Quicktime Alternative no longer has MPEG2 decoder for Streamclip use?

[vidvoo]

My favourite video cutting program is MPEG_Streamclip which relies on Quicktime Pro or Quicktime alternative for an MPEG decoder if wanting to play or edit MPEG video. I have just loaded the latest versions of Streamclip (1.2b2) and QT alternative (1.9) on to my new vista laptop and am finding that there no longer seems to be an MPEG option with Quicktime alternative. On searching the web I came across one vague statement that they were "forced to remove the MPEG decoder".

Does anybody know if this is truly the case and if so, how far back in the QT alternative versions I have to go to find one that has the MPEG decoder included. I would prefer not to have to purchase QT pro.

[Placio74]

QTA 1.81 - registered Pro version with additional features (it's illegal of course).

Please try Avidemux.

[vidvoo]

Thanks Placio,
Version 1.81 works with Streamclip. I can now edit the MPEG2 files from my tuner card and the MPEG TS files from my Toppy PVR. I'll give Avidemux a go a bit later.

[abrogard]

Where can I find version 1.81 ?

Avidemux is an mpeg editor?

[vidvoo]

Hi Abrogard, you can find it on the site www.filehippo.com Do a search once you get there. I'm not sure about Avidemux. Still havn't had a chance to check it out... but thanks for reminding me. Don't forget to uninstall Quicktime before putting Quicktime alternative on. They can't both co-exist I think.

[abrogard]

Thanks for that. I dashed straight over there and got it. Excellent site. Thanks again.

While I'm here in such helpful company I might ask if anyone has any idea why two 'parameter-wise' mpg files play differently - one with smooth video and one with jerky frames, like vibrating ?

What I mean by 'parameter-wise', I guess you know, is that they were produced exactly the same way, have all the same parameters but are different movies.

For anyone interested they were produced this way: The avi was fed into virtualdub and the brightening filter invoked. Then the frameserver started and frames served to TMPGPro which made an mpg from each.

Neither has a picture in winamp, just sound. Both play with both video and sound in Nero and Media Player Classic but the first one plays with 'vibrating' video.

GSpot says they have these parameters: DVDVOB. MP2Prog. 10080 kbs AC3 sound. Video MPEG2 Codec NOT installed. pic: 23.97, fps 2997, fld/s 59.93 Src: 4:3 NTSC 4:3 DVD

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[vidvoo]

Hi again. I'm not a complete expert so you might be best to post your question in a new thread on this forum. That said, i'll describe what I think may be going on.

First i'm wondering if the two AVI's, when made, were encoded the same way and from the same type of video file. Would these AVI's started their lives as NTSC DVD's? Maybe one started out as PAL or even film as I mention below.

From looking at the Gspot results you posted there seems to be a frame mismatch between "film style" 24 frames per second and 30 frame per second NTSC (60 fields per second). It is possible that you are seeing 'beating' caused bu a mismatch of these two frame rates. If this is what is occuring the pulsing you see would look quite fast as it would be happening at 6 times every second (30-24). There are special procedures on the net for converting between those two frame rates. You may have to hunt for them to find how to do the conversion properly.

Otherwise, if your goal is to put them onto DVD, you might want to give these free programs a go...

DVD Flick www.dvdflick.net
or
AVI2DVD www.trustfm.net

They may do the job for you. Also try the media player VLC. It seems to handle most things you throw at it.

Don't forget to start a new thread if you have more questions as people may not come across your questions here on an old thread.

Vidvoo

[abrogard]

Well thanks for that. I think you've hit the nail on the head with the frame rates - but why does it happen only on one? But I take your point about the new thread and I'll go and do that.

I'll leave everything as it is for the moderator to deal with but if you think I should I can backtrack and edit out my last posts and then perhaps they'll just disappear - I don't think I've got an actual 'delete' option.

regards,

ab

and thanks for all the advice

[vidvoo]

I wouldn't worry too much about that, It all makes interesting reading for someone. I just recommended starting a new post because you might get more people responding to it and able to help than just me because your question would be outlined in the heading of the post.

You may wish to search for and ask for advice on converting between those different frame rates. There are some methods out there to do that. I think Virtualdub may have some options to do that type of conversion, perhaps even TMPGPro. Those free programs I mentioned may help you convert to DVD in one step, you will just have to try them, although there is so many different formats around with AVI and DIVX that they might not work on everything.
cheers
Vidvoo