AVStoDVD Support Thread

[manono]

Audio sync problem when converting to dvd, audio 2-3 seconds ahead at start
tried fixed delay playing dvd folder in vlc, but goes out of sync as played

OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps (CFR) - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 58:06 minutes - 83597 frames
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VIDEO INFO
Time: 58:03 minutes

FrameRate: 24 fps
Frame Count: 83597

There's the problem that accounts for the 3 second difference in length (but not for it being out of synch in the beginning). DGPulldown should be applied for 24->29.97fps, and the delay at the beginning of the audio should be done away with. This is a simple matter to fix on your own without reencoding (ask if you need instructions). I have no idea whether or not AVS2DVD can do it. Maybe there's some sort of a setting where you can set the initial framerate yourself so that it applies the correct pulldown.

[theewizard]

per log DGpulldown was applied,
are you saying do it again to the completed vobs

<3/21/2013 11:45:56 AM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\ST 4-6 Enemy Star Fleet_0_Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet .m2v (2078.2 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps (CFR) - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 58:06 minutes - 83597 frames
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[manono]

per log DGpulldown was applied...

Standard 2:3 or 23.976->29.97fps pulldown, not the pulldown you need.

are you saying do it again to the completed vobs

No, I'm saying do it again with either the MPV or the M2V before it was authored into a DVD. DGPulldown accepts only video as input. I'm assuming those aren't deleted. If they're deleted then you'll have to start over again. _MrC_ will most likely have a solution.

[_MrC_]

@theewizard

something is going wrong during MPEG2 conversion.

Source title info:

<3/21/2013 11:32:53 AM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet - Subtitles (HD).mp4
Info: AVC - 1460 kbps - 1280x720 - DAR 1.778 - 24 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 58:03 minutes - 83597 frames
Audio 1: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet - Subtitles (HD).mp4
Info: AAC LC - 148 kbps - VBR - 2 ch - 44100 Hz - 58:03 minutes (0 ms delay) - Internal
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.61]
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After MPEG2 conversion with QuEnc:

<3/21/2013 11:44:54 AM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Video Source Filter: A2DSource (DirectShowSource)
Created File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\ST 4-6 Enemy Star  Fleet_0_Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet .m2v (2078.2 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 -  23.976 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 58:03 minutes - 83514 frames
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After 2:3 pulldown:

<3/21/2013 11:45:56 AM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\ST 4-6 Enemy  Star Fleet_0_Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet .m2v (2078.2  MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 -  23.976 fps (CFR) - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 58:06 minutes - 83597  frames
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I would suggest to switch from QuEnc to HCenc. If the problem persists, switch from A2DSource to FFMpegSource in 'Preferences'/'AviSynth'. If the problem still persists, then upload the file, or a portion of it, somewhere to test it.



Bye

[theewizard]

i will try again with Henc and ffmpeg

[theewizard]

first try with FFmeg and Henc is a success, the folder played in VLC is in sync

i am now running a 2nd try using TWO titles

thank you _MR_C

I might just change my keep this as my default settings

second run with two titles with same 24fps specs, came out great, everything in sync

[_MrC_]

Thanks for the feedback.

My plan to drop QuEnc and use FFmpeg for mpeg2 CBR encoding is becoming urgent...



Bye

[davexnet]

Thanks for the feedback.

My plan to drop QuEnc and use FFmpeg for mpeg2 CBR encoding is becoming urgent...



Bye

That's a strange thing about QUenc - after all this time of using it ?

Here's an interesting thing. I added an avi, deselected the audio, then on the Avisynth tab
I selected "trim". As you can see from the generated the script, the trim never gets used, and the whole file
is encoded.
Import("F:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("F:\Documents and Settings\Dave Xnet\Desktop\testfile2.avi", CacheFolder="K:\Temp", FrameRate=25, VFR=false)

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,4,0,4)
Video = Video.Spline64Resize(720,576)

Return Video

Trim(0,444)

[Seeker47]

Thanks for the feedback.

My plan to drop QuEnc and use FFmpeg for mpeg2 CBR encoding is becoming urgent...



Bye

Hi _MrC_,


Well . . . I rather like QuEnc, and in fact generally prefer it. (If development has ceased on it though, that could be a problem.) Ideally, I'd like to see it retained -- at least as an option -- even if you decided to "demote" it from being a default. More possible choices is usually a good thing, and having more than one encoder option has been a real strength of your program. (I think DVD-RB has provision for at least 3 or 4 encoders, for example . . . . )

[_MrC_]

@dave

well, that's a bug. Thanks for the report.

@Seeker47

QuEnc is a great piece of software, a customization of FFmpeg designed for mpeg2 video and audio streams encoding. Unfortunately it has not been developed since years, while FFmpeg has continued to be improved. There are some well known bugs with it (i.e. audio multi channels handling and crash with old Pentium 4 with HT enabled).

My idea is to replace QuEnc (AviSynth input) with FFmpeg (AviSynth input) for both video and audio encoding. Therefore the 'QuEnc CBR 1-pass' video profile should become 'FFmpeg CBR 1-pass'. Using some special FFmpeg flags, the video quality in CBR encoding should also improve. You will surely give me feeback about.

As secondary effect, the AVStoDVD package will become lighter.



Bye

[davexnet]

MrC,
I did a little testing with the problem that showed up,
24 fps source > Quenc encoder > 23.976 fps m2v file

I noticed if you used
DirectShowSource("I:\test-24fps-mkv", audio=false)
it worked fine (24 fps m2v)

but if you coded it as
DirectShowSource("I:\test-24fps-mkv", audio=false, fps=24)
It produced a 23.976 m2v file in Quenc

Using
DirectShowSource("I:\test-24fps-mkv", audio=false)
assumefps(24)
also produced a good (24 fps) m2v file.

Why this should be, I've no idea.

[_MrC_]

@dave

thanks for the interesting test.

BTW the issue should not be coming from AviSynth (DSS) because if you use HCenc instead of QuEnc, fps=24 is preserved. I still have to test FFmpeg fed by AviSynth.



Bye

[theewizard]

later tonight i will post the log from the two title project using , FFmpeg with 2 pass Henc

right now i'm on my android tablet

[theewizard]

here is the log from the sucessful two title project using FFmpeg source and Henc encoder

<3/22/2013 7:40:04 PM>
START PROCESS
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<3/22/2013 7:40:04 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 2
DVD Size: 5021/8100 MB (62%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: star trek Phase 2
DVD Menu: Static Menu
Output Folder: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos
Delete Temp Assets Files: Yes
Delete Temp Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

PREFERENCES

MultiThread: 1
AVS Source Filter: FFMpegSource
AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Lanczos4Resize/Lanczos4Resize
Frame Adjust Strategy: 0
PAL SpeedUp: 0
Video Resolution: 1
Video BitRate Min: 4000
Video BitRate Level 1: 4000
Video Profile Level 2: 4000
Video BitRate Max: 6000
Keep DVD Compliant Video: 0
AC3 Audio Encoder: 4
Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
DVD Audio Format: 0
DVD Audio BitRate: 192
Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 0
Normalize Audio: 0
Auto Delay Audio: 1
DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Font: Arial 10pt (255,255,255)
Chapters Interval: 10
Use Source Chapters: 1
DVD Burning Drive: E: PLDS DVD-RW DS8A8SH KL31
DVD Burning Speed: 4x
Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
Save Log file: 1
Unload ActiveMovie library: 0
Adjust ffdshow at runtime: 1
Save General Settings: 1
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<3/22/2013 7:40:04 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet - Subtitles (HD).mp4
Info: AVC - 1460 kbps - 1280x720 - DAR 1.778 - 24 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 58:03 minutes - 83597 frames
Audio 1: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet - Subtitles (HD).mp4
Info: AAC LC - 148 kbps - VBR - 2 ch - 44100 Hz - 58:03 minutes (0 ms delay) - Internal
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.61]
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<3/22/2013 7:40:04 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\ffms2.dll")

# Audio is frameserved by AviSynth just for Preview and Edit purposes.
Audio = FFAudioSource("C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet - Subtitles (HD).mp4", track=-1)
Video = FFVideoSource("C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet - Subtitles (HD).mp4", track=-1, seekmode=0)

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)
#Using DGPulldown/HCenc to upsize FPS

Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<3/22/2013 7:40:16 PM>
TITLE 1 AVISYNTH FRAMESERVING CHECK
Check passed successfully.
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<3/22/2013 7:40:16 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 2491.2 MB
Encoding Parameters: -ini "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet_1.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 6000
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*TFF
*BIAS 60
*DC_PREC 9
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 1
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
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<3/22/2013 8:01:02 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet.m2v (2491 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5999 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 24 fps (CFR) - Progressive (TFF) - 58:03 minutes - 83597 frames
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<3/22/2013 8:01:02 PM>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet.m2v" -srcfps 24.000 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -tff
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<3/22/2013 8:02:02 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet.m2v (2491 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5999 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps (CFR) - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 58:03 minutes - 83512 frames
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<3/22/2013 8:02:02 PM>
START FFMPEG (SAFE MODE) AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
FFmpeg Parameters: -threads 4 -i "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase II - 4x06 - Enemy Starfleet - Subtitles (HD).mp4" -y -vn -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ab 192k "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet_1.ac3"
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<3/22/2013 8:02:25 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
Created File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet_1.ac3 (79.7 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 58:03 minutes (0 ms delay)
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<3/22/2013 8:02:25 PM>
TITLE 2 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase 2 The Child - Episode 4x07 (HD).mp4
Info: AVC - 1375 kbps - 1280x720 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 52:38 minutes - 75737 frames
Audio 1: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase 2 The Child - Episode 4x07 (HD).mp4
Info: AAC LC - 151 kbps - VBR - 2 ch - 44100 Hz - 52:38 minutes (0 ms delay) - Internal
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.61]
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<3/22/2013 8:02:25 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\ffms2.dll")

# Audio is frameserved by AviSynth just for Preview and Edit purposes.
Audio = FFAudioSource("C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase 2 The Child - Episode 4x07 (HD).mp4", track=-1)
Video = FFVideoSource("C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase 2 The Child - Episode 4x07 (HD).mp4", track=-1, seekmode=0)

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)
#Using DGPulldown/HCenc to upsize FPS

Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<3/22/2013 8:02:38 PM>
TITLE 2 AVISYNTH FRAMESERVING CHECK
Check passed successfully.
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<3/22/2013 8:02:38 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 2259.5 MB
Encoding Parameters: -ini "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child_1.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 6000
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*TFF
*PULLDOWN
*BIAS 60
*DC_PREC 9
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 1
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
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<3/22/2013 8:21:48 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child.m2v (2260 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 6001 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps (CFR) - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 52:38 minutes - 75735 frames
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<3/22/2013 8:21:48 PM>
START FFMPEG (SAFE MODE) AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
FFmpeg Parameters: -threads 4 -i "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\Star Trek Phase 2 The Child - Episode 4x07 (HD).mp4" -y -vn -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ab 192k "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child_1.ac3"
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<3/22/2013 8:22:18 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
Created File: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child_1.ac3 (72.3 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 52:38 minutes (0 ms delay)
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<3/22/2013 8:22:18 PM>
START DVD MENU BUILDING OPERATIONS
DVD Menu settings:
Style: 0
Aspect Ratio: 1
Titles Format: 0
Template: Menu in Black
Max Titles Page: 12
Enable Play All: 1
Force Play All: 0
Background Audio: 0
Max Thumbs Row: 5
Thumb Image Source: 0
Thumb Frame Position: 10%
HL Frame Format: 0
HL Selection Color: 5
HL Play Color: 0
Menu Video BitRate: 4000 kbps
Motion Menu Duration: 15 seconds
Thumb Drop Shadow: 2
Play All Shadow: 2
Arrows Shadow: 0
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<3/22/2013 8:22:19 PM>
END DVD MENU BUILDING OPERATIONS
Created File (Menu Page 1): C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_MenuPage1.bmp (1 MB)
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<3/22/2013 8:22:19 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\star trek Phase 2_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-palette "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_Palette.txt"
-v "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet_1.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet_Chapters.txt"
-progfr "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet_Chapters.txt"
-chapfr "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_01_Ep 4-6 Enemy Starfleet_Chapters.txt"
-SEG2v "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child.m2v"
-SEG2vidmode LB
-SEG2a1 "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child_1.ac3"
-SEG2a1lang en
-SEG2cellfr "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child_Chapters.txt"
-SEG2progfr "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child_Chapters.txt"
-SEG2chapfr "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Title_02_Ep 4-7 The Child_Chapters.txt"
-SEG3v "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_MenuPage1.bmp"
-SEG3vidmode LB
-SEG3s1 "C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\TEMP\star trek Phase 2_0_Menu.sst"
-SEG3s1dmode WIDE_LB
-SEG3hlmnu "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_MenuPage1_Buttons.mnu"
-SEG3hlcsm "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_HighlightScheme.csm
-hcn "C:\Users\MRWIZA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\star trek Phase 2_0_BatchMux.hcn"
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<3/22/2013 8:27:53 PM>
CHECK DVD SIZE
DVD Folder (actual) Size: 4995.1 MB
vs Estimated Size: 5021 MB -> 0.5% undersize
vs Assets Size: 4904 MB -> OK
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<3/22/2013 8:27:53 PM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: C:\Users\Mr Wizard\Videos\star trek Phase 2_0 (4995.1 MB)
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<3/22/2013 8:27:53 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.6.0
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[davexnet]

@dave

thanks for the interesting test.

BTW the issue should not be coming from AviSynth (DSS) because if you use HCenc instead of QuEnc, fps=24 is preserved. I still have to test FFmpeg fed by AviSynth.



Bye

I understand what you're saying. I suspect there must be a small bug in Quenc; I found a post from
2006 in which neuron2 reported this very same problem,. Unfortunately, it wasn't followed up.

cheers -
Dave

[_MrC_]

I understand what you're saying. I suspect there must be a small bug in Quenc; I found a post from
2006 in which neuron2 reported this very same problem,. Unfortunately, it wasn't followed up.

It's really time to drop QuEnc, even if it has been a wonderful piece of software. Another good reason is that QuEnc does not have great efficiency in multi thread encoding: on 4 cores systems HCenc 2-pass can be even faster than QuEnc 1-pass.

On a side note, FFmpeg CBR 1-pass fed by AviSynth does not show the 24->23.976 conversion issue.

<24/03/2013 11:34:53>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: FFmpeg CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 71 MB
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "I:\AVStoDVD\Temp\DVD_4_video_1.avs" -threads 4 -aspect 16:9 -c:v mpeg2video -b:v 4000k -minrate 4000k -maxrate 4000k -dc 8 -y "I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v"
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<24/03/2013 11:35:07>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Video Source Filter: A2DSource (DirectShowSource)
Created File: I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v (71,4 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1,778 - 24 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 2:29 minutes - 3596 frames
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<24/03/2013 11:35:07>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v" -srcfps 24.000 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -tff
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<24/03/2013 11:35:08>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v (71,4 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1,778 - 23,976 fps (CFR) - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 2:29 minutes - 3592 frames
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Bye

[davexnet]

I understand what you're saying. I suspect there must be a small bug in Quenc; I found a post from
2006 in which neuron2 reported this very same problem,. Unfortunately, it wasn't followed up.

It's really time to drop QuEnc, even if it has been a wonderful piece of software. Another good reason is that QuEnc does not have great efficiency in multi thread encoding: on 4 cores systems HCenc 2-pass can be even faster than QuEnc 1-pass.

On a side note, FFmpeg CBR 1-pass fed by AviSynth does not show the 24->23.976 conversion issue.

<24/03/2013 11:34:53>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: FFmpeg CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 71 MB
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "I:\AVStoDVD\Temp\DVD_4_video_1.avs" -threads 4 -aspect 16:9 -c:v mpeg2video -b:v 4000k -minrate 4000k -maxrate 4000k -dc 8 -y "I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v"
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<24/03/2013 11:35:07>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Video Source Filter: A2DSource (DirectShowSource)
Created File: I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v (71,4 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1,778 - 24 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 2:29 minutes - 3596 frames
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<24/03/2013 11:35:07>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v" -srcfps 24.000 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -tff
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<24/03/2013 11:35:08>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: I:\AVStoDVD\Assets\DVD_4_video.m2v (71,4 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4000 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1,778 - 23,976 fps (CFR) - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 2:29 minutes - 3592 frames
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Bye

I don't think that bug in QUEnc would be found unless you were to run it under the debugger to see precisely
what was going on. Although I have had problems with DSS before. I remember a case where coding the fps
did not behave as you expected. Perhaps as a quick fix you could drop the
fps parameter from DSS ? I'm not sure what you've experienced, but in my mind, FFmpegsource
is more reliable and frame accurate compared to DSS - at least for mkv/mp4/AVC.

Quite often when encoding 2-pass in HCenc, during the second pass HCenc will report
"small source mismatch" - this is due to inaccuracy of DSS not serving the exact same frames it served
in the first pass. This problem is completely eliminated if you use FFmpegsource.

However, FFmpegsource has some issues with certain audio - perhaps you could could come up with a system
in the Avisynth tab to allow a choice of source filter for video and audio separately ?
I've found FFmpegsource and DSS audio used in the script to work well.

As you mentioned , it works fine as-is in FFmpeg, HCenc and just about any other encoder tried so far.

I wonder if it were possible to get a message to the author of QUenc?

Cheers -
Dave (apologize for the brain dump)

[_MrC_]

I have added the fps parameter long ago to fix some issues in detecing fps by DSS for some kind of video streams (such as WMV or ASF, with VFR). I would prefer to leave it and drop QuEnc which, frankly speaking nowadays it does not give more feats/quality than latest FFmpeg releases.

There is an old QuEnc support thread on Doom9, but the last author (dragongodz) is silent since 2010.

Good idea to split the AVS Source Filters for Video and Audio. Will do.



Bye

[davexnet]

Thanks MrC,
look forward to trying the new version.

Dave

[sieve]

I keep getting this error:

avstodvd avisynth open failure: ffaudiosource: no audio track found

and it references a specific line in the .avs file

I'm confused, because the video track I selected did have an attached audio track???

Any help/advice is appreciated

log:
'18:41:47' AVStoDVD Release 2.6.0 loaded!
'18:41:47' AviSynth 2.5.8 is installed ("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth 2.5").
'18:41:47' ffdshow 1.2.4422 32bit is installed ("C:\Program Files (x86)\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax").
'18:41:47' ImgBurn 2.5.7 is installed ("C:\Program Files (x86)\ImgBurn\ImgBurn.exe").
'18:41:47' New AVStoDVD Project started!
'18:42:17' MediaInfoLib - v0.7.61 initialized.
'18:42:17' Title 1 "D:\DELICACY\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts" added.
'18:42:32' Subs "D:\DELICACY\2_4_subtitle.sup" added to Title 1.
'18:42:40' DVD Output Setup changed from 'DVD Folder' to 'ISO UDF Image'
'18:42:58' AVStoDVD Project started.
'18:42:58' Title 1 video encoding operations started.
'18:59:07' Process aborted during Title 1 VIDEO encoding operations.
'18:59:07' Check log file <C:\Users\ASUS\Videos\DVD_0.log> for more info.

which is here.....

<4/3/2013 6:42:58 PM>
START PROCESS
<>

<4/3/2013 6:42:58 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 1417/4450 MB (32%)
DVD Output Setup: ISO UDF Image
DVD Label: DVD
DVD Menu: No Menu
Output Folder: C:\Users\ASUS\Videos
Delete Temp Assets Files: Yes
Delete Temp Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

PREFERENCES

MultiThread: 1
AVS Source Filter: A2DSource
AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Lanczos4Resize/Spline16Resize
Frame Adjust Strategy: 1
PAL SpeedUp: 0
Video Resolution: 0
Video BitRate Min: 2500
Video BitRate Level 1: 6500
Video Profile Level 2: 4500
Video BitRate Max: 8500
Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
DVD Audio Format: 0
DVD Audio BitRate: 192
Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 1
Normalize Audio: 0
Auto Delay Audio: 1
DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Font: Tahoma 18pt (255,255,255)
Chapters Interval: 5
Use Source Chapters: 1
DVD Burning Drive: E:\
DVD Burning Speed: 4x
Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
Save Log file: 1
Unload ActiveMovie library: 0
Adjust ffdshow at runtime: 1
Save General Settings: 0
<>

<4/3/2013 6:42:58 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\DELICACY\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
Info: AVC - 33605 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 1.818 - 25 fps (CFR) - Interlaced (TFF) - 22:34 minutes - 33851 frames
Audio 1: D:\DELICACY\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
Info: PCM - 1536 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 22:34 minutes (0 ms delay) - Internal
Subs 1: D:\DELICACY\2_4_subtitle.sup
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.61]
<>

<4/3/2013 6:42:58 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Users\ASUS\Downloads\AVStoDVD_260_NoIns tall\AVStoDVD_260_NoInstall\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\ASUS\Downloads\AVStoDVD_260_N oInstall\AVStoDVD_260_NoInstall\Lib\LeakKernelDein t.dll")

Video = A2DVideoSource("D:\DELICACY\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts ", CacheFolder="C:\Users\ASUS\AppData\Local\Temp", FrameRate=25, VFR=false)
Audio = A2DAudioSource("D:\DELICACY\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts ", CacheFolder="C:\Users\ASUS\AppData\Local\Temp")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12(interlaced=true)
Video = Video.LeakKernelBob(1,7,false,false)
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,6,0,6)
Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,480)
Video = Video.SeparateFields().SelectEvery(4,1,2).Weave()
#Using DGPulldown/HCenc to upsize FPS

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
<>

<4/3/2013 6:42:58 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 1372 MB
Encoding Parameters: -i "C:\Users\ASUS\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_00005_1.av s" -o "C:\Users\ASUS\Videos\DVD_0_00005.m2v" -b 8500 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 16:9 -interlaced -tff -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
<>

<4/3/2013 6:59:09 PM>
CHECK LOG FILE <C:\USERS\ASUS\VIDEOS\DVD_0.LOG> FOR MORE INFO.
<>

<4/3/2013 6:59:09 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.6.0
<>

[theewizard]

Audio 1: D:\DELICACY\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
Info: PCM - 1536 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 22:34 minutes (0 ms delay) - Internal
Subs 1: D:\DELICACY\2_4_subtitle.sup

Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1

i'm confused
were you trying to keep the PCm audio to use in the DVD
will PAL format allow PCM audio ?

to me that looks like the error that caused the problem

[sieve]

Audio 1: D:\DELICACY\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
Info: PCM - 1536 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 22:34 minutes (0 ms delay) - Internal
Subs 1: D:\DELICACY\2_4_subtitle.sup

Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1

i'm confused
were you trying to keep the PCm audio to use in the DVD
will PAL format allow PCM audio ?

to me that looks like the error that caused the problem

I'm confused also...
I know a little about AV conversion, but apparently not enough. Especially when changing formats. I've never used this program before.
Background:
I'm in the U.S. I have a UK BD with a chapter that is formatted as PAL 25fps 576i and a French audio track.
I want to convert it to something that will play on a U.S. BD/DVD player, so I need to change it to NTSC.

I thought that was what I was doing, but I must have some settings wrong.

[davexnet]

Do these m2TS files play back in WMP? Not sure why AVStoDVD would be using ffmpegsource2,
unless directshowsource was not available.

[Seeker47]

I'm confused also...
I know a little about AV conversion, but apparently not enough. Especially when changing formats. I've never used this program before.
Background:
I'm in the U.S. I have a UK BD with a chapter that is formatted as PAL 25fps 576i and a French audio track.
I want to convert it to something that will play on a U.S. BD/DVD player, so I need to change it to NTSC.

I wind up going through quite a bit of PAL material -- stuff that just isn't available here, and may never be. So, I get the question a lot from AVStoDVD: this looks like a PAL framerate, it would probably look much better as PAL (I'm paraphrasing here . . . ), 'Do You Still Want to Make the Disc as NTSC' ? Sometimes I answer that one way, sometimes the other. I know that the overall bitrate is likely to show as being lower, if I opt for PAL. I could probably run some tests myself, but I'm just wondering: has anyone done any detailed PQ tests on this, to see which choice really comes out looking better, in that situation ?

It's really kind of academic for me, since I can play any sort of PAL disc here.

[davexnet]

I'm confused also...
I know a little about AV conversion, but apparently not enough. Especially when changing formats. I've never used this program before.
Background:
I'm in the U.S. I have a UK BD with a chapter that is formatted as PAL 25fps 576i and a French audio track.
I want to convert it to something that will play on a U.S. BD/DVD player, so I need to change it to NTSC.

I wind up going through quite a bit of PAL material -- stuff that just isn't available here, and may never be. So, I get the question a lot from AVStoDVD: this looks like a PAL framerate, it would probably look much better as PAL (I'm paraphrasing here . . . ), 'Do You Still Want to Make the Disc as NTSC' ? Sometimes I answer that one way, sometimes the other. I know that the overall bitrate is likely to show as being lower, if I opt for PAL. I could probably run some tests myself, but I'm just wondering: has anyone done any detailed PQ tests on this, to see which choice really comes out looking better, in that situation ?

It's really kind of academic for me, since I can play any sort of PAL disc here.

Presumably the quantizer would be a little higher for PAL, assuming the same bitrate.
I guess you could always check the HCenc log.

[_MrC_]

@sieve

it seems you have some issues in either splitting M2TS and/or decoding the PCM audio stream. Be sure you have installed Haali Media Splitter and a good directshow codecs suite like ffdshow.

If you still have problems, then use the 'Codecs'/'Build DirectShow Filters Graph' option and post here the resulting screenshot of GraphStudio.



Bye

[sieve]

Do these m2TS files play back in WMP? Not sure why AVStoDVD would be using ffmpegsource2,
unless directshowsource was not available.

1. Not sure. I can check.
2. I know these are different, but to be honest, I don't know much about them beyond that.


@seeker47

I don't have a region unlocked player and it won't play PAL

it seems you have some issues in either splitting M2TS and/or decoding the PCM audio stream. Be sure you have installed Haali Media Splitter and a good directshow codecs suite like ffdshow.

I use BD rebuilder all the time and have the latest versions of Haali and ffdshow.

If you still have problems, then use the 'Codecs'/'Build DirectShow Filters Graph' option and post here the resulting screenshot of GraphStudio.

I'll give that a try

[sieve]

Do these m2TS files play back in WMP?

Video yes. No audio. ??

[sieve]

graph attached

[sieve]

again...