solved -edited menu wrong size in dvd player (pgcedit)

[spiritgumm]

I replaced the static background image of the main page of a menu with a BMP following manono's "easy way" directions (which seems to work fine, thanks, manono).
I needed to change the button locations, etc. and re-arranged them (in Group 1) in Pgcedit. It looks fine in the computer, and on the dvd player if it's set for "Wide screen." However, if the dvd player is set to Pan&Scan or Letter, it's oversized and screwed up. I realize now that this is the Pgcedit "Group 2" setting, and the buttons have to be rearrange as well, but the menu will still be oversized on the TV in those other player settings. Is there a way to have only "Group 1" played?
Another problem in Group 2 is the highlighting shapes for buttons (from the pre-existing menu) are there along with the box highlighting I chose; can they be eliminated?

FIGURED IT OUT. In pgcedit, clicked on the menu's "Domain Stream Attributes" and changed it's specs to the other menus (ie made only 4:3 checked). For whatever reason, the old button highlight is thankfully gone. Wish I knew how I did that.

[manono]

For the first question, the menu can be played in one of 2 ways depending on the kind of TV you're using, or more to the point, how you set up the DVD player for that TV set.

If it's a 16:9 menu, and the TV set is 16:9, and if the DVD player is set up to output to a widescreen TV set, then automatically the Wide menu (group 1) is the one played. And you should always keep the DVD player set up the same way. If it's a 4:3 TV set, then you set up the player to output to a 4:3 TV, and the player automatically chooses the LB (Letterbox)/P&S or group 2 menu to play.

All that is contigent on me understanding the problem correctly.

So, is there a way to only have group 1 played? Only if group 2 is identical to group 1. A 16:9 menu requires that there be 2 separate and distinct sets of menus. However, a Pan&Scan menu as the group 2 menu for a set of 16:9 menus is the same - same background image and same buttons. It's only the LB menu in group 2 which is different. Perhaps you have a Wide/P&S menu, but you set it up as Wide/LB. I'm not really sure. You can check in PGCEdit by rightclicking the menu and checking the Domain Stream Atributes.

If you want to make it a 4:3 menu, then there's only one group and it gets played for both kinds of TV sets. On a 16:9 set pillarbars are automatically added.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand the second question. I'm not even sure I understood the first question. Sorry, not much help.

Edit: I see that while I was fumbling around that you solved the problem yourself. Good.

[spiritgumm]

And you should always keep the DVD player set up the same way. If it's a 4:3 TV set, then you set up the player to output to a 4:3 TV, and the player automatically chooses the LB (Letterbox)/P&S

If a movie is just a thin strip of widescreen, I sometimes like to stretch it vertically by setting the dvd player to Letterbox (maybe I'm getting Wide and Letter reversed, but you know what I'm saying).
If I hadn't figured out the menu domain stream issue already, your mentioning it would have lead me to the solution, so I thank you anyway.

The other problem was the 4 original menu buttons. They were arranged in an arc, and the cursor that lights up (to let you know what button you're on) is a line above and below each image button. Each set of lines was differently curved to follow the arc pattern of the pictured buttons. After switching menu backgrounds, and test-playing it, the cursor for each button was still a set of curvy lines. My new background image has 4 square buttons on a higher, horizontal line, and when I moved the command button-areas up there (with Pgcedit), and sized them to the squares, they lit up appropriately.
I never "fixed" (eliminated) the old cursor lines. They're still located in the original positions, and only light up if a command button area overlaps them. It's because I moved the command buttons far away from those areas that they don't light up. It would be good to know how to eliminate them in case I ever want to have buttons in the same area.

[manono]

It would be good to know how to eliminate them in case I ever want to have buttons in the same area.

I'm not sure I understand, but editing the underlying subpic and replacing those leftover images that are no longer needed with whatever the background color for the subpic is should get rid of them entirely. The latest version of DVDSUbEdit allows you to extract and then later replace the subpics. Then you can do the editing yourself in between. You might play around with it. You can find it here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1053421#post1053421