AVStoDVD Support Thread

[_MrC_]

@dave

the workaround you have proposed should work properly.

Another option is to alter the source title properties ('Title'/'Edit Source Title Info'/'Video Framerate') to change from 29.97 to 23.976, then edit the script and add the tfm().tdecimate() commands. With that approach you do not need to edit the default HCenc ini file, since the *pulldown line will be automatically added. Moreover all other features depending on frames (chapters, subs, preview, ...) will be handled properly.



Bye

P.S. Do you have the possibility to upload a portion of the problematic m2v file?

[davexnet]

Yes of course. This clip was created with Tmpgenc 2.5, DVD NTSC Film template (23.976 with pulldown).
I'm enclosing the elementary and system streams.

In addition,. here is a short clip of the avi file, with the bogus frame rate (as we mentioned above).
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/rp5ejaza5skwrs5/bad_frame_rate.avi

[manolito]

@ davexnet

Your attached file does not contain any audio elementary stream, so no way to test the muxing.


Cheers
manolito

[davexnet]

@ davexnet

Your attached file does not contain any audio elementary stream, so no way to test the muxing.


Cheers
manolito

HI Manolito -
audio not required to test the problem. The issue was with the detected frame rate (affecting size estimate)
when the elementary stream was added to the project.

The elementary stream already had pulldown applied; A2d recognized it as compatible and didn't attempt to re-encode, then
gave an error with a size warning.

[manolito]

Sorry, I probably did not understand what you were trying to do...

Did you just want to reauthor already compliant video and audio streams, or did you want to reencode one or both of the streams?

Your source streams were both DVD compliant, so using the default settings AVStoDVD would keep these elementary streams without trying to reencode them. The size discrepancy would not matter in this case, A2D would just invoke ffmpeg for muxing or MuxMan for muxing/authoring (depending on your output setting). It also would not matter if the m2v video stream was 23.976 with pulldown flags or if it was 29.97. The muxing/authoring would just take the video stream as it is without changing anything.

So to replicate your issue that A2D throws a size error it would be nice to also have the audio stream.


Cheers
manolito

[davexnet]

OK - here's a test with audio. Notice the video+audio is 12MB, but when added to the project, it says 15MB in the lower right corner.

In this case it works fine. But when V+A are close to the DVD size limit, the calculation by A2d is now over the limit and gives an error.

[manolito]

Alright, I see what you mean now...

If I load the muxed MPG file into AVStoDVD, it does show the correct time in the status line. But if I load the elementary streams separately, A2D calculates the wrong time, because it does not take the pulldown into account.

But to me this looks like a cosmetic thing. If I just ignore the size difference, A2D authors these elementary streams without any problem.


Cheers
manolito

[Szabo2]

SS: Is it possible to 'shift' the color channels or luma a little bit in order to counter-effect a convergence/chromatic aberration problem?

LS: I have a 4:3 29" CRT TV (in a remote camp house, not worthy upgrading), and the overall quality of the image is very good; I have a DVD player attached to it, but I'm having a problem, there's a little bit of color fringing (noticeable on pure yellow shapes, which have a cyan border on their right); it looks like a convergence problem of the CRT tube, but it surely isn't, because it only happens on images from the component input, the s-video have no problem although the definition is noticeably worse, and there's a little bit of dot crawling or something like that (horizontally blurred colors).

After some testing, I figured out the problem is the component input of the TV, and it's not worthy fixing it, since I just use it to play some DVDs sporadically. However, I would like to somehow counter-effect that issue in AVSTODVD (obviously with some custom Avisynth command), because I rip my Blu-rays into DVDs (bitrate >7000) and the definition is fantastic considering the outdated technology. It's much much better than the actual DVDs of the movies. The only problem is the color fringing and I'd like to alleviate that a little bit.

I'm going to make bunch of tests with images in order to determine what kind of counter-effect is needed to neutralize the aberration, but only if it's possible to somehow shift one color channel a pixel or two or perhaps one of the component signals, because I think it's likely that the problem is that the Y, Pb and Pr channels are not 'aligned' (since the problem definitely is the component input).

PS: Besides the S-Video, the TV menu has crisp image, including white/colored text on dark background. All the individual component cables have the same length and quality. The TV has no hdmi/etc input, the best one is component.

Thank you.

[manolito]

Hi Szabo2,

you can find all kinds of AviSynth chroma correction filters here:
http://avisynth.nl/index.php/External_filters#Chroma_correction

After you found a working filter and the correct settings, you can easily add this filter to the AVStoDVD AVS script. To experiment with filter settings you can use AVSPMod...



Cheers
manolito

[_MrC_]

@Szabo2

you can also play with the 'Tweak' command already present within AVStoDVD: 'Edit Title'/'AviSynth'/'Colors'. Not so powerful, but effective. Just try and error with that command and the Preview section.



Bye

[Szabo2]

Thank you guys.

@manolito: Can I use LoadPlugin() and paste functions in the Avisynth script in AVSTODVD window? Where should I put the plugin files? It's a little bit annoying though that the text gets red when you're editing it manually...

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@_MrC_: Yeah, I've played with the "wizards" a lot, especially because I make every DVD specifically for that TV, so I output to 4:3 and I play with the sharpness settings (I could never find decent MSharpness parameters though, but since the cartoons are not for me :P I don't care that much about not having the bestest quality possible). I also crop every movie differently, and in some cases, like animations, I also stretch it a little bit vertically sometimes in order to use most of the screen. I must say that, the settings to crop/stretch the images are very good, specially because AVSTODVD calculates the borders automatically and allows you to have a fine control of the vertical stretch so you don't lose proportion too much. It's a damn fine piece of software, it would be nice to have a proper GUI with preview for the cropping/stretching thing, but that's very minor since I already know what numbers approximately I'm going to use.

The DVDs ripped from Blu-rays are *much* better than the actual DVDs. I don't know why the quality of the DVDs you buy (nowadays in the HD era) are so bad, it doesn't make any sense to me, because the bit-rate is high and obviously they know what they're doing. When you use a fine-tuned DVD in that TV, obviously you can't compare to a quality full-HD tv, but it surely gets closer to those cheapo 'non-full-hd' TVs, and that's simply fantastic considering the dated technology. The only real problem, besides the subtle fringing, is the proportion. The definition is totally acceptable imho. And also, the CRT is different than LCD, I don't know what exactly is different, but the image is very pleasant to the eyes, the colors seems more intense and warmer, it's noticeable especially on animations, it has an almost hypnotic effect.

Btw, the chromashift script seems what I need. I don't know how to replicate a 'chroma shift' in an image in order to make lots of variations and test it on the TV... perhaps you guys could recommend me an image editor that has that feature. Otherwise I obviously could go with short videos instead.

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Thank you guys. I appreciate your help .

EDIT: After seeing some images of chroma bleeding on the internet, I'm almost sure the problem is in fact the chroma which is a little bit displaced to the left, I'd say a single pixel; I just don't know if both U and V are displaced or only one of them, but in any case, ChromaShift seems to be able to deal with that . Can't wait to try it.

[JohnnyBob]

I'm not using AVStoDVD actively at present, so may wait for the next stable release. But these questions come to mind re 2.8.1 alpha...

Does it have/include:
- prior 2.8.0 hotfix changes?
- changes in video preferences, such as option to reset to defaults?
- Help updates?

Can it be installed on top of prior version, or should that be uninstalled first?

Thanks.

[_MrC_]

- prior 2.8.0 hotfix changes?

Yes

- changes in video preferences, such as option to reset to defaults?

No

- Help updates?

Yes

Can it be installed on top of prior version, or should that be uninstalled first?

Help/FAQ/General/Q1.7

Bye

MrC

[DJ_ValBec]

Hello there.
One quick question _Mr_

I am learning AviSynth, in special to remove logos:
If I use this Logo Removals: DeLogo Plugin &/or Script, etc. they will work ok with AVStoDVD ?
--> http://avisynth.nl/index.php/External_filters#Logo_Removal

Thx. in advance.

[Yanta]

No, there isn't. Actually for many users this message is quite useful because if they are converting to a file which will mainly get played on a computer it will save a lot of time and quality if they keep the original video standard.

Hi,

thanks for your response. I'll take a look at Click off.

The whole point of using AVStoDVD is to create a [burned] DVD structure (as opposed to a "file"). For playing on a PC, I would just leave the file in it's original MKV container.

Oh well, it is what it is.

[Yanta]

Hi,

I'm starting with a MKV file with named chapters (See example.txt).

After conversion the DVD has no working chapters, though according to example2.txt there are chapters in the DVD (although the names are lost).

sample.jpg shows the file played with Duam Pot Player. No chapters.

Tried changing custom chapters in AVStoDVD but just can't get chapters to work.

What am I doing wrong?

thanks
Tanya

[manolito]

Hi,

thanks for your response. I'll take a look at Click off.

The whole point of using AVStoDVD is to create a [burned] DVD structure (as opposed to a "file"). For playing on a PC, I would just leave the file in it's original MKV container.

Oh well, it is what it is.

Yeah, you're right about playing on a PC. But where I live (Germany) virtually all standalone DVD players do play NTSC DVDs just fine. So it often does make sense to keep the original video standard.

Cheers
manolito

[manolito]

Hi,

I'm starting with a MKV file with named chapters (See example.txt).

After conversion the DVD has no working chapters, though according to example2.txt there are chapters in the DVD (although the names are lost).

sample.jpg shows the file played with Duam Pot Player. No chapters.

Tried changing custom chapters in AVStoDVD but just can't get chapters to work.

What am I doing wrong?

thanks
Tanya

This is strange, because your created DVD obviously does contain chapters. AFAIK the DVD standard does not support named chapters, so this information will be lost.

Did you try to play this DVD on different software players (MPC-HC and VLC) ? And what about hardware players?


Cheers
manolito

[manolito]

@manolito: Can I use LoadPlugin() and paste functions in the Avisynth script in AVSTODVD window? Where should I put the plugin files? It's a little bit annoying though that the text gets red when you're editing it manually...

You can avoid manually loading your plugins by copying them into the "AviSynth\Plugin" folder. All plugins in this folder will be autoloaded when they are called. If your plugin is an AVS script, make sure to change the extension from "avs" to "avsi".

And the red color is there to remind you that from this point on you are on your own...


Cheers
manolito

[Yanta]

Hi,

I'm starting with a MKV file with named chapters (See example.txt).

After conversion the DVD has no working chapters, though according to example2.txt there are chapters in the DVD
Tanya

This is strange, because your created DVD obviously does contain chapters. AFAIK the DVD standard does not support named chapters, so this information will be lost.

Did you try to play this DVD on different software players (MPC-HC and VLC) ? And what about hardware players?

Just installed VLC. I shows there are chapters in the DVD and I can use them.

I tried the "Browse chapter/Bookmark" option in Pot Player and it says there are no chapters/bookmarks.

I hadn't burned the folder to disk, as I didn't want to waste a disk if the DVD had no chapters.

This looks like it is a pot player problem. I will go to their support.

thanks for your assistance.

[JuMe]

@MrC
Thank you once again for the new version! I was very happy to notice that 2.8.1 alpha has a routine to correct the subtitle “framerate”, if PAL SpeedUp/NTSC SlowDown is used. There’s no need to do this with external software anymore!

@manolito
This is probably a stupid question, but does your excellent Wavi_mod-plugin work with 2.8.x-versions? I tried to find the hex string mentioned in the patching-instructions, but couldn’t find it.
By the way, I have used Wavi_mod all the time. Works like charm, never had any problems with it!

JuMe

[manolito]

@manolito
This is probably a stupid question, but does your excellent Wavi_mod-plugin work with 2.8.x-versions? I tried to find the hex string mentioned in the patching-instructions, but couldn’t find it.
By the way, I have used Wavi_mod all the time. Works like charm, never had any problems with it!

JuMe

Hi JuMe, and thanks a lot for using my little plugin...

Yes, the plugin does work for the latest AVStoDVD versions, the hex string to search for has not changed:




I also uploaded the current incarnation of the plugin which contains an already patched version of the latest 2.8.1 Alpha:
http://www33.zippyshare.com/v/tkZdrOtB/file.html


Cheers
manolito

[JukeboxJezabel]

MrC, thanks for such a great product. I recently discovered this wonderful soft and was wondering, since I use the jobs list for overnight processing, is there a way to set Hcenc to always run at high priority? Thanks in advance.

[manolito]

Hi JukeboxJezabel,

AVStoDVD itself does not provide such an option, but some time ago I found out how you can achieve this by using a registry hack.

The user wanted to add the *LOSSLESS option to HC.ini. Have a look at this post:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/277852-AVStoDVD-Support-Thread?p=2343036&viewfull=1#post2343036

You can add the option "*PRIORITY High" (without the quotes) in just the same way.


Good luck
manolito

[JukeboxJezabel]

Thanks for this insight! But I can't seem to find a hc.ini. Would I have to install hc as a stand alone, create an hc.ini and then place it in the Avstodvd hc folder?

[manolito]

AVStoDVD creates the file HC.ini on the fly for every conversion. So of course you can't find it...

The registry patch just intercepts this creation process and inserts the command you want to add. In your case: *PRIORITY High


Cheers
manolito

[davexnet]

What about the the A2D preferences/misc
"encoding priority" - isn't this the same thing. I believe it works for HCenc, at least.

[_MrC_]

What about the the A2D preferences/misc
"encoding priority" - isn't this the same thing. I believe it works for HCenc, at least.

Exactly, that's the purpose.

                                Select Case Preferences.EncodingPriority
                                Case 0
                                    HCenc_ini = HCenc_ini & _
                                            "*PRIORITY IDLE" & vbCrLf
                                Case 1
                                    HCenc_ini = HCenc_ini & _
                                            "*PRIORITY LOW" & vbCrLf
                                Case 2, 3
                                    HCenc_ini = HCenc_ini & _
                                            "*PRIORITY NORMAL" & vbCrLf
                                Case 4, 5
                                    HCenc_ini = HCenc_ini & _
                                            "*PRIORITY HIGH" & vbCrLf
                                End Select

[manolito]

Oh my, I had completely forgotten about this built-in option. Getting old...


Cheers
manolito

[riven]

Great program, I started using it very recently. Just curious if there is a way to keep the current DVD menu (template) that was used, so as to not have to click the Menu Wizard every time upon reopening the program. If not that's alright, it could make things a little faster and not accidentally burn a disc without a menu when making a DVD. Although the dialog box before the project starts does state what menu (or lack of) was used.

I have looked, but there doesn't seem to be a save/keep current DVD Menu option.


Cheers