TV Out Troubles.

[SE14man]

Hi there.
So wouldi need a new graphics card?
Because my highest resolution is 1024x768 and thats a 4:3 resolution isnt it?
So id need a graphics card with 16:9 resolutions on it?

Is there a way i could watch a 16:9 movie on the widescreen tv and have it in full screen with no aspect ratio on it at all!
On neither top or bottom, and not have it zoomed in and also not make it look all stretched (even tho its 16:9)? I'm talking about my card at the moment which seems to only support 4:3.

It's just with some movies its really annoying because on loud bitsl ike say music or a car crash or whatever its SO loud!
But on talking bits its so quiet i can barely hear it we have to keep turning the volume up and down and its so frustrating!

Any ideas?

Cheers!

[jagabo]

So wouldi need a new graphics card?
Because my highest resolution is 1024x768 and thats a 4:3 resolution isnt it?
So id need a graphics card with 16:9 resolutions on it?

Is there a way i could watch a 16:9 movie on the widescreen tv and have it in full screen with no aspect ratio on it at all!
On neither top or bottom, and not have it zoomed in and also not make it look all stretched (even tho its 16:9)? I'm talking about my card at the moment which seems to only support 4:3.

Try this: use a player that lets you overide the video's aspect ratio. You could then force the player to output a 16:9 video stretched to 4:3 full screen on the PC, then use the 16:9 setting on the TV to stretch the 4:3 picture from the TV back to 16:9 on the TV. But you'll have to adjust the player and TV to get the right aspect ratio whenever you switch between 4:3 and 16:9 videos.

Media Player Classic has this ability. Use View -> Video Frame -> Overide Aspect Ratio -> 4:3 while the 16:9 video is playing.

Since you are using the s-video/composite output from the MX-440 the max desktop resolution is 1024x768. Note that the desktop is downsampled to about 640x480 before it's sent over the s-video connection -- so small text will be unreadable. If your HDTV has a VGA input you will be much better off using that (and turn of the s-video output). You will then be able to use higher resolutions, probably even 16:9 resolutions if you have recent drivers. You could also use DVI if your TV has a DVI input, or a DVI-HDMI cable if your TV has an HDMI input. But I suspect the card doesn't have DVI out.

It's just with some movies its really annoying because on loud bitsl ike say music or a car crash or whatever its SO loud!
But on talking bits its so quiet i can barely hear it we have to keep turning the volume up and down and its so frustrating!

I think your AC3 decoder is misconfigured. It is probably set to output 5.1. But since you only have two speakers the center channel is going nowhere. Change your AC3 decoder to downmix to stereo. You may also have to adjust your audio properties in Windows via the Control Panel. Make sure it's set up to output stereo audio.

[SE14man]

Thanks mate ill get back to you about how i go with all this then.
Might have 2 get me Dad to read what u said n follow it cos i'm not very bright on all this!

You have been very helpful.

Thanks v much

[SE14man]

I have a connection on the back of the TV that says somehting like 'PC B-SUB or V-Sub or something!'
It looks like a socket you would find on the back of a computer that a monitor plugs into.

Does VLC have a feature to override the aspect ratio do you know?

So far i have a desktop with 4 black borderl ines round the edge.
TV set to 16:9 if i watch a video on there thats 16:9 it looks even more fat!
I wouldl ike to get it to take up the whole screen but include all the video (without it being zoomed) and for it to look non fat (stretched wide)
You say i do this in Media Player Classic?

Are there any other changes i would need to make to do this too?

Thanks mate

[jagabo]

I have a connection on the back of the TV that says somehting like 'PC B-SUB or V-Sub or something!'
It looks like a socket you would find on the back of a computer that a monitor plugs into.

Yes, it's a D-sub connector for VGA input -- a standard cable for connection a computer to a computer monitor. You may be able to use the cable from your old PC monitor. Some monitors don't let you remove the cable though.

Does VLC have a feature to override the aspect ratio do you know?

Yes. Once the video is playing select Video -> Aspect Ratio -> then the desired AR. You can also right click on the window and select Aspect Ratio -> etc.

So far i have a desktop with 4 black borderl ines round the edge.
TV set to 16:9 if i watch a video on there thats 16:9 it looks even more fat!
I wouldl ike to get it to take up the whole screen but include all the video (without it being zoomed) and for it to look non fat (stretched wide)
You say i do this in Media Player Classic?

Are there any other changes i would need to make to do this too?

Thanks mate :)

Go through your Display Properties dialogs and look for TV aspect ratio settings.

Actually, I suggest you stop wasting your time with the s-video/composite connection and switch to VGA. Your eyes will thank you for it. If you have to buy a cable it should only cost you about US$10. Unless you need a really long one.

[jagabo]

Oops, wrong thread.

[SE14man]

Very very gr8ful.
Ur the top man.

[SE14man]

OK mate i am now using a VGA cable.
It is acting like a computer monitor now.
I have sorted the resolutions.

There is a slight purple tint now on the pictures on movies i play.

I noticed using S-Video TV Out the quality was way, way better than using VGA, this isnt a problem i was just wondering the reason as to why movies played a lot better quality than they do using VGA?

Cheers.

[jagabo]

If you mean the video is now dark and drab adjust the graphics card's video overlay settings. Overlay usually have its own brigtness, contrast, hue, color, and gamma settings.

[SE14man]

Hi,

The settings are working fine.
VGA is fine.
I am now watching a 16:9 movie and its set to widescreen.
If i have aspect ratio as defualt on VLC i get the aspect ratio with the movie which makes the picture almost letter box!
But then if i change the aspect ratio to 16:9 on the aspect ratio settings (On VLC)
It makes everyone look narrow.

How do i sort this out?

Cheers.

[jagabo]

I am now watching a 16:9 movie and its set to widescreen.

A DVD? A Divx file? Something else?

If i have aspect ratio as defualt on VLC i get the aspect ratio with the movie which makes the picture almost letter box!
But then if i change the aspect ratio to 16:9 on the aspect ratio settings (On VLC)
It makes everyone look narrow.

VLC is very good about automatically adjusting for aspect ratio. You either have a bad source (with the wrong aspect ratio) or a system problem.

The settings are working fine.
VGA is fine.

Your AR problems with VLC might indicate otherwise. What is the native resolution of your HDTV? What resolution is your computer now running at? Still at 1024x768? Can you change it to your HDTV's native resolution? Or a close 16:9 resolution?

If you are forced to run the computer at 1024x768, VLC can correct for the aspect ratio. From VLC:

Select Settings -> Preferences. In the left hand panel select Video. If Advanced Options at the lower right hand corner isn't selected, select it. In the right hand panel scroll down to Monitor Pixel Aspect Ratio. Set the value to 1.33333. Save then restart VLC.

[SE14man]

Sorry the Screen is now using VGA and has successfully worked at 1284x768 i think!

So widescreen!
But i sitll find that with it on 16:9 movie (divx) on the 16:9 setting i get the aspect ratio on the movie and on the screen so it is letter box but if i change the aspect ratio on VLC to 16:9, yeah it takes up the whole screen with no divx aspect ratio but they do look narrow! (the people and objects)
Any ideas how i would sort this one out?

[jagabo]

i sitll find that with it on 16:9 movie (divx) on the 16:9 setting i get the aspect ratio on the movie and on the screen so it is letter box but if i change the aspect ratio on VLC to 16:9, yeah it takes up the whole screen with no divx aspect ratio but they do look narrow! (the people and objects)

I'm sorry, I don't understand exactly what you're describing.

What is the frame size of the video in question? Does the frame have black borders? What is the DAR (display aspect ratio) setting? You can get the frame size and DAR from GSpot. Open the video in VirtualDub to see if it has black borders.

Or just post a short clip and I'll take a look at it. If you do this, post a clip with something where the proper DAR is obvious -- say the tire of a car viewed directly from the side, a sphere, a famous actor's face, etc.

[SE14man]

The frame size of the video is:

640x256, 25, 000 FPS.
It was encoded with borders top and bottom, It's a 16:9 movie it has a 16:9 resolution.
But then so does the TV aswell which as you can imagine, makes the screen letter boxed size. I dont touch the TV setting ever. But what i did do (On VLC) was made the aspect ratio on there as 16:9, then i made the movie full screen and, yes it made it full screen (So it took off the movies aspect ratio) but then everyone was narrow! lol.

Any ideas?

[jagabo]

640x256 is much wider than 16:9, it's 22.5:9. If this is a square pixel encoding (which is most likely) it should have black bars top and bottom when viewed on a 16:9 screen.

If black bars are encoded into the frame then the actual active picture area is even wider than 22.5:9. I'm not aware of any movie that's wider than 22.5:9.

[SE14man]

Ah thanks very much mate!

Glad you told me that and it's not an issue with any software and hardware etc.

Btw thanks for all your help.

What did you mean by 'What a waste of time' I'm pretty sure i wasn't seeing things!

Mart.

[jagabo]

What did you mean by 'What a waste of time'

Spending all this time trying to fix your setup when there was nothing wrong.

[SE14man]

OK, In fairness to me, i didn't know anything about computers and this is a technical support forum, are you American or something? (Hence the stupid comment you left at the end)
I also know nothing about televisions, it was nice of you to educate me.
But to leave an arrogant comment like that at the end made me change my mind about you and think what an arrogant **** you truly are.

[mats.hogberg]

@SE14man - Calling someone, who's patiently helped you for days, "stupid" and "arrogant ****" isn't going to do you no good.
From the rules:

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material...

/Mats

[SE14man]

I do apologise for going against two of those rules.

Is it Ban or Another chance?

[mats.hogberg]

Is it Ban

You'd noticed, if that was my intention!

/Mats

[SE14man]

Ah!

Thank you for being so kind!

Sorry for the abuse as well

[jagabo]

I removed my original "waste of time" comment even before reading any of SE14man's responses. At the time I was exasperated at discovering we had spent the last 10 days working on a problem that wasn't really a problem. I apologize for any offence my comment caused.

[mats.hogberg]

Ah! Group Hug!

/Mats

[SE14man]

Sorry for my outragious uncalled for comment.

I know most forums would have banned me by now for saying thingsl ike that.

Thanks guys n sorry.