The unfortunate reality is that things like this go in cycles. The two limits are defined by human greed on one end and human desperation on the other. When many of the mills, factories etc. were first established, people badly needed the jobs and were happy to work for low wages. But as things prospered, greed took over. People demanded more and more money, perks, benefits, pensions and on and on the money grab continued. The corrective consequence of all of this was inevitable. So after these avaricious workers finish killing the company that feeds them, they lose their job. That's just the way it goes.
Utopia aside, it just isn't possible to endlessly increase wages and benefits without ultimately rendering a company hopelessly non competitive. The ultimate dues for this is either the company is forced to shut down --- or move its factory somewhere else where the labor force will work for much less money. This problem is made even worse when government wants to tax the business heavily. There's no magic here. If the market price for a widget is $50 and that widget has three hours of labor to make it, it stands to reason if the labor cost due to high wages is $75, the company has a fundamental problem. $75 in labor cost for a $50 widget doesn't pencil out very well! On the other hand, if the labor cost is $10, the business can continue to operate.
Unfortunately some people's eyes are blinded by social and political agendas and they can't, or don't want to see this. After all, if they "see" this, they might not get elected next time ---- the social candidate the workers vote for are those that want to "give" them a bunch of stuff.
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Originally Posted by ozymango
The US has a 35% corporate income tax and many states and cities levy their own corporate taxes.
Combined these deterrants drive business offshore.
The envirionmental concerns real or imagined are superimposed on top of these realities.
Of course there are differences of opinion on how important any environmental issue is, but there are practitioners of an environmental religion who are engaged in jihad against growth, increased standards of living and employment in the USA. They often lack the intellectual honesty and ability to make a judgment as to what is a reasonable cost in every way.
Originally Posted by oldandinthe way
As for "increased standards of living in the USA," I'm guessing by that you mean more equitable standards of living for all, not necessarily increasing growth for the sake of growth. The US per capita consumption of goods and raw materials, compared to other countries -- even countries with pretty decent "standards of living" -- is rather impressive. You can see just how impressive at: http://atlas.aaas.org/index.php?part=2
And as for how to judge "reasonable cost" ... I'm not of the view that the majority of any group of people really has a good understanding of systems theory and what the costs are for a lot of things in this world.
Originally Posted by träskmannen
I'll see if I can dig it up, I think it's in a magazine rack here somewhere...
--dES"You can observe a lot by watching." - Yogi Bera
I live in a county that has few jobs for high school let alone college grads other than servicing retirees. Yet they still obstruct any light industrial projects (e.g. electronics or mining) on traffic concerns. Schools are closing as elderly boomers move in.
Originally Posted by edDV
The enviornmentally simpleminded are conquering the nation. Its too big, its too dirty, its unnatural, its wasteful.
With a little luck they'll reintroduce the wolf to your county, make the coyote a protected species, and use all of the corn which feeds cattle to make auto fuel (solving both the Cow emissions problem and reducing our dependance on foreign oil).
Your standard of living will fall to the levels our European role models experience, and then plummet to sub-saharan african levels. But don't worry, the earth will be clean and pure.
And those who bring us these blessings will legalize medical marijuana and diagnose your problem as depression so that you will be able to get high and enjoy the new state of the earth.
As for schools closing, it might not be a loss if your schools fail to educate like the schools in many areas. All too many schools award a diploma without conveying how to reason. The brightest young poeple I meet are home schooled. As a product of big city public schools in an earlier time it brings despair to see how little information is conveyed in today's schools, and how absent critical thought is.
This thread has serverd it purpose.