VHS to DV to DVD, Macroblocks on final DVD

[FulciLives]

Nice results, Fulcilives!

Did you deinterlace first before applying the filter?

I used the VirtualDub version and did the following:



I then saved it to an AVI file (uncompressed RGB) then did an AviSynth script for the ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) command as I then opened and encoded the AVS in CCE SP.

I just realized that I didn't set the Neat Video settings as well as I could have ... played around with it some more ... looks better now ... just as clean but perhaps a bit less of a loss of detail.

Anyways I'm new to this Neat Video ... need to learn more about it and how to use it etc.

Comes with a long manual I haven't read in-depth yet.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[hysteriah]

Maybe a dumb question... But what's the reason for those deinterlace filters before and after the neat video filter?

[jagabo]

Maybe a dumb question... But what's the reason for those deinterlace filters before and after the neat video filter?

He was probably using an older version of Neat Video that didn't support interlaced video. So he unfolded the fields, filtered, then folded the fields back together. Newer versions of Neat Video support interlaced video so you wouldn't need to do that.

[SatStorm]

This sample is from MTV Europe from 1990 I guess. I have plenty VHS tapes my self from that era.

Neat Video is not magic. More filters before neat video help even more.

Add the following filters:

rmPAL (http://www.barzgaran.de/files/rmpal1.zip)

Progressive Frame Restore (http://www.geocities.com/siwalters_uk/autodint.html)

Video DeNoise 2.0 (http://www.risingresearch.com/en/denoise)

Then, you can use neat video.
If you can't afford Neat Video then you need

MSU_Denoise (www.compression.ru/video/denoising/index_en.html)

And Dynamic Noise Reduction (last and only on a small value, like 2 or 3 - the default is 12 FAR MUCH).

Dynamic Noise Reduction is good after Neat Video too.

[hysteriah]

ok... Nice filter list SatStorm
It's one of those horrible tapes recorded from MTV europe at the early 90's, yes, SatStorm.. I have quite many of them myself

I wonder... does any of these filters come as a plugin to Adobe Premiere? Or just Virtual Dub? I would really like getting a good noise reduction filter to Premiere so I can output and preview the video with filter setting on my TV conncted throug firewire. I guess that's the best way to get a good impression of how the final DVD wil look like when played back on a TV.

Does any of you guys know of a really good filter for cleaning VHS noise in Premiere?

[Delerious]

Neat Video works with Premiere (and Premiere Elements).

[hysteriah]

Yes I know that... so that's the one I'm most interested in

But... will I need the 16-bit version (Pro version) or will the 8-bit (Home version) be good enough in my case? What's the differences between the 8-bit and the 16-bit version?

[jagabo]

8 bit home version should be enough unless you need frame sizes larger than 720x576.

[hysteriah]

Thanks jagabo