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    Can all 16X speed DVD burn at speed of 8X? I used to burn it with Memorex DVD and the maximum speed my DVD burner support is 8X and the 16X Memorex DVD burns at 8X, now I tried Office Depot Brand 16X DVD and the available speed is 2X and 4X, help.
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    what's the brand & model of your dvd burner? it would depend on whether or not the firmware on your dvd burner is capable of burning 16x spd.
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    Originally Posted by budz
    what's the brand & model of your dvd burner? it would depend on whether or not the firmware on your dvd burner is capable of burning 16x spd.
    I know for sure my DVD Burner cannot burn 16X because the max speed is 8X, my question is, can all 16X DVD burn at 8X with 8X DVD burner? Or only certain DVD? Because Memorex 16X DVD+R allows me to burn at 8X while Office Depot Brand only allows me to burn at 4X max.

    matshita dvd-ram uj-850s 7/1/2001, diver version 5.1.2535.0

    Do you know if this is related to driver being outdated? If so where can I get the latest driver for this device?
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    it would depend on the firmware supporting that particular media id which the OFFICE DEPOT brand can either be RITEK or RICOH media id. it's probably because your drive doesn't support the media id. you'd probably have to update your firmware on your drive. just because the MEMOREX media allows you to burn at 8x speed, it doesn't mean the OFFICE DEPOT brand will do the same. every manufacturer of dvd media uses different media id's.

    use discinfo to find out what firmware your drive has.
    http://hijacker.rpc1.com/discinfo/

    below is the latest firmware for your dvd burner.
    http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2315

    i would suggest you use better dvd media like VERBATIM & TAIYO YUDEN. MEMOREX & OFFICE DEPOT are considered crap media.
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    Originally Posted by budz
    it would depend on the firmware supporting that particular media id which the OFFICE DEPOT brand can either be RITEK or RICOH media id. it's probably because your drive doesn't support the media id. you'd probably have to update your firmware on your drive. just because the MEMOREX media allows you to burn at 8x speed, it doesn't mean the OFFICE DEPOT brand will do the same. every manufacturer of dvd media uses different media id's.

    use discinfo to find out what firmware your drive has.
    http://hijacker.rpc1.com/discinfo/

    below is the latest firmware for your dvd burner.
    http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2315

    i would suggest you use better dvd media like VERBATIM & TAIYO YUDEN. MEMOREX & OFFICE DEPOT are considered crap media.
    Great answer, now I get the idea of how it works, here is the detail I used from DVD Identifier:


    This is for Memorex 16X
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    Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:CMC MAG-M01-000]
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    Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
    Manufacturer Name : [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
    Manufacturer ID : [CMC MAG]
    Media Type ID : [M01]
    Product Revision : [Not Specified]
    Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
    Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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    This is for Office Depot 16X
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    Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:RITEK-F16-001]
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    Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
    Manufacturer Name : [Ritek Corp.]
    Manufacturer ID : [RITEK]
    Media Type ID : [F16]
    Product Revision : [001]
    Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
    Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Office Depot brand is Ritek and it's able to write at 8X so it must be my burner's problem of not identifying the media id.
    Is there any ways to hack it? Adding the id to the driver?

    http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1282536&postcount=90
    This guy burned it with his burner, can I copy those unique numbers on the bottom to my driver opening in notepad and save it, will that work?
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    Burn speed isn't driver related. The media id's and their supported burn speeds are stored in the firmware of the drive. If there isn't an updated firmware for your drive, then you should deal with the slower speeds, upgrade to a newer burner, or switch to a differernt media.
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    Originally Posted by gameroftheuk
    Can all 16X speed DVD burn at speed of 8X? I used to burn it with Memorex DVD and the maximum speed my DVD burner support is 8X and the 16X Memorex DVD burns at 8X, now I tried Office Depot Brand 16X DVD and the available speed is 2X and 4X, help.
    So basically what you are asking is:
    Will 16x media work in a 8x (max.) burner?
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    Originally Posted by hech54
    Originally Posted by gameroftheuk
    Can all 16X speed DVD burn at speed of 8X? I used to burn it with Memorex DVD and the maximum speed my DVD burner support is 8X and the 16X Memorex DVD burns at 8X, now I tried Office Depot Brand 16X DVD and the available speed is 2X and 4X, help.
    So basically what you are asking is:
    Will 16x media work in a 8x (max.) burner?
    No, I'm asking if all 16X DVD can be burned at 8X on 8X burner.
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    Matshita = Panasonic

    = No Firmware upgrades known to me.

    I've ran 3 Panny's and all did not upgrade firmware.

    All wrote at the posted maximum speed.

    All were pretty good readers, with the oldest being the best.

    I'd burn it at 8X - the Panny won't reject it.

    I believe there's something different (perhaps more basic) in their write
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    Originally Posted by gameroftheuk
    Originally Posted by hech54
    Originally Posted by gameroftheuk
    Can all 16X speed DVD burn at speed of 8X? I used to burn it with Memorex DVD and the maximum speed my DVD burner support is 8X and the 16X Memorex DVD burns at 8X, now I tried Office Depot Brand 16X DVD and the available speed is 2X and 4X, help.
    So basically what you are asking is:
    Will 16x media work in a 8x (max.) burner?
    No, I'm asking if all 16X DVD can be burned at 8X on 8X burner.
    That is what I just said.
    Your "terminology" is confusing an otherwise simple issue.
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    Originally Posted by gameroftheuk
    Can all 16X speed DVD burn at speed of 8X? I used to burn it with Memorex DVD and the maximum speed my DVD burner support is 8X and the 16X Memorex DVD burns at 8X, now I tried Office Depot Brand 16X DVD and the available speed is 2X and 4X, help.
    So basically what you are asking is:
    Will 16x media work in a 8x (max.) burner?
    No, I'm asking if all 16X DVD can be burned at 8X on 8X burner.
    Yes and as a matter fact will produce more accurate burns. As far as I have read anything past 8X isn't as long term reliable. Of course not too many people care about the DVD 10+ years later.
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    Bunk. Good media + good burner (with proper firmware support) and you will get just as accurate media as lower speeds.

    I'd just grab a new burner. You can get a new one over @ scan.co.uk for $15-20 GBP, including VAT. I like my Pioneer DVR-112, but LG, Samsung, Lite-On are all good and popular drives. I'd stay away from NEC (mine was crap and MANY people have had problems w/ 3550a's)...And Optiarc is trash unless something's changed recently (NEC/Sony drives).
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    Yes and as a matter fact will produce more accurate burns. As far as I have read anything past 8X isn't as long term reliable.
    That's not true with the newer dvd burners like SAMSUNG S203B discs burned at 12x-16x speeds are fine at playing back.
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    So there isn't any ways I can burn the Office Depot brand 16X DVD+R @8X speed?
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    http://ala42.cdfreaks.com/MCSE/

    Can I use this?
    I don't see your drive listed in the supported drives section - so the answer most likely is No. If you can't live with the burn speed then return the media for something it has a strategy for (ie: CMC MAG. M01). That should be available under the HP brand in the UK if I recall correctly.
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    I think I'm gonna get TDK DVD+R, can someone tell me if I can burn it at 8X for my burner? I have Matshita UJ-850S.
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    TDK is crappy media. Buy some VERBATIM dvd media. Or upgrade your dvd burner.
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    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8363415&st=dvd+burner&lp=7&type=product&...=1177717702793

    What do you guys think about this? If this can record the Office Depot brand DVD+R at 16X I'll be happy, plus this is 20X burner
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    why do you wanna continue using crappy OFFICE DEPOT dvd media? buying a 20x dvd burner is fine and dandy but use good quality dvd media like VERBATIM & TAIYO YUDEN. if you don't care about using good quality dvd media then continue to use crap media. over a period of time the dye on the crap media will deteriorate to where the disc can no longer be read back correctly or even played. so in other words don't be using it for important data or movies you cherish.
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