
    Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")
    Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\MotionProtectedFPS.avsi")

    Video = A2DVideoSource("K:\Movies\dvd1.mkv", CacheFolder="C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp", FrameRateNum=30, FrameRateDen=1, FrameRate=30)
    # Audio is frameserved by AviSynth just for Preview and Edit purposes.
    Audio = A2DAudioSource("K:\Movies\dvd1.mkv", CacheFolder="C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp")

    Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
    Video = Video.AddBorders(0,70,0,70)
    Video = Video.Spline36Resize(720,576)
    Video = Video.MotionProtectedFPS(25)

    AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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    <21/09/2015 9:30:32 AM>
    DIRECTSHOW AUDIO MIXER OPERATIONS:
    No ffdshow mixer ON/OFF adjustment required at runtime
    ffdshow mixer SETTING changed from '13' to '1' at runtime
    No LAV Filters mixer ON/OFF adjustment required at runtime
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    <21/09/2015 9:30:32 AM>
    START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
    Video Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
    Target Video FileSize: 3982.1 MB
    Encoding Parameters: -ini "C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_dvd1.HCenc.i ni"
    HCenc ini file:
    *INFILE C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_dvd1_1.avs
    *AVSRELOAD
    *OUTFILE K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1.m2v
    *LOGFILE C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_dvd1.HCenc.lo g
    *MAXBITRATE 9000
    *BITRATE 4281
    *PROFILE BEST
    *ASPECT 16:9
    *PROGRESSIVE
    *TFF
    *BIAS 40
    *DC_PREC 9
    *MATRIX MPEG
    *AQ 1
    *LUMGAIN 1
    *SMP
    *PRIORITY IDLE
    *DBPATH C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp
    *WAIT 2
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    <21/09/2015 11:46:19 AM>
    END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
    Video Source Filter: A2DSource (DirectShowSource)
    Created File: K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1.m2v (3984 MB)
    OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4282 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 16:9 - 25 fps - Progressive (TFF) - 2:10:03 hours - 195082 frames
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    <21/09/2015 11:46:19 AM>
    START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    FFmpeg Parameters: -i "K:\Movies\dvd1.mkv" -c:a copy -vn -sn -y "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_1.ToFix.ac3"
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    <21/09/2015 11:46:59 AM>
    START AC3 FIXING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    ac3fix Parameters: "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_1.ToFix.ac3" "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_1.ac3"
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    <21/09/2015 11:48:05 AM>
    END AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    Created File: K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_1.ac3 (357.2 MB)
    OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 384 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 2:10:03 hours (0 ms delay)
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    <21/09/2015 11:48:05 AM>
    DVD CHAPTERS CREATION OPERATIONS
    Title 1 Input Chapters List: 7500 15000 22500 30000 37500 45000 52500 60000 67500 75000 82500 90000 97500 105000 112500 120000 127500 135000 142500 150000 157500 165000 172500 180000 187500 195000
    Title 1 Output Chapters List: 7500 15000 22500 30000 37500 45000 52500 60000 67500 75000 82500 90000 97500 105000 112500 120000 127500 135000 142500 150000 157500 165000 172500 180000 187500
    Created File: K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_Chapters.txt (188 Byte)
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    <21/09/2015 11:48:05 AM>
    DIRECTSHOW AUDIO MIXER OPERATIONS:
    ffdshow mixer SETTING restored to '13'
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    <21/09/2015 11:48:05 AM>
    START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
    BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_BatchMux.ini "
    BatchMux ini file:
    -d "K:\John\DVD\VIDEO_TS"
    -mxp "C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_MuxMan.m xp"
    -l "C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_MuxMan.l og"
    -muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
    -prio LOW
    -palette "C:\Users\Mick\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_Palette. txt"
    -v "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1.m2v"
    -vidmode LB
    -a1 "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_1.ac3"
    -a1lang en
    -cellfr "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_Chapters.txt"
    -progfr "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_Chapters.txt"
    -chapfr "K:\Movies\DVD_dvd1_Chapters.txt"

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    <21/09/2015 11:56:03 AM>
    END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
    Created Folder: K:\John\DVD (4432.3 MB)

    CHECK DVD SIZE
    DVD Folder (actual) Size: 4432.3 MB
    vs Assets Size: 4341.2 MB -> OK
    vs Estimated Size: 4450 MB -> 0.4% undersize
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    <21/09/2015 11:56:03 AM>
    AVStoDVD Project ended successfully.
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    <21/09/2015 11:56:03 AM>
    Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.8.3
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    Hi mike252,

    your log looks fine to me, so you are probably right that MotionProtectedFPS slows down your encode.

    But MotionProtectedFPS has been the default method for some time. If you just upgraded from the previous version (without having changed the fps conversion method) then I have no explanation for the slowdown.

    Using MotionProtectedFPS results in smooth movement, but it can also produce ugly artifacts, so it cannot be used for all conversions. It is quite a bit slower than ChangeFPS and ConvertFPS, and it gets especially slow if you use HCenc in 1-pass mode (because the first sample pass involves a lot of seeking).

    I suggest you try another conversion using ChangeFPS and see how much less time this will take. But since you are converting from 30 fps progressive -> 25 fps you may get jerky motion with ChangeFPS.



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    Thanks Manolito for your quick response, do artifacts appear because of the original quality used ?

    p.s. Think I'll live with the longer encoding times.
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    Originally Posted by mike252 View Post
    Thanks Manolito for your quick response, do artifacts appear because of the original quality used ?
    No, I do not think that the quality of the source is too important. Generally the motionprotect algorithm does not work well on anime, natural film is much better. And static credits at the beginning or the end of a movie frequently get warped edges if there is movement in the background.

    If you are curious, study this old thread over at Doom9:
    http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=849510#post849510


    FWIW if MotionProtectedFPS causes too many artifacts and ChangeFPS makes the movie too jerky, there is another method which avoids the artifacts and greatly reduces the jerkiness. The downside is that the result will be interlaced. The difference to ChangeFPS is that ChangeFPS drops whole frames, and this other method only drops fields. This spreads the drops more evenly. Let me know if you are interested to try this method...


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    I was told to come here with my problem that I posted in another thread so here goes.

    I've DL'd everything and installed all the needed programs and tried my first DVD burn only to find out I had it set for PAL instead of NTSC and it would only play the audio on my standalone DVD player with no video. So I made the change to NTSC and burned another DVD and now it will not even recognize the DVD although it will play on my computer. Here is my last text using MediaInfo.

    ANy suggestions, ideas?


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    Format : DVD Video
    Format profile : Menu
    File size : 8.00 KiB
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 1
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Compression mode : Lossy

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
    Format : DVD Video
    Format profile : Menu
    File size : 8.00 KiB
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 1
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Compression mode : Lossy

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP
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    Format profile : Program
    File size : 58.0 KiB
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 100 bps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Compression mode : Lossy

    Audio
    ID : 128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Language : English

    Menu
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    00:00:00.000 : Chapter 1
    00:04:59.666 : Chapter 2
    00:09:59.666 : Chapter 3
    00:14:59.366 : Chapter 4
    00:19:59.066 : Chapter 5
    00:24:58.766 : Chapter 6
    00:29:58.466 : Chapter 7
    00:34:58.166 : Chapter 8
    00:39:57.866 : Chapter 9
    00:44:57.566 : Chapter 10
    00:49:57.266 : Chapter 11
    00:54:56.966 : Chapter 12
    00:59:56.666 : Chapter 13
    01:04:56.366 : Chapter 14
    01:09:56.066 : Chapter 15
    01:14:55.766 : Chapter 16
    List (Audio) : 0

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
    Format : DVD Video
    Format profile : Program
    File size : 58.0 KiB
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 100 bps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Compression mode : Lossy

    Audio
    ID : 128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Language : English

    Menu
    Duration : 1h 19mn
    00:00:00.000 : Chapter 1
    00:04:59.666 : Chapter 2
    00:09:59.666 : Chapter 3
    00:14:59.366 : Chapter 4
    00:19:59.066 : Chapter 5
    00:24:58.766 : Chapter 6
    00:29:58.466 : Chapter 7
    00:34:58.166 : Chapter 8
    00:39:57.866 : Chapter 9
    00:44:57.566 : Chapter 10
    00:49:57.266 : Chapter 11
    00:54:56.966 : Chapter 12
    00:59:56.666 : Chapter 13
    01:04:56.366 : Chapter 14
    01:09:56.066 : Chapter 15
    01:14:55.766 : Chapter 16
    List (Audio) : 0

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 1 024 MiB
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 7 807 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Format settings, GOP : N=12
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 7 489 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.723
    Time code of first frame : 00:00:00;00
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Open
    Stream size : 978 MiB (96%)

    Audio
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 25.2 MiB (2%)

    Menu

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 1 024 MiB
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 7 807 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Format settings, GOP : N=12
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 7 489 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.723
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    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Open
    Stream size : 978 MiB (96%)

    Audio
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
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    Format settings, Endianness : Big
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    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
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    Delay relative to video : -176ms
    Stream size : 25.2 MiB (2%)

    Menu

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 1 024 MiB
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 7 807 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Format settings, GOP : N=12
    Duration : 18mn 19s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 7 489 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.723
    Time code of first frame : 00:36:41;02
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Open
    Stream size : 978 MiB (96%)

    Audio
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -506ms
    Stream size : 25.2 MiB (2%)

    Menu

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 1 024 MiB
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 7 807 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Format settings, GOP : N=12
    Duration : 18mn 19s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 7 489 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.723
    Time code of first frame : 00:55:01;08
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Open
    Stream size : 978 MiB (96%)

    Audio
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 18mn 20s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -383ms
    Stream size : 25.2 MiB (2%)

    Menu

    General
    Complete name : E:\\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 331 MiB
    Duration : 5mn 55s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 7 804 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Format settings, GOP : N=12
    Duration : 5mn 55s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 7 489 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.723
    Time code of first frame : 01:13:21;12
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Open
    Stream size : 316 MiB (95%)

    Audio
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 5mn 55s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -277ms
    Stream size : 8.15 MiB (2%)

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    Thanks Manolito, I think I'd rather the artifacts than the jerkiness, all depends on how bad they are.

    How do interlaced dvd's perform on playback ?
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    I think you need the log also.
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    Hi thumb,

    Your log looks fine to except for one thing:
    You have LAVFilters installed, but Windows is not using them. This can cause all kinds of trouble (even though it sounds very strange if the resulting DVD plays on the computer, but not on the standalone player).

    You should really fix the DirectShow filter settings to use LAV for all available formats. Have a look here:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/277852-AVStoDVD-Support-Thread?p=2409505&viewfull=1#post2409505

    After these changes please make a new NTSC conversion (your log is from the PAL conversion) and report back. If your standalone refuses to recognize this DVD also, do you have access to another standalone?


    Good luck
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